Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

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Post by pepd » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:18 pm

The CGI is a disappointment, but I guess is fine for being CGI, and the rest makes up for it.
#1, #2, Pan an Piccolo's house are so charming and Toriyama-like. And Piccolo has yellow arms! Wouldn't it be great if they make Buluma's hair purple.


Regarding the role of the manga in the movies continuity, if they are not just the usual bad-faith "predictions", consider that Gokuu is trying to master MnG without the transformation, the same could happen with Vegeta (or there could be just no reason for him to use it)

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Post by Extreme_kai » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:20 pm

The more I look at these fish guys, the more I think they are Red Ribbon Army in some way. I don't think these are outer space aliens, the film seems pretty well-grounded on Earth. I know there is no insignia, but it could be on their backs. Ima shut up now, I just want more info than what we got, so at least I'm hesitantly hype.

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Post by Lance Freeman » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:29 pm

That teaser CGI was so herky-jerky, it honestly looked like it had been outsourced to MAPPA.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:40 pm

Still no word if Broly and Freeza are coming back or not. I doubt that Freeza is dead at the end of DBZ.
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Post by DiscountDabi » Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:00 pm

Despite the fact that the Broly movie is much nicer, there is a reason why Battle of Gods is still my Favorite Dragon Ball Movie. Followed by Path to Power and then Broly.

Battle of Gods not only started the Dragon Ball Renisance, but also does neat things for the story and I really liked Goku's aditude about getting Super Saiyan God and wish that was continued where he hated not earning forms.

Edit: If this is what the movie will look like, I'm down.

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Post by Super Saiyan Swagger » Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:08 pm

I genuinely hope that Pan is the protagonist and this is all a coming-of-age story. I'm thinking something like Hosoda's Mirai, but done in Dragon Ball's quirky style.

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Post by Thanos » Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:41 pm

Grrr!! CG bad! Am I doing it right?

Can’t get over that name, though. I thought the last two titles were bad. Seems like so many titles are made unintentionally not-catchy or snappy sounding or meant to be said out loud. There’s no way to say this movie’s title without being confusing or tongue-tied. “Hey, have you seen Dragon Ball Super Super Hero?” or “Have you seen Super Hero?”, even “Have you seen DBS Super Hero?” The fact that 9 times out of 10 you’re just going to say “the new Dragon Ball movie” is the mark of a dogshit title. A completely separate issue from the movie itself, though. I’m more hyped about the potential of an actual new movie plot which will be a first in nine years by the time this thing comes out.
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Post by AizenYTBR » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:35 am

Will the timeskip be valid only for this movie or at the end of the granola arc will we have a skip time for the time where this movie takes place?

I've always found it kind of disappointing that the anime is limited by being between the end of the buu saga and the tournament presented in the last episode, it seems that it gets stuck to that inevitable fate.

I think the idea of a time skip after the tournament and following the story from that point would be interesting.

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Post by The Accountant » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:53 am

Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero continues the awful naming scheme associated with these films. Surely some of them on the board must realize that this sounds at least somewhat janky. At least it isn't a 'Three Super Saiyan's + One Saiyan Mighty Warrior Epic Fight! Burning Fight! Intense Fist! Earth Explosion?' or some other clickbait variation of that. I'm sure after a while the majority will just refer to this as Dragon Ball Super: Hero.

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Post by ZeroNeonix » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:09 am

On one hand, we've been asking for a time skip for quite some time. But NOW??? We're just going to pretend the Moro and Granola arcs don't exist and skip them entirely?

Maybe if the movie focuses on characters other than Goku and Vegeta, we can avoid some continuity errors, but I doubt they can help themselves from giving them the spotlight. With the name Super Hero, it makes me think that MAYBE Gohan/The Great Saiyaman will play an important role in this, but it's probably just referring to the new character.

Also, if they did a time skip, and this is STILL before EoZ, then they're pretty much retconning EoZ.

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Post by DiscountDabi » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:16 am

ZeroNeonix wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:09 am On one hand, we've been asking for a time skip for quite some time. But NOW??? We're just going to pretend the Moro and Granola arcs don't exist and skip them entirely?

Maybe if the movie focuses on characters other than Goku and Vegeta, we can avoid some continuity errors, but I doubt they can help themselves from giving them the spotlight. With the name Super Hero, it makes me think that MAYBE Gohan/The Great Saiyaman will play an important role in this, but it's probably just referring to the new character.

Also, if they did a time skip, and this is STILL before EoZ, then they're pretty much retconning EoZ.
I don't think its being retconned, but I do think we are gonna gloss over Moro and Granolah. Remember Toriyama has been working on this script since 2019. And Unlike Broly its not just the plot he's writing but also the dialogue. And he also wrote the story for the Granolah arc. Its not unlike Toriyama to forget things but I don't think the two manga exclusive arcs are gonna be ignored entirely, just probrably none of the events will be mentioned and Goku and Vegeta won't fight.

I hope :think:

If we see a trailer and Vegeta has the G.O.D earing then we know for sure when this is happening

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Post by JulieYBM » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:17 am

The Granola arc was written after this film was written. It's pretty easy for it to not...you, like, know...not be contradictory.
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Post by precita » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:56 am

Kind of ironic but this movie is coming out almost 10 years after Battle of Gods in 2013. It's a really weird thought that it's already been nearly a decade since the Beerus movie revived modern Dragon Ball.

