Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

[Mr Baggins]

Dunno why people are focusing so much on sales metrics here. Who cares?

I'm just excited to have a story that's predominantly and near exclusively written by Toriyama. It's been years since Broly, so we haven't had it in a long time. I don't think it's any coincidence that I tend to enjoy modern DB the most when the OG is at the helm.

[capsulecorp]

Dunno why people are focusing so much on sales metrics here. Who cares?

I'm just excited to have a story that's predominantly and near exclusively written by Toriyama. It's been years since Broly, so we haven't had it in a long time. I don't think it's any coincidence that I tend to enjoy modern DB the most when the OG is at the helm.

Yup, same. When the Broly movie was announced I was really kind of bummed. Reviving a boring character from an awful Toei film? No thanks! I was pleasantly surprised though, and the art was fantastic. This time around... I'm more excited by the premise, but not very excited by the art.

[FortuneSSJ]

I have to admit I often question myself the competency of the people holding the rights of this franchise. A moneymaker franchise like Dragon Ball should being treated better.

Take for example the MCU Movies by Marvel or more particular the Spider-Man franchise. Since 2018 it had 2 great playstation games, Marvel's Spider-Man 1 and Miles Morales, with the 3rd game already in development and 2 great movies (Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse and Spider-Man: No Way Home), with the 3rd movie already in development too. Quantity and quality. That's how you run a franchise that makes money.

What we got since 2018 that had some quality ? (and yeah I'm already ignoring the low production quality that the last main anime of this big franchise had in all arcs, except the last one)

DBS Broly movie + DBFZ ports and DLC, if we wanna count the latter. That's it. Whatever the top dogs are thinking doesn't seem the right approach, because even if DBS 2 comes out with great quality we shouldn't have been without a proper anime for so long. If the DB franchise makes more money than others, it should have priority in releasing something good over them (Example: Dragon Quest: The Adventure of Dai remake). Simple as that.

[HeroR]

It isn't just forums. We're talking about people who live in the country in question.

I live in the US but no way to know what the average American feels about the DBS manga. If I asked people in the street to conduct my own independent survey, I probably wouldn't get many responses. The only place I can communicate with other English speaking DB fans is online which usually isn't the casual audience. It's difficult to take your word for it that the few people you've spoken with represent the majority of Japanese fans without knowing how they obtained this information.

And there isn't any other Dragon Ball spin-off unless you mean the Dragon Ball Heroes manga. Are we doing that comparison to an official sequel? And that is what Super is, an official sequel, not a spin-off.

I don't know of many manga series that have sequels to compare it to. DBS was #38 last year and I think the only sequel in the 37 above it was called Daiya No Ace II. I checked and that it seems like it's drawn by the original author so DBS manga is the highest for a sequel drawn by a different artist.

That comparison doesn't really work because manga in Japan is a hell of a lot bigger than the US. Most Dragon Ball fans in the US didn't even read the original manga. Heck, most didn't even watched the original Dragon Ball. A better comparison would be asking how most people in the US feels about Star Wars.

We have Fist of the North Sky, Boruto, and Shaman King: Flowers are all official sequels. Boruto would be the most 1:1 comparison: https://www.fanverse.org/threads/naruto ... s.1162181/. Although Boruto is a little weird since the original author didn't write it until he came in later.

[HeroR]

The clear lack of interest in this movie compared to the interest of Broly.

Citation needed.

Look at how low the view count is for the trailers. Not even 3 million for any of them. The highest is only 2.9 million views for IGN trailer over 2 and a half months ago. I remember Broly's trailer getting more in a single day.

Then there's this embarrassment.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explor ... per%20hero

Even over the past three months, Super Hero is barely a blip on the radar.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explor ... per%20hero

Are we really used Youtube views? As someone who followed games, Youtube views rarely translates into sells.

OK, but so what? You're not the president of Toei Animation, nor (presumably) a stockholder.

I understand the interest in the financial side of things (as someone who's extensively covered the financial news of this franchise since before Bandai Namco was a thing), but at some point... like, to what end are you doing this? What's your investment?

I guess your investment is the overall success and health of the franchise? Right? That's what we all probably want?

But... again, so what? They're taking the opportunity to make a weird fun little side project movie thing. They almost certainly -- dare I say unlike a big lot of you here? -- have realistic expectations about how this is going to go. Everyone making this movie is well aware of what its probable reach and impact and revenue will be.

