What are the things you like about DBS Anime?

[The Monkey King]

To this day I still feel so vindicated that the DBS anime retconned Goku almost dying from a small laser beam while in SSJB



To having him power all the way down in his base form.



I always thought that scene in Resurrection F was so astoundingly stupid and someone at Toei seemed to agree with me and made it less stupid.

[pepd]

Music
Voice acting
Some intentions in the writing.

[Grimlock]

I don't see what's the problem with that scene/moment. In the very same movie, Whis says that no matter how strong you are, if you let your guard down, you'll be defeated. That's precisely what happened.

Goku being wounded like that makes no difference if he's base or Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, at that moment, his guard was down.

Movie 15 is one of the worst material ever produced under the brand "Dragon Ball", but surely it's not because of that scene/moment.

[The Monkey King]

I don't see what's the problem with that scene/moment. In the very same movie, Whis says that no matter how strong you are, if you let your guard down, you'll be defeated. That's precisely what happened.

That's clearly bullshit if you read the manga though, a weaker character can sucker punch a stronger character and knock them over for a bit but not leave them on death's door.

According to RoF logic Piccolo should've kicked Freeza's head off right here and killed him.

Spoiler:

[Grimlock]

Yeah, but you're talking about different thing. Being hit by a punch or kick is different than being hit by a laser (especially in a vital point (?)). We don't even know what constitutes that laser, but we can see it can perforate Goku's body, so obviously it's not an ordinary laser.

Unless Whis isn't the greatest martial artist in the Universe and one of the greatest martial artists in the Multiverse, we should stick to his words.

[JulieYBM]

Piccolo's kick should have dealt lasting, deliberating damage there, actually. Knock out Freeza's vosion or something nasty so that he isn't just getting away without a struggle.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I think Freeza's body is just naturally more durable than a Saiyan body, if you don't take ki into account.

[Yuli Ban]

Piccolo's kick should have dealt lasting, deliberating damage there, actually. Knock out Freeza's vosion or something nasty so that he isn't just getting away without a struggle.

I wanted to mention this as my anti-contribution to this thread: DBS really gave up on anything to do with physical damage. Most injuries are shown off as characters weakly holding their arm or something similar. Even when they're obviously tired, they don't feel tired. Badly drawn "weakly letting their arms fall" notwithstanding. I'm just always thinking back to, say, the Goku vs. Vegeta fight when Goku's body was broken and Vegeta was limping around from his injuries, barely able to run when necessary. If that happened in DBS, Goku would probably be stiff and flat on the ground and Vegeta would be a little dusty and seem fine save for a couple scenes here and there.


At that particular point in the manga, Freeza not having any lasting damage makes sense narratively to sell just how outrageously stronger he was than both Son Goku and Piccolo, that even a cheap sneak attack like that wouldn't faze him. After all, the bastard was about to tank a Genki Dama in the ensuing pages as well as roughly hold his own against the legendary Saiyajin himself. Freeza is just too powerful, freakishly powerful. Especially against a weakened Piccolo, no sucker punch like that would even tickle him. And at the time it made sense.
Against someone like, say, Vegeta (or even second-form Freeza) it would have been interesting to see some real-ass physical damage.

Or in other words, the laser beam nearly killing Goku was bullshit. The most contrived reason to turn the tides we've seen yet in the series. And let's not forget, in the manga, we also saw Muten Roshi effortlessly dodge Jiren's attacks as a preliminary showing of what Ultra Instinct could do. No matter how little Jiren was trying, I can't buy that. I can't buy that. I refuse. I want a refund. I want to speak to your manager, Toriyama. Even against Raditz, that'd have been too stupid to take seriously. Dragon Ball has always been silly and rarely took itself seriously, but it's always maintained some sense of consistency. Heck, even Dr. Slump did, and that was a story that would will the physical manifestation of a fuck into its pages just so it could pocket it instead of giving a fuck. Dragon Ball ever since Battle of Gods has played fast and loose with itself, mostly to its own detriment. I'd like to say that it's always been this way and that I'm just older now and more aware of the series' flaws, but it really is sloppier than DB and DBZ were.

Anyway, nowadays a total weightlessness to combat is the norm. Attacks that would have broken bones or really stunned characters into a double-vision concussion (or just flat-out knocked them out) in DB or early Z end the same way nowadays, coincidentally the same way it'd work in a video game. Weightless combat is already the norm in xianxia stories, but it feels so lame here because DB didn't start out this way.

I loved Caulifla's reaction from getting gut-flattened by Goku— that sort of injury, action, reaction, that's what I'm talking about. That's how fights work! If modern DB wasn't so sterile, video gamey, and plastic (or squishy, depending on who's the animation director), we'd see more of that.

Coincidentally, one of the things I liked in the DBS anime was Caulifla. Even though I like the manga's "Song Jiang" Caulifla more.

Similarly, Goku and Freeza at Baba's place. That whole scene, the second half of that episode, that was brilliant. We finally got a flash of what DB Super could have been after so long.

[ABED]

I agree so much with Yuli Ban's comment about battle damage. It's the equivalent to the importance of selling in pro wrestling. We need to see the damage because we can't feel it and so it doesn't really register otherwise. It's one of the reasons I like the TOP quite a bit because I could feel the fighters' exhaustion.

[ankokudaishogun]

Hype.

The anime was really, REALLY good at selling HYPE moments and scenes.

I mean, who would even think Kaiohken could be HYPE?
Lots of Black Saga moments
JIREN, who might be taken as boring by some, but he was sold as an invincible WALL and delivered
Toppo goin GoD on Freeza's ass

in general: HYPE.

also, the OST, that helped said HYPE

[Kinokima]

The manga has some battle damage more so than the anime at least. But I bet if the manga is ever adapted a lot of the battle damage will be removed

[Skar]

A positive thread! What I liked about the anime:

-OST
-Some slice of life episodes
-Champa arc
-Some of new characters and major fights in the ToP.
-BoG and Broly. Not really part of the anime but they're animated.

[Jack Bz]

Goku flickering in and out of super saiyan while being totally exhausted and putting everything into one final push is one of my favourite ever dragon ball images ever. It's just so damn cool and totally nails conveying how hard he's trying and how exhausted he is. I love it.

I think the show's fight scenes at their best are as good as the best fights in Z and DB. Totally knocks it out of the park compared to GT.

Lastly, I think the japanese cast is superb. All of the new characters have the perfect voices. They couldn't have cast a more perfect Zeno if they tried.