"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[PurestEvil]

I dunno, it looks average to me.

Yep, absolutely. It looks like

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Vegeta, plus irises, minus eyebrows, with some aura detailing that's basically reminiscent of the Super Saiyan God forms. Nothing over-the-top or out of keeping with the kind of transformations we've seen so far.

Honestly, some people feel the need to be so hyper-dramatic.

Yeah, like we finally get a transformation that changes the physical appearance of the user instead of an aura or hair recoloring, and the first thing people do is shit on it.

[TheMikado]

Just came back from a looooong break from all this because I’m really really not enjoying Super and wanted to keep my distance, but this new Vegeta form rumor is spreading across the internet so I got pulled back into it. Vegeta being my all time favorite anime character makes this hard to ignore.. so if you’re running some kind of unofficial poll then just on first reactions to the limited info we have which may or may not be true, you can put me down as an “I hate it”.

Maybe it could change with more context and art but there you go. From the little we have so far, not a fan.

Also just for fun:

[DiscountDabi]

I dunno, it looks average to me.

Yep, absolutely. It looks like

Spoiler:

Vegeta, plus irises, minus eyebrows, with some aura detailing that's basically reminiscent of the Super Saiyan God forms. Nothing over-the-top or out of keeping with the kind of transformations we've seen so far.

Honestly, some people feel the need to be so hyper-dramatic.

Yeah, like we finally get a transformation that changes the physical appearance of the user instead of an aura or hair recoloring, and the first thing people do is shit on it.

Like yeah you're right this is the first Transformation in Dragon Ball Super that changes more than just a hair color. I like Vegeta going back to a more Primal Saiyan State. Perhaps this is a lead into a potential Super Saiyan 4 type thing as he goes more and more into a primal saiyan state.

[Trouser]

Yeah, like we finally get a transformation that changes the physical appearance of the user instead of an aura or hair recoloring, and the first thing people do is shit on it.

Well, we didn't need yet another transformation but if it's not fake then I'm still disliking it because it looks terrible. I'm not going to like something just because it's different. Different doesn't equal good.

[Gt91]

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Granolah breaks Vegeta's armor with his fingers.

The armor seems to be intact to me. Maybe the lower part has been hit?

oh and

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could this be a SIGN version? Maybe more is coming in the end of the arc

[TBMx]

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I thought the progression of Goku and Vegeta was gradually away from primal forms and towards more refined, divine, controlled forms as they gained mastery of their energy. So the ape like no eyebrows and caveman brow is very dubious. A step backward thematically.

Is it? Beerus said only a few Chapters ago that the divine power of Destruction, the past of the Saiyans and their own destruction (and the impression this has all left on Vegeta and his self-inhibition) are intimately connected.

The image, if real, seems to combine those thematic threads in an apt and logical enough fashion - the ape-like Saiyan features, the divine power eyes, and the God-forms/Destruction-esque aura features.

Vegeta's past was only connected because Beerus said Vegeta was holding onto that guilt which prevents him from giving into a destructive nature. That doesn't mean it should literally mutate his brow and remove his eyebrows like a cave man. What even is that and why is that a thing? It just makes it look brutish and ugly , which I think they do on purpose to make Goku's MUI look better by contrast.

I mean it looks like the baby of SS3 and SS4. Two of the most primal forms in DB. Vegeta went to SSG which is slimmer and more refined than the golden SS forms, then to SSB, which is blue and calmer than SSG, Then mastered SSB, which controls the aura even more and is more refined. Then he screams and does SSBE, the tantrum form. Then he does Spirit Control, calm, meditative balance of body and mind. Then he does this brutish looking Ape like destruction thing. He's back and forth and all over the map.

Goku's coherent. SS forms > SSG > SSB > MSSB > Omen > MUI. Each is more and more close to the divine and refined in control and mastery of his energy. He isn't going back to an ape.