Not sure why this is considered a 'side movie'. It's been in the works since before Broly finished, it's getting a major theater released, and several events dedicated to it. Even the lighter tone shouldn't come as a surprised since they outright told us years ago that would be the direction of the next movie. Seems the only reason people think this is some side, pet project because it isn't Broly's level of fan-service and people losing their heads over CGI.

[Skar]

That comparison doesn't really work because manga in Japan is a hell of a lot bigger than the US. Most Dragon Ball fans in the US didn't even read the original manga. Heck, most didn't even watched the original Dragon Ball. A better comparison would be asking how most people in the US feels about Star Wars.

I don't think you understand what I meant. I could ask random people about SW or any American franchise but an average person like me probably won't discover anything that official polls haven't already. You're the only person I've seen making these claims so I'm curious how your friends obtained this information. Are they conducting their own surveys or asking random people in the streets? It's the internet so you can't really expect someone to take your word for it without any actual evidence.

We have Fist of the North Sky, Boruto, and Shaman King: Flowers are all official sequels. Boruto would be the most 1:1 comparison: https://www.fanverse.org/threads/naruto ... s.1162181/. Although Boruto is a little weird since the original author didn't write it until he came in later.

I couldn't find any sales numbers for Fist of the North Sky but Shaman King: Flowers and Boruto sold less. The only manga sequel I found that sold more the DBS manga in a year as the one I mentioned but that was barely 30% more.

[GhostEmperorX]

I have to admit I often question myself the competency of the people holding the rights of this franchise. A moneymaker franchise like Dragon Ball should being treated better.

If this was actually adhered to, you’d have a good official release of the original series (one time for all) and the Broadcast Audio wouldn’t have been thrown away.
But sadly this is Toei we’re talking about, they generally don’t treat their money makers half as well as competent companies (Sunrise, Tsuburaya, etc) do.

[HeroR]

That comparison doesn't really work because manga in Japan is a hell of a lot bigger than the US. Most Dragon Ball fans in the US didn't even read the original manga. Heck, most didn't even watched the original Dragon Ball. A better comparison would be asking how most people in the US feels about Star Wars.

I don't think you understand what I meant. I could ask random people about SW or any American franchise but an average person like me probably won't discover anything that official polls haven't already. You're the only person I've seen making these claims so I'm curious how your friends obtained this information. Are they conducting their own surveys or asking random people in the streets? It's the internet so you can't really expect someone to take your word for it without any actual evidence.

We have Fist of the North Sky, Boruto, and Shaman King: Flowers are all official sequels. Boruto would be the most 1:1 comparison: https://www.fanverse.org/threads/naruto ... s.1162181/. Although Boruto is a little weird since the original author didn't write it until he came in later.

I couldn't find any sales numbers for Fist of the North Sky but Shaman King: Flowers and Boruto sold less. The only manga sequel I found that sold more the DBS manga in a year as the one I mentioned but that was barely 30% more.

I’m only repeated what has been told. This isn’t new information to people who followed the well-known Dokkan translators or people who live in Japan. Even freaking Greekdom has people on his streams who said the same things I’ve heard from the Garcha community. And you don’t really need polls when you have sale data showing you that the Super manga isn’t that popular for a franchise like Dragon Ball.

Keep in mind, Dragon Ball as a property makes more money than One Piece in Japan who was Toei’s main money maker for over a decade. It even beats Gundum. And One Piece has a manga that sells within the Top 3 every year, an anime that has been ongoing since 2001, and several movies with one coming out next year with the recent ones being written by Oda. Despite all of this, Dragon Ball still beats it. That is how powerful the Dragon Ball brand is. It makes more money than One Piece with barely doing anything.

[TheSaiyanGod]

And you don’t really need polls when you have sale data showing you that the Super manga isn’t that popular for a franchise like Dragon Ball.

I am almost sure that DBS is doing fine for a VJUMP manga (monthly spin off) and without anime (for years at this point) or movies to boost the sales. Last year the DBS manga sold more than 1 million copies. To compare, Boruto even with an on going anime (and with the series still pretty fresh on people's mind since Naruto ended in 2014 and has been getting content every year since) could not even cross the 900k mark. And these are the Japanese numbers. I already saw several volumes leading sales in other countries like France for example

It's nothing groundbreaking but it's fine

[GhostEmperorX]

Any info about the new guy? If he ever worked in a famous anime or such? I know for some people it doesn't matter, but for me soundtrack is a big deal for Dragon Ball.

