Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

[ObnoxiousNamek]

I honestly don't see what could be so interesting with planet Sadala. Vegeta meeting other saiyans who have nothing to do with him or his past, I mean, maybe if there was some Vegeta bloodline there or something, or if they happen to have some problem with the formerly evil U7 saiyans. I can't see that being more than just a friendly visit, that could also be an email.


Or with Cabba. Geets it's going down his own path now, he shouldn't have time to teach the basics to some scrawny kid. He already gave him the jumpstart he needed, he won't be holding his hand all the way down the line. At best I can see them meeting again in the future with Cabba pulling out SSB or something and try and see if he can take him.

None of the U6 saiyans left a big impression on me either, they had to fuse to made me like one of them. Maybe Caulifla is sort of ok, but she is too obnoxious for my taste.

I’d rather see that then Dr Geros long lost uncle/nephew finding another hidden lab we didn’t know about with new androids and it’s been monitoring the z fighters.

[Skar]

Agreed on the part about the 6 Erased Universes. Toriyama had the perfect opportunity to have 17's wish, which objectively had ambiguous wording, bring back the Universes 12-18 too, with all the villains and civilizations it might have had.

There's a fan comic called Kakumei exploring this idea. It's an interesting concept but I don't think it's something Toriyama would write. This fan comic tried to give a greater motive for why these six universes were erased because they were a threat while DBS implies that Zeno destroyed them at random because he was annoyed over something minor.

It's likely this idea along with others we've seen in Heroes like fighters from different universes teaming up and return of more past villains were suggested to Toriyama already. These are the first ideas that come to mind so it's hard to believe they haven't been considered. Not sure if what we got was better but I would also prefer he writes stories he would enjoy rather than what he expects fans or the studio want.

[ObnoxiousNamek]

Agreed on the part about the 6 Erased Universes. Toriyama had the perfect opportunity to have 17's wish, which objectively had ambiguous wording, bring back the Universes 12-18 too, with all the villains and civilizations it might have had.

There's a fan comic called Kakumei exploring this idea. It's an interesting concept but I don't think it's something Toriyama would write. This fan comic tried to give a greater motive for why these six universes were erased because they were a threat while DBS implies that Zeno destroyed them at random because he was annoyed over something minor.

It's likely this idea along with others we've seen in Heroes like fighters from different universes teaming up and return of more past villains were suggested to Toriyama already. These are the first ideas that come to mind so it's hard to believe they haven't been considered. Not sure if what we got was better but I would also prefer he writes stories he would enjoy rather than what he expects fans or the studio want.

I’d rather the studio give him ideas and he mixes a little of his style with it instead. There is a difference in why the reception between ResF and Broly was massive with the later being way on the positive side.

[Demon Prince Piccolo]

I honestly don't see what could be so interesting with planet Sadala. Vegeta meeting other saiyans who have nothing to do with him or his past, I mean, maybe if there was some Vegeta bloodline there or something, or if they happen to have some problem with the formerly evil U7 saiyans. I can't see that being more than just a friendly visit, that could also be an email.


Or with Cabba. Geets it's going down his own path now, he shouldn't have time to teach the basics to some scrawny kid. He already gave him the jumpstart he needed, he won't be holding his hand all the way down the line. At best I can see them meeting again in the future with Cabba pulling out SSB or something and try and see if he can take him.

None of the U6 saiyans left a big impression on me either, they had to fuse to made me like one of them. Maybe Caulifla is sort of ok, but she is too obnoxious for my taste.

I’d rather see that then Dr Geros long lost uncle/nephew finding another hidden lab we didn’t know about with new androids and it’s been monitoring the z fighters.

Where is this a thing?

[Mr_CINDER]

Agreed on the part about the 6 Erased Universes. Toriyama had the perfect opportunity to have 17's wish, which objectively had ambiguous wording, bring back the Universes 12-18 too, with all the villains and civilizations it might have had.

There's a fan comic called Kakumei exploring this idea. It's an interesting concept but I don't think it's something Toriyama would write. This fan comic tried to give a greater motive for why these six universes were erased because they were a threat while DBS implies that Zeno destroyed them at random because he was annoyed over something minor.

