TKA wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:06 pm
emperior wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:31 pm
Also, it’s not clear if someone like Granolah could now wish for immortality. I doubt he could.
Sure would help if the story gave enough of a shit to explain the basics of these things, no?
Say what you will about Toriyama's consistency in writing, but whenever he introduced new elements, he made sure to explain why these things are happening and why they hadn't happened before. A lot of the time it's sloppy, but if you just accepted it you'd be in for a good time.
This is just lame.
Look man, I've sympathised with some of your takes, but with this arc it feels like you're very preoccupied with criticising the story based on your own assumptions of where you believe the story is
going to go and looking at things with foresight, as though they've already been set in stone. Like earlier you talked about the last two fights having no lasting consequences in the story. Unless you're clairvoyant, you can't know that for certain yet. Meanwhile, Granola's wish seems to be living rent-free in your head.
It's likely that the Dragons cannot contravene a wish already made, or at the very least, one Dragon cannot reverse the wish of another (I get the feeling Monaito's gonna cop it so Toronbo would be put out of the picture too). It's well known that arbitrary rule list for wish-granting is longer in this comic is than the Great Wall of China. Yes, there's Super Shenron, but considering the Super DBs are the size of planets, usually spread across multiple universes and require the language of the Gods, it's unlikely Granola will get his hands on them, but we'll see. In time, the explanations you seek may spring up when they become relevant. I'd rather that than more stilted exposition than we already have.
To me, the stakes already felt pretty definitive. Here's unlimited power, here's the cost, no turning back, end of. As to why it's never happened before, most previous antagonists preferred immortality or other goals, and were usually arrogant enough to believe their own natural strength was enough. Freeza was already the strongest in the universe as far as he knew. Same applies for most of 'em. Granola needing the strength to take down Freeza was his whole motivation.