He’s worked on Eureka Seven for one, and while he’s new to DB he isn’t new to either Toei or the business.
Apparently he’s also composed material for the Imperial family as well, or something along those lines, need to check later.

[fleahop]

...It makes more money than One Piece with barely doing anything.

This is the answer to a lot of questions about why Toei half-asses Dragon Ball. Because they can lol.

Spoiler:

Citation needed.

Look at how low the view count is for the trailers. Not even 3 million for any of them. The highest is only 2.9 million views for IGN trailer over 2 and a half months ago. I remember Broly's trailer getting more in a single day.

Then there's this embarrassment.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explor ... per%20hero

Even over the past three months, Super Hero is barely a blip on the radar.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explor ... per%20hero

Are we really used Youtube views? As someone who followed games, Youtube views rarely translates into sells.

OK, but so what? You're not the president of Toei Animation, nor (presumably) a stockholder.

I understand the interest in the financial side of things (as someone who's extensively covered the financial news of this franchise since before Bandai Namco was a thing), but at some point... like, to what end are you doing this? What's your investment?

I guess your investment is the overall success and health of the franchise? Right? That's what we all probably want?

But... again, so what? They're taking the opportunity to make a weird fun little side project movie thing. They almost certainly -- dare I say unlike a big lot of you here? -- have realistic expectations about how this is going to go. Everyone making this movie is well aware of what its probable reach and impact and revenue will be.

Not sure why this is considered a 'side movie'. It's been in the works since before Broly finished, it's getting a major theater released, and several events dedicated to it. Even the lighter tone shouldn't come as a surprised since they outright told us years ago that would be the direction of the next movie. Seems the only reason people think this is some side, pet project because it isn't Broly's level of fan-service and people losing their heads over CGI.

I feel this and think you're spot on. Though I do question the use of the CGI because a company like Toei definitely knows how that will be perceived with the marketing. It all does feel like a project, but it's not "little" by any means compared to the vast majority of DB Movies they have released.

I truly think many people are going to be pleasantly surprised by this film.

[HeroR]

...It makes more money than One Piece with barely doing anything.

This is the answer to a lot of questions about why Toei half-asses Dragon Ball. Because they can lol.

Spoiler:

Look at how low the view count is for the trailers. Not even 3 million for any of them. The highest is only 2.9 million views for IGN trailer over 2 and a half months ago. I remember Broly's trailer getting more in a single day.

Then there's this embarrassment.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explor ... per%20hero

Even over the past three months, Super Hero is barely a blip on the radar.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explor ... per%20hero

Are we really used Youtube views? As someone who followed games, Youtube views rarely translates into sells.

OK, but so what? You're not the president of Toei Animation, nor (presumably) a stockholder.

I understand the interest in the financial side of things (as someone who's extensively covered the financial news of this franchise since before Bandai Namco was a thing), but at some point... like, to what end are you doing this? What's your investment?

I guess your investment is the overall success and health of the franchise? Right? That's what we all probably want?

But... again, so what? They're taking the opportunity to make a weird fun little side project movie thing. They almost certainly -- dare I say unlike a big lot of you here? -- have realistic expectations about how this is going to go. Everyone making this movie is well aware of what its probable reach and impact and revenue will be.

Not sure why this is considered a 'side movie'. It's been in the works since before Broly finished, it's getting a major theater released, and several events dedicated to it. Even the lighter tone shouldn't come as a surprised since they outright told us years ago that would be the direction of the next movie. Seems the only reason people think this is some side, pet project because it isn't Broly's level of fan-service and people losing their heads over CGI.

I feel this and think you're spot on. Though I do question the use of the CGI because a company like Toei definitely knows how that will be perceived with the marketing. It all does feel like a project, but it's not "little" by any means compared to the vast majority of DB Movies they have released.

I truly think many people are going to be pleasantly surprised by this film.

Dragon Ball isn't really half ass. Super was an expensive show to maintain because of how rushed it was brought into being and CGI is also freaking expensive and the safest thing Toei could have done was just another Broly-type movie. Half-ass to me would be if they basically copy pasta Broly and made Cooler canon.

While we can sit here and talking about the twenty something theories about why this is 3D, I think we have to look at this from a different POV. Someone on Youtube made a great point that for us, meaning people in the US mostly, loved anime because it's one of the last strongholds of 2D animation. These days, everything is CGI, even the cheap cartoons. So when we see Japan doing anything CGI, we get upset because 3D is our statue quo and Japanese 3D is noticeable inferior to what we're used to. It's like getting off-brand cereal after getting fresh oatmeal every morning.