It's likely this idea along with others we've seen in Heroes like fighters from different universes teaming up and return of more past villains were suggested to Toriyama already. These are the first ideas that come to mind so it's hard to believe they haven't been considered. Not sure if what we got was better but I would also prefer he writes stories he would enjoy rather than what he expects fans or the studio want.

I’d rather the studio give him ideas and he mixes a little of his style with it instead. There is a difference in why the reception between ResF and Broly was massive with the later being way on the positive side.

Yes broly was awesome toriyama did give him some real character depth and he was sympathetic character and not evil just fot the sake of it. The problem is toriyama dont want dragon ball to become like that. His envisioned dragon ball is lighhearted and comedic. I mean its the same situation with george lucas and prequel haters , he said the same thing people dont want comedic character like jar jar and stuff like that and he himself said star wars is for 12 years old but they dont want to admit it and they dont want any comedy.

[ObnoxiousNamek]

I honestly don't see what could be so interesting with planet Sadala. Vegeta meeting other saiyans who have nothing to do with him or his past, I mean, maybe if there was some Vegeta bloodline there or something, or if they happen to have some problem with the formerly evil U7 saiyans. I can't see that being more than just a friendly visit, that could also be an email.


Or with Cabba. Geets it's going down his own path now, he shouldn't have time to teach the basics to some scrawny kid. He already gave him the jumpstart he needed, he won't be holding his hand all the way down the line. At best I can see them meeting again in the future with Cabba pulling out SSB or something and try and see if he can take him.

None of the U6 saiyans left a big impression on me either, they had to fuse to made me like one of them. Maybe Caulifla is sort of ok, but she is too obnoxious for my taste.

I’d rather see that then Dr Geros long lost uncle/nephew finding another hidden lab we didn’t know about with new androids and it’s been monitoring the z fighters.

Where is this a thing?

Come on after the trailers you really don’t believe that the plot of the new movie isn’t gonna be either Gero or Commander Reds nephew or uncle restarting the RR army with “new androids” that can somehow beat Piccolo post Moro arc out of the blue. DB movie plots aren’t the hardest to predict.

[ObnoxiousNamek]

Yes broly was awesome toriyama did give him some real character depth and he was sympathetic character and not evil just fot the sake of it. The problem is toriyama dont want dragon ball to become like that. His envisioned dragon ball is lighhearted and comedic. I mean its the same situation with george lucas and prequel haters , he said the same thing people dont want comedic character like jar jar and stuff like that and he himself said star wars is for 12 years old but they dont want to admit it and they dont want any comedy.

I like having comedy in DB it’s just sometimes jokes and gags are reused too much like buu falling asleep when something important happens, bulma saggy boobs jokes. It loses its appeal & becomes stale when it’s the same handful of ones we have seen already throughout the series.

[Skar]

I’d rather the studio give him ideas and he mixes a little of his style with it instead. There is a difference in why the reception between ResF and Broly was massive with the later being way on the positive side.

I think every storyline in DBS was like that aside from RoF and maybe the Champa arc. I didn't like them all but I just meant that it's more likely to be better if he chooses suggestions that he would enjoy writing or expanding on.

[Xeogran]

Ah man, I'm really curious if they will showcase any manga content here. Ultra Ego is doubtful, but Goku willingly transforming into UI to train Broly would be interesting. Seven-Three could also get a passing mention considering this is an Android movie and he was the latest one they had to deal with.

[Mr_CINDER]

Yes broly was awesome toriyama did give him some real character depth and he was sympathetic character and not evil just fot the sake of it. The problem is toriyama dont want dragon ball to become like that. His envisioned dragon ball is lighhearted and comedic. I mean its the same situation with george lucas and prequel haters , he said the same thing people dont want comedic character like jar jar and stuff like that and he himself said star wars is for 12 years old but they dont want to admit it and they dont want any comedy.

I like having comedy in DB it’s just sometimes jokes and gags are reused too much like buu falling asleep when something important happens, bulma saggy boobs jokes. It loses its appeal & becomes stale when it’s the same handful of ones we have seen already throughout the series.

