What exactly is Vegeta's new Super Saiyan Blue?

[Yuji]

Super Saiyan Blue Evolved, or SSB 2, or whatever you want to call it. Now that Vegeta seems to be getting a new, presumably different power-up from the Blue line, it's a good time to discuss the form he used throughout the Tournament of Power and Moro arcs.

Between its different designs in the anime and the manga, and the frankly sudden way in which it was introduced, not to mention its absence from the Broly movie, it's a very confusing form. Before the Moro arc, I wasn't expecting to see it again, but it looks like it's here to stay. In the anime, it looks like a Grade 2 version of SSB, whereas in the manga it's just SSB with a fiery new aura and darker (?) hair.

In the anime, Vegeta achieves the form after reminiscing about his promise to Cabba. In the manga, the form comes into existence after Vegeta vows to find his own unique path away from Goku's Ultra Instinct. Emotional resonance aside, why did these moments trigger a new transformation? In the anime, Blue was never hinted at as having upper levels, and in the manga Blue was essentially stated to have been completed/perfected already. It is especially head-scratching in the manga, where the basis of power was controlling one's Ki and avoiding leakage (this is the principle behind CSSB and it seems like ultra instinct also follows the same principle), yet Vegeta's form boasts a flashy fiery aura that seems to go against this principle. Thematically, it fits with the idea that he's finding his own path away from Whis' teachings, but as an evolution of Blue itself, it doesn't fit in well with how the form worked and was improved on previously. One could reasonably ask why Goku didn't achieve the same form when he powered up, breaking his body, to fight Jiren.

What are your thoughts?

[pepd]

I just see it as a wink to anime, and its in-universe acknowledgement as a way to unify anime and manga versions (the anime had just ended and anime fans started reading the manga), and don't give it in-universe importance.
That said, when I tried to give it sense, this is what I came up with: pSSB holds the ki inside, allowing to maintain and use its power, but also difficulting powering up more. SSBe allows frustrated Vegeta to power up beyond that by keeping the ki around instead of strictly inside, or resulting in non-leaking aura.

[Koitsukai]

Regarding the anime, I thought it was like the grades from the Cell arc, something sort of unrealiable or "incomplete", bulkier forms tend to be less effective, after all. Only here it kinda worked. With how the anime treated SSB, it didn't look out of place, Vegeta just found more power from within, relying on his frustration.

In the manga, I don't know, there isn't enough physical change to even distinguish it from SSB, except for the aura, which contradicts how SSB works. Does it mean that the form can also be improved if the aura is kept within? is a Perfected Evolved Blue possible? I think it is a nod to the anime, it had no explanation like at all, but the form stuck, Geets is still using it. I'm lost, to be honest.

[theherodjl]

Vegeta's always been about unlocking greater Saiyan power so SSJBE is just more of the same. Goku failed to achieve this form because he doesn't rely on his Saiyan heritage to surpass his limits anymore.
There are two methods of obtaining strength here; the way of the martial artist and the path of the Saiyan warrior. Vegeta said he's going to improve in his own way over what Goku did with UI so that's what he's going for.

[ankokudaishogun]

Blue Evolution is just Blue Grade-2: Vegeta finding a way to push more power through the transformation.

Which is nothing different from Blue Kaiohken in the anime and the Psuedo Kaiohken in the manga, except Goku did rely on his martial techniques for this, while Vegeta did rely on his innate Saiyan abilities.

[Hugo Boss]

It’s probably the final step of Super Saiyan evolution line, which Gohan and Goku seem to have abandoned in favor of their own exclusive forms. Who knows if it can be upgraded even further or if Vegeta will abandon Super Saiyan as well and deviate to God of Destruction techniques or integrate them all together.

[TheSaiyanGod]

I think it is easier if you simply classify that form as a powered up variation of the SSB in both anime and manga. In the same way that SSJ2 and 3 are variations of SSJ.

I don't like to label this form as '' grade 2 '' because the only thing that is similar is the increase in muscles (anime version) and unlike grade 2, SSBE is not said to have a large expenditure of energy and there is more visual changes in comparison (hair color, aura, pupils)

[Steven Bloodriver]

Super Saiyan Blue Evolved, or SSB 2, or whatever you want to call it. Now that Vegeta seems to be getting a new, presumably different power-up from the Blue line, it's a good time to discuss the form he used throughout the Tournament of Power and Moro arcs.

Between its different designs in the anime and the manga, and the frankly sudden way in which it was introduced, not to mention its absence from the Broly movie, it's a very confusing form. Before the Moro arc, I wasn't expecting to see it again, but it looks like it's here to stay. In the anime, it looks like a Grade 2 version of SSB, whereas in the manga it's just SSB with a fiery new aura and darker (?) hair.

In the anime, Vegeta achieves the form after reminiscing about his promise to Cabba. In the manga, the form comes into existence after Vegeta vows to find his own unique path away from Goku's Ultra Instinct. Emotional resonance aside, why did these moments trigger a new transformation? In the anime, Blue was never hinted at as having upper levels, and in the manga Blue was essentially stated to have been completed/perfected already. It is especially head-scratching in the manga, where the basis of power was controlling one's Ki and avoiding leakage (this is the principle behind CSSB and it seems like ultra instinct also follows the same principle), yet Vegeta's form boasts a flashy fiery aura that seems to go against this principle. Thematically, it fits with the idea that he's finding his own path away from Whis' teachings, but as an evolution of Blue itself, it doesn't fit in well with how the form worked and was improved on previously. One could reasonably ask why Goku didn't achieve the same form when he powered up, breaking his body, to fight Jiren.

What are your thoughts?

I think that the combination of Ultra Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan God is what makes up Super Saiyan Blue: Evolution, as I think that Perfected Super Saiyan Blue is born from the combination of Ascended Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan God.

[ZodiacBeast]

I feel like it's the same as "Super Vegeta", just with god ki.