However, from the Japanese's POV, 2D is as common as dirt. The only time they get to see high-tier CGI is from export movies. To them, they must feel like twenty years behind. The world has embraced 3D, while they're still with hand drawings. They would loved to have an anime movie like Frozen or something like Spiderverse.

And you don’t really need polls when you have sale data showing you that the Super manga isn’t that popular for a franchise like Dragon Ball.

I am almost sure that DBS is doing fine for a VJUMP manga (monthly spin off) and without anime (for years at this point) or movies to boost the sales. Last year the DBS manga sold more than 1 million copies. To compare, Boruto even with an on going anime (and with the series still pretty fresh on people's mind since Naruto ended in 2014 and has been getting content every year since) could not even cross the 900k mark. And these are the Japanese numbers. I already saw several volumes leading sales in other countries like France for example

It's nothing groundbreaking but it's fine

Doing fine isn't the same as being particularly popular. And it also isn't a spin-off, it's an official sequel that has outline story arcs from the original author. And as I pointed out, Boruto is weird in that it's an official sequel, but the original author wasn't part of it until years into its run. I also find it weird you say 'eries still pretty fresh on people's mind since Naruto ended in 2014 ' when the Super anime ended only in 2018 with a big movie at the end of the year.

As I said, Dragon Ball as a name craps on Naruto's brand since it beats One Piece at its peak. So it isn't surprising it does better, but for having such a powerful brand and having the original author's name on the manga title, the Super manga isn't catching a lot of people's attention. The reasons are pretty complex since it a) doesn't really captures the old generation since it isn't seen as Toriyama's Dragon Ball, b) it isn't catching the new generation like the anime did, c) it gets almost no marketing which leads to b. Like the manga got two original story arcs and you would be forgiven for not knowing they exist because they get no merch (no 'spoilers' don't count since Japan as a whole don't care about spoilers). Even the stuff that doesn't fall under spoilers don't get anything like Super Saiyan Black, Super Saiyan God Vegeta not happening until the Broly movie, the Completed Blue forms, Hit without his skirt, buff Cabba, or the manga version of Berserk Kale. Honestly, the lack of Super manga merch still baffles me since that is just money left on the table.

[Mr_CINDER]

That comparison doesn't really work because manga in Japan is a hell of a lot bigger than the US. Most Dragon Ball fans in the US didn't even read the original manga. Heck, most didn't even watched the original Dragon Ball. A better comparison would be asking how most people in the US feels about Star Wars.

I don't think you understand what I meant. I could ask random people about SW or any American franchise but an average person like me probably won't discover anything that official polls haven't already. You're the only person I've seen making these claims so I'm curious how your friends obtained this information. Are they conducting their own surveys or asking random people in the streets? It's the internet so you can't really expect someone to take your word for it without any actual evidence.

We have Fist of the North Sky, Boruto, and Shaman King: Flowers are all official sequels. Boruto would be the most 1:1 comparison: https://www.fanverse.org/threads/naruto ... s.1162181/. Although Boruto is a little weird since the original author didn't write it until he came in later.

I couldn't find any sales numbers for Fist of the North Sky but Shaman King: Flowers and Boruto sold less. The only manga sequel I found that sold more the DBS manga in a year as the one I mentioned but that was barely 30% more.

I’m only repeated what has been told. This isn’t new information to people who followed the well-known Dokkan translators or people who live in Japan. Even freaking Greekdom has people on his streams who said the same things I’ve heard from the Garcha community. And you don’t really need polls when you have sale data showing you that the Super manga isn’t that popular for a franchise like Dragon Ball.

Keep in mind, Dragon Ball as a property makes more money than One Piece in Japan who was Toei’s main money maker for over a decade. It even beats Gundum. And One Piece has a manga that sells within the Top 3 every year, an anime that has been ongoing since 2001, and several movies with one coming out next year with the recent ones being written by Oda. Despite all of this, Dragon Ball still beats it. That is how powerful the Dragon Ball brand is. It makes more money than One Piece with barely doing anything.

Dragon Ball is the one of the highest grossing media franchise in history and THE highest grossing media franchise for Toei and Shuiesha.
every Shueisha properties are-
Dragon Ball- 27.7 billion
YU GI OH!!- 17.1 billion
Fist Of The North Star- 14.8 bilion
One Piece- 12.7 billion.
Naruto- 3.62 billion
It could be the reason they know regardless what they put out it will sell.

