A Question about Toriyama-Sensei

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:56 pm

This question may stir up suspiscion.

1.Viz is pretty much turining Dragon Ball's manga in to the next Pokemon.

2.Funimation is getting creative with their releases, but annoying with only dubbing half of the lines in the Dragonball games.

3.DragonBall's live action movie is turining DB into a Star Wars meets Never Ending Story-esque movie franchise.

Out of all this craziness, what does Mr.Toriyama have to say about this? Does anyone know if he's alright with America's "creative" use of Dragonball?

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:58 pm

Even if he knew about it, he wouldn't care.

As we speak he's sleeping on top of a pile of money.

Toriyama Boss · Post by **Toriyama Boss** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:08 am

Exactly, $Toriyama$ is just smiling and loving the dough Dragonball brings him....He loves the dough!

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:09 am

Yeah, I doubt he really cares.

As far as I know, he doesn't speak or read/write much or any English, so whatever FUNimation or Viz do doesn't really affect him. As for the movie, he might get invited to Japan's premiere or something, and if he attends (or whenever he sees the movie otherwise), he'll probably just go, "oh that's nice, good job."

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:35 am

Pain wrote:Out of all this craziness, what does Mr.Toriyama have to say about this?

"Do you like my hat? IT'S MADE OF MONEY! AHAHAHAHA"

Seriously, why does everyone assume Mr. Toriyama cares one whit? He invented Dragonball to make money. That is its sole purpose for existing. So, as long as it's making money, why should he care?

shotkeeper · Post by **shotkeeper** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:08 am

He did? Just for money? It would sound way cooler, if he was more happier about Dragonball and making a Myspace. I don't understand him.

I will just complete my collection, all Remastered DVD and the manga. Daizenshuu and stuff will be extra, those are not essential. Neither is meeting
or talking with Toriyama.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:04 am

Well that's a big "IF". By "IF" I mean, if Toriyama still remembers Dragonball.

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:32 am

Pain wrote:Out of all this craziness, what does Mr.Toriyama have to say about this? Does anyone know if he's alright with America's "creative" use of Dragonball?

America develops only a fraction of the worlds Dragonball material. Even though we produce more than any other individual country (from what I've heard) the Asian continent as a whole produces several different dubs under many different brands and companies. I personally believe that if Toryama was really worried about any other country's Dragonball other than Japans it would be in Asia where there are more Dragonball fans than anywhere else.

Post by **Herms** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:07 pm

There actually is something where Toriyama talked about the prospect of a live-action DragonBall movie. It's on pp.154-155 of the kanzenban guidebook DragonBall Forever. It's part of a longer sort of essay by Toriyama on himself and DragonBall. This book was published in 2004, so quite a ways before the live-action DragonBall movie became confirmed. I noticed this excerpt a few months ago and have been meaning to translate and post it up every since, so I guess I'll do it now.

Happy but Embarrassed
The DragonBall Re-Boom
Even now there are many fans, and various books and games are being made...I guess financially I'm pretty happy (laughs). There's even talk that it'll be made into a movie. Ye~ah...if I'm happy then I'm happy, but I don't really like to see my own work so much. Unless it's really astounding, I won't feel like meddling with the script or content...I don't have any particular requests concerning the cast. I like movies, but my own work is no good for them, and most of all I'm embarrassed. I think that every now and then, but then I think “Man, that's pretty cold-hearted for the author to think that”. Even during serialization I think I had those cold-hearted feelings, the sense that I was drawing because it was my job. When the games have been made as well, I haven't really touched them.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:54 pm

Being as Toriyama had to deal with 11 years of "deadline hell", I doubt he cares about Dragonball anymore.

