"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by Xeogran » Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:00 am

New spoiler:

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Toyotaro confirmed that Oatmeal is an AI stored in Granola's earpiece
E: in the How to Draw Granola special
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Post by Xeogran » Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:32 am

pepd wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:30 am Toyotaro confirmed that Oatmeal is an AI stored in Granola's earpiece
Yeah, can't wait to see Goku and Vegeta lose to it too :lol:
It's a joke at this point, to start an arc off this way.

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Post by OLKv3 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:58 am

Vegeta going crazy and losing control because he can't handle his power reminds me a bit of the Heroes form

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Post by The Accountant » Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:10 am

WHY TOYOTARO?!?! WHY!!! oh and we've reached page 2021 :thumbup:

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Post by DiscountDabi » Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:32 am

Does anyone else feel like Granolah is a Gary Stue?

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Post by HeroR » Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:33 am

DiscountDabi wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:58 am Only Dragon Ball Super can drain my Hype in One Scan:
Vegeta has an official day?
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Charlie's Shadow » Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:42 am

I like to wait for the full chapter. A lot of people start raging and ranting just at the sight of one page.

But if Vegeta does indeed lose, that's disappointing (and repetitive). Even if it has a reason (some weakness or something), it completely undermines the set up of the last chapter. They could've just interrupted the fight if they didn't want Granola to lose.

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Post by DSB » Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:05 am

I really cant defend Super anymore. This is beyond bullshit.

Goku this, Goku that.

No wonder other manga fans call DB a mid. I absolutely agree with it now. Toyotato/Toriyama has no idea how to write a series anymore.

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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:09 am

It better not be because Vegeta explained how to use hakai 😤 I think Toriyama hates Vegeta, everytime it happens! He better have something amazing in store for us to make up for it 😤

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Post by jd55513 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:11 am

DiscountDabi wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:32 am Does anyone else feel like Granolah is a Gary Stue?

This arc is supposed to be similar to the Moro arc(it's literally a sequel)

Granolah is basically Moro 2.0

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DiscountDabi wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:32 am Does anyone else feel like Granolah is a Gary Stue?
He is not a Mary Sue because he actually wished to be the strongest, so there's the explanation as to why he is so OP.

But he did have it easy compared to other villains like Cell or Zamasu.

For instance, Cell had to kill Future Trunks, steal his time machine, travel through time, hide for years underground, re-emerge and start feasting on people to grow stronger, find and absorb the two androids, etc. etc. etc.

Zamasu had to manipulate and deceive the other Gods, blackmail Zuno, kill his master, find the Super Dragon Balls twice, travel through time, train and fight to unlock the power of Goku's body, kill the other Gods, destroy the Super Dragon Balls, etc. etc. etc.

Granolah? Oh he just collected 2 balls and that was it. He didn't have to work for anything honestly, he had it so easy.
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
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Post by Alruneia » Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:36 am

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Post by DestructoDisc » Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:48 am

DiscountDabi wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:32 am Does anyone else feel like Granolah is a Gary Stue?
He's Toyo's OC for this arc. Look at how Merus was portrayed in the previous one

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Post by PurestEvil » Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:03 am

DiscountDabi wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:32 am Does anyone else feel like Granolah is a Gary Stue?
His character flaws were literally laid on the table in front of us, so no.
He’s gonna get his behind kicked sooner or later anyways...
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