[Skar]

I’m only repeated what has been told. This isn’t new information to people who followed the well-known Dokkan translators or people who live in Japan. Even freaking Greekdom has people on his streams who said the same things I’ve heard from the Garcha community. And you don’t really need polls when you have sale data showing you that the Super manga isn’t that popular for a franchise like Dragon Ball.

Keep in mind, Dragon Ball as a property makes more money than One Piece in Japan who was Toei’s main money maker for over a decade. It even beats Gundum. And One Piece has a manga that sells within the Top 3 every year, an anime that has been ongoing since 2001, and several movies with one coming out next year with the recent ones being written by Oda. Despite all of this, Dragon Ball still beats it. That is how powerful the Dragon Ball brand is. It makes more money than One Piece with barely doing anything.

Well saying "I heard this from some people" still isn't considered good evidence online. We have no way know how many people you've heard it from so it's hard to believe it represents everyone who does buy it or reads it online. It might not represent any of that audience at all if the few people you've spoken with might not actually be buying it. There were only a handful of manga sequels I could find that reached one million copies per year and none that went over two million. I don't know if there's evidence any kind of manga sequel could sell more than that.

[ObnoxiousNamek]

Dunno why people are focusing so much on sales metrics here. Who cares?

I'm just excited to have a story that's predominantly and near exclusively written by Toriyama. It's been years since Broly, so we haven't had it in a long time. I don't think it's any coincidence that I tend to enjoy modern DB the most when the OG is at the helm.

People mention sales because unfortunately due to AniTubers they have created a culture in the anime community that numbers matter more than anything (similar to how music record labels do) & if your trailers/streams/ sales aren’t doing good numbers your a failure. Which is why recently some of them were calling that latest MHA movie a failure cause their last movie made 13 million & World Heroes Mission only made 9 mill in the US even though that film is the highest in their franchise. It’s silly but that’s the way it’s become


Also I disagree modern Toriyama stories aside from BOG & Broly which were decent have not been up to par when compared to his previous older stuff.

Yup, same. When the Broly movie was announced I was really kind of bummed. Reviving a boring character from an awful Toei film? No thanks! I was pleasantly surprised though, and the art was fantastic. This time around... I'm more excited by the premise, but not very excited by the art.

Yeah cause reviving an old boring enemy group and giving them a yet another android asspull power up to be automatically near or on current protagonist levels is sooo much better . Thats just as bad as the current arc where anyone can wish to be the strongest. So you can build a robot from earth tech to be near god level just like that Yet that premise is exciting ? Atleast Broly had a plausible reason why he grew as strong as he did.

I have to admit I often question myself the competency of the people holding the rights of this franchise. A moneymaker franchise like Dragon Ball should being treated better.
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Agreed the fact they even consider dropping this superhero trash after DB gave Toei its most successful film to date says a lot.

To put it in perspective that would be like if Marvel did the 1st Avengers and then afterwords dropped a movie like Eternals or Thor: Darkworld in 2015 instead of Age of Ultron.

[HeroR]

I’m only repeated what has been told. This isn’t new information to people who followed the well-known Dokkan translators or people who live in Japan. Even freaking Greekdom has people on his streams who said the same things I’ve heard from the Garcha community. And you don’t really need polls when you have sale data showing you that the Super manga isn’t that popular for a franchise like Dragon Ball.

Keep in mind, Dragon Ball as a property makes more money than One Piece in Japan who was Toei’s main money maker for over a decade. It even beats Gundum. And One Piece has a manga that sells within the Top 3 every year, an anime that has been ongoing since 2001, and several movies with one coming out next year with the recent ones being written by Oda. Despite all of this, Dragon Ball still beats it. That is how powerful the Dragon Ball brand is. It makes more money than One Piece with barely doing anything.

Well saying "I heard this from some people" still isn't considered good evidence online. We have no way know how many people you've heard it from so it's hard to believe it represents everyone who does buy it or reads it online. It might not represent any of that audience at all if the few people you've spoken with might not actually be buying it. There were only a handful of manga sequels I could find that reached one million copies per year and none that went over two million. I don't know if there's evidence any kind of manga sequel could sell more than that.

You're free not to believe me. As I said, even Geekdom can vouch for what I said about how old school fans see the Super manga.