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Post by sangofe » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:02 am

I really like the character designs and Piccolo's house. I really dislike Goku in CGI and I hope that will never happen.

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Post by SuperSaiyaManZ94 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:20 am

If this really is going to be a full on CG movie (Didn't think Dragon Ball would ever have one those) will it be a one off thing? The CGI almost shot for shot remake of Pokemon: Mewtwo Strikes Back from a couple years ago certainly was as the subsequent films after went back to the traditional style. I wonder if this will be the same kind of thing.

Honestly the bits i see of this don't look too bad, while the CG graphics in the Mewtwo remake OTOH just looked so off to me and was kind of distracting the one time i watched it. It seemed a little too uncanny with the way they translated the distinctive art style of the anime into that format.
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Post by Brettjr25 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:22 am

I may be in the minority here but I would LOVE a movie starring Pan, Gohan and Videl. Since Piccolo has to be shoved into anything involving Gohan...then I guess it's ok.

Story concept.

Pan sees and admire those numbered superheroes from a space broadcast or movie. The are considered cool in her school and she wants to be like them.

Videl tells Pan about how her and her father met and how he was a superhero. Pan doesn't see her father as a superhero cause of course Gohan is that glasses and sweater wearing dork.

Gohan tries to impress her by showing her his Great Saiyaman outfit. Like usual...no one is impressed.

The planet is invaded by some alien gang or whatever. Gohan gets beaten up and Piccolo helps him. They try to fight off but Gohan is wounded.

Pan runs up to Gohan in tears. Gohan gets up and continues to fight on and gives it everything he has to protect his family and friends.

After the battle we see Gohan through Pan eyes as he's beaten but victorous standing under a ray of light.

Pan wants to be like Goha and asks Videl to teach her martial arts.

That would be great and a nice change of pace.

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Post by AizenYTBR » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:30 am

ZeroNeonix wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:09 am On one hand, we've been asking for a time skip for quite some time. But NOW??? We're just going to pretend the Moro and Granola arcs don't exist and skip them entirely?

Maybe if the movie focuses on characters other than Goku and Vegeta, we can avoid some continuity errors, but I doubt they can help themselves from giving them the spotlight. With the name Super Hero, it makes me think that MAYBE Gohan/The Great Saiyaman will play an important role in this, but it's probably just referring to the new character.

Also, if they did a time skip, and this is STILL before EoZ, then they're pretty much retconning EoZ.
Between the moro arc and the granola arc, an indefinite amount of time has passed, and the key characters to detect if there has been a time shift (goten, trunks, pan) have not appeared so far.

Maybe the movie takes place during the time between the two arcs, and the time skip has already happened, we just haven't heard of it yet.

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Post by DestructoDisc » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:51 am

This won't be talking place at the EoZ. Take a look at Krillin's design. He's bald and still somewhat young looking. At the EoZ he had long hair and some wrinkles.

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Post by BWri » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:55 am

Thanos wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:41 pm Grrr!! CG bad! Am I doing it right?

Can’t get over that name, though. I thought the last two titles were bad. Seems like so many titles are made unintentionally not-catchy or snappy sounding or meant to be said out loud. There’s no way to say this movie’s title without being confusing or tongue-tied. “Hey, have you seen Dragon Ball Super Super Hero?” or “Have you seen Super Hero?”, even “Have you seen DBS Super Hero?” The fact that 9 times out of 10 you’re just going to say “the new Dragon Ball movie” is the mark of a dogshit title. A completely separate issue from the movie itself, though. I’m more hyped about the potential of an actual new movie plot which will be a first in nine years by the time this thing comes out.
Come on, this is the guy who initially made "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan" and later had his own characters comment on how ridiculous it was to say. I'd say, it's to be expected at this point. Fukkatsu no 'F' is the only movie title I thought had a lot of intrigue to it with a slight air of mystery which would work better if more prominent characters dead characters had F names at the time.
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Post by batistabus » Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:08 am

I think the image of Piccolo's house is the biggest draw of this film for me so far.

First, the image is beautiful. It's well stylized yet true to nature. It's grand yet rustic and simple. The familiarity of Earth combined with the exotic/alien architecture makes it feel uniquely Toriyama. It's true to the Piccolo we know, and it manages to reveal new things about him.

Piccolo doesn't fit in with earthlings, but he has emotions that we (earthlings) resonate with. The Boo arc pushes him as a "fish out of water", and the fact that he's so geographically isolated supports that (As a side, Goku might be comparably isolated). On the other hand, turns out he's not this vagabond that spends every moment meditating across the earth or hanging with Dende. He goes home. He gets mail. He probably has his routine, and he probably enjoys living on his own. Like Omoori in Jaco and Monaito in Super, he has found contentment in his corner of the world.

Piccolo's domestic life may end up revealing internal conflict, but that'll be fun to find out.

Speaking of Jaco, the tone of this image is very much present in that story. It's an aspect of Toriyama's style that I find (disappointingly) absent from Super, save a few instances (the beginning of the Tournament of Power stands out the most for me).

If this image is truly representative of the tone of the film, or at least part of it, I'm pretty exited.

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