Koitsukai wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:19 pm
An army of Metal Cooler that in the movie required two SS to go down... who can take 50 of them? can Perfect Cell do it? Majin Buu? Majin Vegeta? Broly?
And what if the Big Gete star managed to harness the power of Goku and Vegeta, and creates an army of Metal Super Saiyans... like 50 Metal SS, who could take them out??
SS3 Gotenks?
Vegito?
Buuhan?
Super Boo?
Well the movie's name suggests there was a thousand Metal Coolers, but I'm not sure how they compare to Goku and Vegeta. It was a off screen fight, and they were clearly worn out. Assuming a linear increase with his "Zenkais" (which took him from below SSJ Goku to needing Goku and Vegeta to be defeated), each Metal Cooler would be somewhat above the androids. Android 16 might put up a fight, but it would take 2nd form Cell or Super Vegeta to take this.
The Big Gete Star took Cooler from a disembodied head (face?) to even stronger than his 5th form was. A similar boost would get those Metal SSJs on at least Boo Saga SSJ2 tier. I think the fat Majin Boo would take this because of this line from Piccolo:
Chapter: 469 (DBZ 275), P5.6-7
Goku: “Damn it! If either Vegeta or Gohan were alive, maybe we could have managed something…”
Piccolo: “…No, it probably wouldn’t matter how many people went at him…He wasn’t at that level…”
picc wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:37 am
Current Android 18 vs
Current Base Goku
Current Base Vegeta
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Current Ssj kid trunks vs Current 4th form freeza
Android 18 seems to somehow have closed the gap between herself and 17, who is SSJB level. She could keep up and sync his attacks with him when fighting Saganbo and Moro. Vegeta was shown in a recent chapter attacking SSJB Goku while in base, so I'd say at least he can take it. Not sure about Goku though.
Freeza can take Trunks in his first form. Trunks doesn't seem to have powered up since the Boo Saga, while Freeza has been keeping up with Goku and Vegeta.
Peach wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:29 pm
Master Roshi (Tournament of Power) vs. Semi Perfect Cell
Tien's Tri-Beam (Cell saga) vs. Frieza (Namek)
Gohan (after Z Sword training) vs. SSJ2 Gottenks
Super Perfect Cell vs. 18 and Krillin (Tournament of Power)
Bardock & His Squad (as Great Apes) vs. Dodoria
I'm not really sure. Roshi can do better than SSJB Goku against Jiren, but that only in terms of defense. Roshi could win if he manages to use the Mafuba. Anime Roshi probably stomps though.
Tenshinhan could actually hold down Semi Perfect Cell, so Namek Freeza would be obliterated.
Gotenks. Goku wasn't sure of Gohan's chances against Majin Boo, but was sure of Gotenks'. And he didn't even expect him to go above SSJ1.
Nothing suggests Kuririn and 18 got any stronger for the ToP, so Cell stomps horribly. Anime-wise 18 can probably take this, and Kuririn could maybe hold his own.
Bardock's gang, easily. Even if Dodoria knows about the tail weakness, there are too many of them.