Yes i know those are little bit of frustating and over used jokes but TOP arc and jiren was all toriyama even though his backstory was cliche but that was pretty serious ,i dont know about you but i enjoyed the TOP arc. This time the editors themself said there will be healthy ammount of drama and combat, there will be serious moment. AT the end battle of gods became very serious when beerus started the fight.

[Demon Prince Piccolo]

Come on after the trailers you really don’t believe that the plot of the new movie isn’t gonna be either Gero or Commander Reds nephew or uncle restarting the RR army with “new androids” that can somehow beat Piccolo post Moro arc out of the blue. DB movie plots aren’t the hardest to predict.

Oh, I see. Well maybe it could be, idk. I guess I'm fine with it because the RRA feel natural as long-running, behind-the-curtains antagonists in Dragon Ball to me, even at this point. I've always liked them.

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

Super Hero will be at Jump Festa 2022. They're going to announce the voice actors for Gamma 1 and Gamma 2. I'm also predicting that this is where we'll see the first official trailer along with the main visual.

[JulieYBM]

In before Namikawa Daisuke and Miyano Mamoru as the voices.

Or Fukuyama Jun.

[Mr_CINDER]

Super Hero will be at Jump Festa 2022. They're going to announce the voice actors for Gamma 1 and Gamma 2. I'm also predicting that this is where we'll see the first official trailer along with the main visual.

Recently ONE PICE film red announced and set to be released in august 6th 2022, so i am guessing Db movie gets the release date in jump festa.

[capsulecorp]

I honestly don't see what could be so interesting with planet Sadala. Vegeta meeting other saiyans who have nothing to do with him or his past, I mean, maybe if there was some Vegeta bloodline there or something, or if they happen to have some problem with the formerly evil U7 saiyans. I can't see that being more than just a friendly visit, that could also be an email.


Or with Cabba. Geets it's going down his own path now, he shouldn't have time to teach the basics to some scrawny kid. He already gave him the jumpstart he needed, he won't be holding his hand all the way down the line. At best I can see them meeting again in the future with Cabba pulling out SSB or something and try and see if he can take him.

None of the U6 saiyans left a big impression on me either, they had to fuse to made me like one of them. Maybe Caulifla is sort of ok, but she is too obnoxious for my taste.

I’d rather see that then Dr Geros long lost uncle/nephew finding another hidden lab we didn’t know about with new androids and it’s been monitoring the z fighters.

It's hard to know what I think of the new movie since it's not out yet and we don't know much about the plot. However, I agree that I don't want to see more of The Salad Planet and those awful U6 Saiyans. There's really not much of interest about "a planet full of Saiyans", especially considering how little I cared for the ones we already met. It's also problematic because it's such a Vegeta-focused idea, and it plays with some of the least interesting and most overused aspects of Vegeta: his tedious relationship with the Saiyan bloodline and his racial pride.

Not to mention, it's long past time for Vegeta to step back and become less involved in the plot.

[ObnoxiousNamek]

I honestly don't see what could be so interesting with planet Sadala. Vegeta meeting other saiyans who have nothing to do with him or his past, I mean, maybe if there was some Vegeta bloodline there or something, or if they happen to have some problem with the formerly evil U7 saiyans. I can't see that being more than just a friendly visit, that could also be an email.


Or with Cabba. Geets it's going down his own path now, he shouldn't have time to teach the basics to some scrawny kid. He already gave him the jumpstart he needed, he won't be holding his hand all the way down the line. At best I can see them meeting again in the future with Cabba pulling out SSB or something and try and see if he can take him.

None of the U6 saiyans left a big impression on me either, they had to fuse to made me like one of them. Maybe Caulifla is sort of ok, but she is too obnoxious for my taste.

I’d rather see that then Dr Geros long lost uncle/nephew finding another hidden lab we didn’t know about with new androids and it’s been monitoring the z fighters.

It's hard to know what I think of the new movie since it's not out yet and we don't know much about the plot. However, I agree that I don't want to see more of The Salad Planet and those awful U6 Saiyans. There's really not much of interest about "a planet full of Saiyans", especially considering how little I cared for the ones we already met. It's also problematic because it's such a Vegeta-focused idea, and it plays with some of the least interesting and most overused aspects of Vegeta: his tedious relationship with the Saiyan bloodline and his racial pride.

