capsulecorp wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:55 pm
But he's
wrong.
I don't see why you would keep repeating this.
"Purity" has nothing to do with "right" or "wrong", for reasons already explained above.
Don't you see that his observations are incomplete and his so-called-rationality is mere posturing?
Sure, but I expect you'll be willing to make the same argument for Zeno, who spared all mortals based on one guy making a selfless wish, when there are countless mortals who would abuse the Dragon Balls for twisted reasons.
You could say everything you wrote above about Hitler
I don't know why you insist so much on comparing Zamasu to Hitler, it's not an interesting comparison at all.
The DB villain who comes closest to Hitler is either Frieza or Vegeta. Hitler was just a delusional dictator of a country, not too differently from how Frieza is just a delusional dictator of a mortal empire.
Zamasu clearly transcends these petty mortal politics, he sought to reshape the entire Cosmos in his image and rule as the God of everything, and he even transcended his own body to become the incarnation of Justice, Order, the Cosmos. Hence why he's far more comparable to Satan, who like Zamasu was a Divine being, and who became the incarnation of Evil.
This comparison matches perfectly once you realize how both Zamasu and Satan share a profound and deep hatred and envy for mankind. Satan hates and envies mankind because they can still receive the blessing of God and enter Heaven while he is forever exiled, while Zamasu hates and envies mankind (Saiyans in particular) because they managed to surpass the Gods. Zamasu's whole mission starts from jealousy and envy towards Goku, who beat him in battle, and who used the powers of the Gods. These similarities are so perfect that I can't help but wonder if the writers had Satan in mind when they designed Zamasu as a character, because they are extremely similar. Both Divine beings who turned on the other Divine creatures and hated mankind.
In the end Hitler was
just a mere human, so you can't compare him to a God like Zamasu
"interesting" or "intelligent"
I don't understand why you're putting these two words in the same sentence.
"Interesting" is subjective, you clearly don't find Zamasu interesting, but I (and I assume many others since the villain is so popular) clearly do.
As for the "intelligent" part, well, Zamasu pretty much had the best and most infallible plan in the DB verse so... Even if we wanted to find flaws in his plan, we are told that he is a genius/prodigy amongst the Kais, was North Kai for a time, and was handpicked to become the next Supreme Kai, so Authorial verbatim tells us that Zamasu must be incredibly intelligent to get into these positions of power and prestige.
Unless... you don't agree with him, that humanity deserves to be destroyed, do you?
I don't see what this has to do with what we're talking about.
I already said I don't agree with Zamasu at all but people always miss the point in these discussions. I don't defend Zamasu because I agree with him (although there's a whole can of worms called "moral relativism" that if you can open if you want, OP already did, but I'd rather not do that because these discussions never end and it's not my point
), I defend him because he is my favourite villain and he is easily the most savage and badass villain in DB.
And if anything this thread has helped me reiterate why Zamasu is easily the most cold-blooded villain DB ever had. No other villain can compare to his body count, since he literally eradicated every mortal in the Cosmos... Where every other villain failed, Zamasu succeeded (killing Goku, getting Immortality, killing everyone, destroying the Universe, etc. etc. etc.).
Since I take it that you don't like Zamasu, why would you not admit that he is...
pure evil
(also, Zamasu is highly melodramatic, at least in the anime! he's a drama queen!)
Part of the reason why he's so entertaining. He knows how to start drama and after all that's what makes people tune in.
But he is not melodramatic, at least not in the sense (of the word's meaning) that he "appeals to the emotions" of the other characters. Zamasu doesn't give a shit about what mortals or Gowasu think, he's just going to kill them all