"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Grand Marshal 1]

Ryokutya Chapter 70 impressions

!?
Easy. That's fine (sweat)
It's amazing, Axolotl

The explanation for the number one in the universe is interesting.
That's right
I lost rags

Vegeta, you're in the realm of the god of destruction if it's a super close combat, right? lol

Oh...Poor Vegeta


If what Ryokutya says is accurate, then Granolah is going to destroy him. Granolah is proficient in Sniping so he’s especially good with Long range Combat. This doesn’t bode well for the Prince.

LOL called it in the Strength thread. Vegeta will get decimated by Granolah. I expect him to master hakai by the end of the arc, but it won't matter much if he can't fight his opponent. As for Goku, maybe Granolah will push him to the new tier of completed Instinct, when he will win.

[SupremeKai25]

Vegeta will get demolished by the main antagonist?

Wait... WHAT? No, that can't be right...



Remember, when there's a new arc around the corner, you can always bet on Vegeta getting murdered by the main antagonist.

[Xeogran]

Remember, when there's a new arc around the corner, you can always bet on Vegeta getting murdered by the main antagonist.

And then he gets the "Support" role when the antagonist has their last stand
Granolah as a villain fits him thematically so this time he better deal the final blow (though we're still quite a few years away from that)

[GodVegetto91]

I'm not understand any single word from Ryokutya. Never.

“I’m not understand” isn’t proper english either.

It should be: “I’m not understanding a single word from Ryokutya, EVER.”

[GodVegetto91]

Ryokutya Chapter 70 impressions

!?
Easy. That's fine (sweat)
It's amazing, Axolotl

The explanation for the number one in the universe is interesting.
That's right
I lost rags

Vegeta, you're in the realm of the god of destruction if it's a super close combat, right? lol

Oh...Poor Vegeta


If what Ryokutya says is accurate, then Granolah is going to destroy him. Granolah is proficient in Sniping so he’s especially good with Long range Combat. This doesn’t bode well for the Prince.

How did you come to THAT conclusion???!

[SupremeKai25]

Remember, when there's a new arc around the corner, you can always bet on Vegeta getting murdered by the main antagonist.

And then he gets the "Support" role when the antagonist has their last stand
Granolah as a villain fits him thematically so this time he better deal the final blow (though we're still quite a few years away from that)

If we're talking about story connections and themes, then he should have gotten the final kill on Black, who murdered Vegeta's wife, ruined the life of Vegeta's son, and seized the body of Vegeta's best friend. Yet that never happened, though to be fair no one really defeated Black (since he stopped existing once he fused).

[Kinokima]

Remember, when there's a new arc around the corner, you can always bet on Vegeta getting murdered by the main antagonist.

And then he gets the "Support" role when the antagonist has their last stand
Granolah as a villain fits him thematically so this time he better deal the final blow (though we're still quite a few years away from that)

I doubt Vegeta will land the final blow but people exaggerate about Vegeta getting beat down especially in Super. He does better then most other characters besides Goku the main character.

The Meme is really dumb too it acts like the only purpose of a character is beating the main villain.

Also not really sure where people are getting Vegeta will get beat down by Granolah from Ryokutya’s spoilers. I am sure at some point he will but I am not getting that from this specific spoiler.

[DiscountDabi]

Ryokutya Chapter 70 impressions

Oh...Poor Vegeta


If what Ryokutya says is accurate, then Granolah is going to destroy him. Granolah is proficient in Sniping so he’s especially good with Long range Combat. This doesn’t bode well for the Prince.

How did you come to THAT conclusion???!

Because he said Vegeta is strong as long as its Close Combat and Granolah Specializes in Long Range Combat. Seems like an obvious connection to me.

[Kinokima]

Also not sure where people would think it would be Granolah vs Vegeta as the final fight either. I think it is obviously being set up as Goku’s UI against Granolah’s sniping. That makes more sense and Goku still has a connection to Granolah too through Bardock.

Maybe Vegeta will get to fight another character this time.