And using the other manga sequels for reference will always be flawed because none of them are closed to Dragon Ball's size in Japan. While I can't the Japanese sells right now, this is Dragon Ball's worldwide grossing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_h ... franchises

It's basically tied with Batman as a franchise. Naruto in comparison is tied with Cats.

Dragon Ball is the one of the highest grossing media franchise in history and THE highest grossing media franchise for Toei and Shuiesha.
every Shueisha properties are-
Dragon Ball- 27.7 billion
YU GI OH!!- 17.1 billion
Fist Of The North Star- 14.8 bilion
One Piece- 12.7 billion.
Naruto- 3.62 billion
It could be the reason they know regardless what they put out it will sell.

That is what I'm saying. Comparing the Super manga with any sequel manga will never be a true 1:1 purely because of how big Dragon Ball is. It's a franchise on the level of Spiderman and Batman. Even if Boruto was super popular, it probably would still struggle to reach the Super manga sells numbers because Naruto as a franchise is nearly 10x smaller than Dragon Ball.

[Skar]

You're free not to believe me. As I said, even Geekdom can vouch for what I said about how old school fans see the Super manga.

And using the other manga sequels for reference will always be flawed because none of them are closed to Dragon Ball's size in Japan. While I can't the Japanese sells right now, this is Dragon Ball's worldwide grossing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_h ... franchises

It's basically tied with Batman as a franchise. Naruto in comparison is tied with Cats.

I understand DB is a huge franchise overall there aren't many manga sequels in general to compare it to. Most of DB's revenue seems to come from merchandising and video games. In terms of manga revenue, it's about 30% more than Naruto. It's difficult to have any kind of 1:1 comparison since a franchise like Doraemon is much smaller than DB overall but their films grossed more. Their highest is above Broly and most of their other films are above BoG and RoF. I don't think Detective Conan was on that list but most of their movies falled within the range of the last few DB movies with only one grossing over $100 million.

[HeroR]

You're free not to believe me. As I said, even Geekdom can vouch for what I said about how old school fans see the Super manga.

And using the other manga sequels for reference will always be flawed because none of them are closed to Dragon Ball's size in Japan. While I can't the Japanese sells right now, this is Dragon Ball's worldwide grossing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_h ... franchises

It's basically tied with Batman as a franchise. Naruto in comparison is tied with Cats.

I understand DB is a huge franchise overall there aren't many manga sequels in general to compare it to. Most of DB's revenue seems to come from merchandising and video games. In terms of manga revenue, it's about 30% more than Naruto. It's difficult to have any kind of 1:1 comparison since a franchise like Doraemon is much smaller than DB overall but their films grossed more. Their highest is above Broly and most of their other films are above BoG and RoF. I don't think Detective Conan was on that list but most of their movies falled within the range of the last few DB movies with only one grossing over $100 million.

That is where most money come from in a franchise. Dragon Ball Kai was considered a failure because the merch sells were low despite it having great TV ratings. Even One Piece makes more money off the merch than the actual manga.

You have to remember that before Battle of Gods, Dragon Ball movies were double-feature releases with only a slightly higher budget compared to the TV show and most of the movies were just reimagines of Z arcs with Broly, World Strongest, and Wrath of the Dragon being exceptions. Broly was honestly the first big blockbuster Dragon Ball movie. I don't even think Path to Power had a theater released despite it being an anniversary movie.

Detective Conan is one of those franchises that is super huge in Japan, but has almost no presence anywhere else. Which is why One Piece is fairly low despite being the king of Japan before Super.

Edit: Your post have made me realized something. They probably feel okay making a movie like Super Hero because Dragon Ball movies traditionally don't make that much money and instead makes almost all its profits from the merch (think of how much Fusion Reborn sold vs all the Super Gogeta figures). So even if this movie doesn't surpass Broly, they can still call it a success if the merch sells are good.

[Lord Beerus]

More voice actors announced who will be starring in the film

Miyu Irino plays Dr. Head (a brilliant scientist developing new androids)
Volcano Ōta plays Magenta (The president of Red Pharmaceuticals, the public face of the Red Ribbon Army)
Ryota Takeuchi plays Carmine (Magenta's poker-faced aide and driver)

[Mr_CINDER]

To put it in perspective that would be like if Marvel did the 1st Avengers and then afterwords dropped a movie like Eternals or Thor: Darkworld in 2015 instead of Age of Ultron.

There is no jump force universe (video game does not count) or share universe in SJ so the correct comparison would be after iron man 1 if marvel dropped a movie like Thor: Darkworld inmo.