You can make up a story for MUI Goku going ape too, you can say oh hes not thinking anymore so his true saiyan instincts take control and this mutates his face to look more primal. You can make up any nonsense, but what's the point? It doesn't look good. Isn't that why AT didn't do SS3 Vegeta ever in the first place?

I can't get behind this with Vegeta as its just random crap. If its real.

[Trek405]

Never liked the look of ssj3 (lack of eyebrows) so ofc vegeta get a new eyebrowless form.....

Maybe it'll grow on me if it comes with a distinct fighting style and isn't just a simple power boost but I'm not not optimistic about that

[Triggered Vegeta]

Yo this form looks interesting! Vegeta looks like a beast!

[DiscountDabi]

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Vegeta has embrased Monke

In anycase I hope my idea of Destroying Ki for incredible attacks is still a thing. And of course every new form needs a new attack so I still like My Idea for the Cataclismic Bang Attack.

Very Excited for what happens with this form in the next chapter

[Alruneia]

If that's not fake, not making any assumptions, it's going right to the bottom as the worst-looking saiyan-related transformation in my book. Because that just looks bad. The features don't fit together well at all, and I already didn't think SS3 eyebrows looked good to start with.

[UpFromTheSkies]

If this is real, I don't think I like it. SS3 is one if my favorite forms, but those brows don't look right to me without the long hair. Maybe it will grow on me.

[SupremeKai25]

To this day I don't know how anyone can like a form that removes your eyebrows and makes you look like an actual caveman.

[batistabus]

The most suspicious aspect for me is that a major spoiler would appear on this thread before anywhere else on the internet. That'd be a first LOL.

[UpFromTheSkies]

To this day I don't know how anyone can like a form that removes your eyebrows and makes you look like an actual caveman.

I think it was meant to make them look like the great ape since they have no eye brows. Originally it was even going to have a tail but Toriyama scrapped that part.

[PurestEvil]

To this day I don't know how anyone can like a form that removes your eyebrows and makes you look like an actual caveman.

Of course the Kai lover will have a distaste for forms that represents ningen nature

[OrangeBanana]

Toriyama and Toyotarou ran out of colours for poor old Vegeta so they had to take away his eyebrows, my boy got a bootleg SSJ3 look going on.

[SupremeKai25]

To this day I don't know how anyone can like a form that removes your eyebrows and makes you look like an actual caveman.

Of course the Kai lover will have a distaste for forms that represents ningen nature

So "ningen culture" is that they're cavemen?

Okay then

[PurestEvil]

To this day I don't know how anyone can like a form that removes your eyebrows and makes you look like an actual caveman.

Of course the Kai lover will have a distaste for forms that represents ningen nature

So "ningen culture" is that they're cavemen?

Okay then

Well a "caveman" is the intermediate between an ape and a human, and the eyebrowlessness is supposed to represent a primal simian appearance.

[SupremeKai25]

Of course the Kai lover will have a distaste for forms that represents ningen nature

So "ningen culture" is that they're cavemen?

Okay then

Well a "caveman" is the intermediate between an ape and a human, and the eyebrowlessness is supposed to represent a primal simian appearance.

Yes but a God form shouldn't make you look like a caveman, because the Gods (of Destruction) are not cavemen. This isn't supposed to be a Saiyan form. It's supposed to be a Divine form he attained after training with Beerus God of Destruction.

[DiscountDabi]

I knew this would be devisive. I much prefer it than anothe color or longer hair and it looks better than 90% of that fan made shit and Toppo's incredibly basic and boring looking form.

At least this form visually distinguishes itself. In the Manga its hard to tell what forms the characters are in for some people. This basically makes that I'm possible as you will know when Vegeta is in this form No matter what.

But of course nothing can become Cannon in Dragon Ball Without Pushback so what do you I really expect.

Yes but a God form shouldn't make you look like a caveman, because the Gods (of Destruction) are not cavemen. This isn't supposed to be a Saiyan form. It's supposed to be a Divine form he attained after training with Beerus God of Destruction.

Based on what Beerus said in chapter 69 this absolutley is a Saiyan Form

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