Toriyama Boss · Post by **Toriyama Boss** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:41 pm

Herms wrote:There actually is something where Toriyama talked about the prospect of a live-action DragonBall movie. It's on pp.154-155 of the kanzenban guidebook DragonBall Forever. It's part of a longer sort of essay by Toriyama on himself and DragonBall. This book was published in 2004, so quite a ways before the live-action DragonBall movie became confirmed. I noticed this excerpt a few months ago and have been meaning to translate and post it up every since, so I guess I'll do it now.
Happy but Embarrassed
The DragonBall Re-Boom
Even now there are many fans, and various books and games are being made...I guess financially I'm pretty happy (laughs). There's even talk that it'll be made into a movie. Ye~ah...if I'm happy then I'm happy, but I don't really like to see my own work so much. Unless it's really astounding, I won't feel like meddling with the script or content...I don't have any particular requests concerning the cast. I like movies, but my own work is no good for them, and most of all I'm embarrassed. I think that every now and then, but then I think “Man, that's pretty cold-hearted for the author to think that”. Even during serialization I think I had those cold-hearted feelings, the sense that I was drawing because it was my job. When the games have been made as well, I haven't really touched them.

Thanks for sharing that Herms.

Toriyama is the man!

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:54 am

shotkeeper wrote:He did? Just for money?

Yeah, that was kinda-sorta his job, to draw comics in exchange for cash.

It would sound way cooler, if he was more happier about Dragonball and making a Myspace. I don't understand him.

A decade of cranking out a manga chapter every week probably soured him on the whole thing.

And where'd the myspace reference come from?

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:41 am

Yeah, that was kinda-sorta his job, to draw comics in exchange for cash.

Lord you really think it was solely for money. Jesus if all an artist cared about was money. Then they would have gotten real jobs. You don't do a series that has been as popular and enduring as Dragonball and only care about money.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:24 am

Victator Supreme wrote:
Yeah, that was kinda-sorta his job, to draw comics in exchange for cash.
Lord you really think it was solely for money. Jesus if all an artist cared about was money. Then they would have gotten real jobs. You don't do a series that has been as popular and enduring as Dragonball and only care about money.

While cash may not be why he started it, it probably is why he continued it.
Toriyama loves one shots and I believe Dragonball was originally supposed to be very short but kept being bumped up until the final product was 42 (about) issues. By that time he was extreamly sick of his creation and wished it to be done and over with.

Yi Xing Long · Post by **Yi Xing Long** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:53 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
Victator Supreme wrote:
Yeah, that was kinda-sorta his job, to draw comics in exchange for cash.
Lord you really think it was solely for money. Jesus if all an artist cared about was money. Then they would have gotten real jobs. You don't do a series that has been as popular and enduring as Dragonball and only care about money.
While cash may not be why he started it, it probably is why he continued it.
Toriyama loves one shots and I believe Dragonball was originally supposed to be very short but kept being bumped up until the final product was 42 (about) issues. By that time he was extreamly sick of his creation and wished it to be done and over with.

Actually, cash IS why he started it. He needed money badly so he decided to give "Dragon Boy" a try.

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:11 pm

Wait wasnt he coming off super successful Dr.Slump?

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:15 pm

Victator Supreme wrote:Wait wasnt he coming off super successful Dr.Slump?

Yes he was, though it obviously didn't earn him as much money as he wanted/needed. Interestingly enough, even though the original Dr. slump anime series ended in 1986 it is currently being re-released in Japan, just like Dragonball is being here.

Also, I think it is amazing that even though Dragonball was made with the purpose of making money, Toryama was still able to produce such a phenomenal product. Hats off to you Akira Toryama!

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:12 am

Toriyama started making manga because he had no money. He said that he entered a manga contest because he was stealing money out of his mom's purse for cigarettes at 20. If he would have won, he probably never would have made manga for a living, because he just wanted immediate money.

Source is either the American Shonen Jump issue 01 or 03.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:39 pm

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Toriyama started making manga because he had no money. He said that he entered a manga contest because he was stealing money out of his mom's purse for cigarettes at 20. If he would have won, he probably never would have made manga for a living, because he just wanted immediate money.

Source is either the American Shonen Jump issue 01 or 03.

This is true. This comes from an interview in Shonen Jump #3.

Toriyama Boss · Post by **Toriyama Boss** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:10 pm

I wonder how many interviews has Toriyama done?

Anyone know?

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