Not to mention, it's long past time for Vegeta to step back and become less involved in the plot.

Well I wouldnt have Vegeta go alone

At some point we gotta move on to brand new things It’s high time we stop reusing old enemies from DB/Z. I mean how many more threats universe 7 could there be especially after the latest wish in the manga & why create a multiverse and you barely use it? I kind of trust Toriyamas ability to turn unlikeable characters into likable ones. We should give him a chance to try his hand (not Toyotaro) with these new saiyans instead of another possible rehash.

[ZeroNeonix]

Why not Vegeta + Trunks and Bra? Could treat it like a family vacation, where Vegeta can teach his kids about their Saiyan heritage. Before, he could only tell them stories of his people and his dead planet. Now he has access to an alternate universe, where the original Saiyan planet still exists, and the Saiyans aren't all awful people serving an intergalactic dictator.

[Peach]

Why not Vegeta + Trunks and Bra? Could treat it like a family vacation, where Vegeta can teach his kids about their Saiyan heritage. Before, he could only tell them stories of his people and his dead planet. Now he has access to an alternate universe, where the original Saiyan planet still exists, and the Saiyans aren't all awful people serving an intergalactic dictator.

That would make an excellent OVA or short. Like the one with Vegeta's brother lol. Hell, bring along Tarble, Gure, and the Son family. Maybe toss in a gag where Piccolo and Dende rent a space car and go on vacation to U6 Namek.

I honestly don't see what could be so interesting with planet Sadala. Vegeta meeting other saiyans who have nothing to do with him or his past, I mean, maybe if there was some Vegeta bloodline there or something, or if they happen to have some problem with the formerly evil U7 saiyans. I can't see that being more than just a friendly visit, that could also be an email.


Or with Cabba. Geets it's going down his own path now, he shouldn't have time to teach the basics to some scrawny kid. He already gave him the jumpstart he needed, he won't be holding his hand all the way down the line. At best I can see them meeting again in the future with Cabba pulling out SSB or something and try and see if he can take him.

None of the U6 saiyans left a big impression on me either, they had to fuse to made me like one of them. Maybe Caulifla is sort of ok, but she is too obnoxious for my taste.

I think a friendly visit would be the best route to go. Same format as the YO! Son Goku and His Friends Return OVA. I could imagine some funny else-world Goku, Vegeta, Raditz doppelgangers.

[Lord Beerus]

Super Hero will be at Jump Festa 2022. They're going to announce the voice actors for Gamma 1 and Gamma 2. I'm also predicting that this is where we'll see the first official trailer along with the main visual.

Recently ONE PICE film red announced and set to be released in august 6th 2022, so i am guessing Db movie gets the release date in jump festa.

The fact that a One Piece film was announced and with a date set for next year (in August no less) just makes me even more worried about the production of DBS Super Hero.

That film is either way behind schedule and Toei are trying to hold back on giving a specific release date to give the film as much production time as possible or Toei is trying to sort out a simultaneous international release date and haven't done so yet.

That One Piece Film Red announcement also kills the idea that Toei didn't have enough staff for a traditional 2D animated film because they clearly did and they just prioritized One Piece over Dragon Ball and had Dragon Ball be the guinea pig for their new 3D technology.

Red flags should be drawn out immediately if a release date and/or a new trailer isn't provided at Jump Festa this year.

[Skar]

That One Piece Film Red announcement also kills the idea that Toei didn't have enough staff for a traditional 2D animated film because they clearly did and they just prioritized One Piece over Dragon Ball and had Dragon Ball be the guinea pig for their new 3D technology.

That's a good point. I never believed the argument that this movie was CGI only because they didn't have enough staff for traditional animation. I assume it had to be a creative choice and something Toriyama had to approve. There was 3D One Piece and Digimon films and I'm pretty sure other franchises have had one off CGI films or specials. They seem to be experimental creative choices since I don't think any continued with only CGI after that.