[GodVegetto91]

Oh...Poor Vegeta


If what Ryokutya says is accurate, then Granolah is going to destroy him. Granolah is proficient in Sniping so he’s especially good with Long range Combat. This doesn’t bode well for the Prince.

How did you come to THAT conclusion???!

Because he said Vegeta is strong as long as its Close Combat and Granolah Specializes in Long Range Combat. Seems like an obvious connection to me.

We don’t even know who Vegeta is fighting against even.. It could be Beerus (though I strongly doubt it as he’s literally in another dimension from Vegeta), or... UI Goku!

I think they’re training/sparring together and it’s a close match! But we’ll see..

[Koitsukai]

But what fight happens with people so far from each other? can't Vegeta get closer? it sounds like Vegeta would be fucked only if Granola is sniping him from afar like if he was hired to kill him or something, but if they ever meet each other, how far would they need to be for Vegeta to not be able to hakai him?

I wouldn't count it as a fight if Granola takes him out like he did against that Sosil fella. I'd like to believe that if Vegeta is defeated, it will not be due to distance.

[Kinokima]

But what fight happens with people so far from each other? can't Vegeta get closer? it sounds like Vegeta would be fucked only if Granola is sniping him from afar like if he was hired to kill him or something, but if they ever meet each other, how far would they need to be for Vegeta to not be able to hakai him?

I wouldn't count it as a fight if Granola takes him out like he did against that Sosil fella. I'd like to believe that if Vegeta is defeated, it will not be due to distance.

I am sure Vegeta will get screwed over in some way like he always does but just taking the vaguest of vague spoilers and getting this proves Vegeta will get beat up is a bit much

Frankly I am sure BOTH Goku and Vegeta will get a beat down by Granolah at some point. Both will probably also seem to have the upper hand at some point but will fail because the story dictates it. But Goku not Vegeta will probably be the one to defeat Granolah.

I am also expecting it to be more Goku than Vegeta that influences Granolah for the better. If it is Vegeta that would be a pleasant surprise but Goku just has that positive influence in him more than Vegeta does. Vegeta only gets to influence minor characters like Cabba.

[Kodoshin]

I think odds are even that Granolah, by the end of this arc, isn't even the villain. Fair chance that Freeza slides back into that position by the end.

[Cipher]

I don’t know where this arc is going to go, but I have no idea why anyone thinks there’s even a chance we’re going to get a third story with Freeza as the main villain.

He’s supporting cast now.

[DiscountDabi]

According to DBS Hype on Twitter, Granolah is gonna cut his hair back to what it was before. Images are Pending but makes me wonder why they made it longer to begin with if he’s just gonna cut it

[GodVegetto91]

According to DBS Hype on Twitter, Granolah is gonna cut his hair back to what it was before. Images are Pending but makes me wonder why they made it longer to begin with if he’s just gonna cut it

To signify a power increase real fast. That’s all. Also, to symbolically represent the amount of years lost from his lifespan.

[DiscountDabi]

According to DBS Hype on Twitter, Granolah is gonna cut his hair back to what it was before. Images are Pending but makes me wonder why they made it longer to begin with if he’s just gonna cut it

To signify a power increase real fast. That’s all. Also, to symbolically represent the amount of years lost from his lifespan.

It would make more sense if he had a beard as it would make far more sense why he would just get rid of it and would show the age change better

[Jack Bz]

Spoiler:

So Granolah has 3 years left...am I right in thinking that that's the amount of in-universe time until end of Z happens?

[Alruneia]

Spoiler:

So Granolah has 3 years left...am I right in thinking that that's the amount of in-universe time until end of Z happens?

Roughly speaking, it should be about that much, yes. That's a good observation. I wouldn't get my hopes up for moving out of this time period based on that alone, but it does provide a way to make it happen.

[DiscountDabi]

Spoiler:

This is something confusing so I think I have my best explanation I can give. When The Dragon Says he can Double Granolah’s Power I believe he means that he can double his Maximum Potential and the power he has is Double that of his maximum potential. Because if doubling his power made him stronger than Goku then I’d need an explanation on how he was at that Level