MCDaveG wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:33 pm
I miss this in this manga, it's like watching some kid playing with action figures. Clack, clack, clack.
No stakes whatsoever. I would be really happy if they kill it.
Moro arc was interesting for being brand new and original material and there were some nice moments, linking to the lore and stories before and altough I had some criticisms on Moro himself in the end, I was really looking forward on what comes next.
With Granolah arc I am just thinking ''please, end it'' and I am seriously worried about the next arc, or rather, I don't really care.
Hard to believe that Toriyama has more involvement in this than GT.
Yeah and also, missing the cliffhangers at the end of the chapters.
I'm a little surprised to hear those two takes on the Moro and Granolah arcs, respectively, since I wind up being just the opposite. The Moro arc struck me as being the epitome of retread structure and material among all of
Super's arcs--more
DB just to be reminiscent of
DB; gotta stop the bad guy just to stop him--and while I'm not above enjoying that, it is what keeps it so far down on my list compared to other storylines so far.
Granolah and Vegeta's characterization here alone, let alone some of the new wrinkles for Goku with Bardock and the Heatas' internal dynamics, place my investment in the current storyline above it. As guest characters too, Granolah offers much more to immediately latch onto for me than Merus did. His characterization and arc dovetails more coherently with our main characters too.
So I'm not at all having a bad time month to month, and the absolute high points of Vegeta vs. Granolah are only a few chapters behind us (plus I thought the first round of Granolah vs. Gas was great spectacle). I do feel the disappointment others have that Toriyama seems to have gone back to his two-arc structure (setup followed by non-stop action) for
DBS here when it seems like this could have had longer legs though. Any other misgivings aside, that
is something I appreciate about Toyotaro's plotting for Moro. I'm also sympathetic to the idea that characterization and action haven't always felt as lovingly intertwined here as they are at
DB's best, though I thought Vegeta vs. Granolah nailed that and, again, it's not so far back.
I'm increasingly curious about what the original pitch for this arc looked like and if it were a bit more structurally complex before Toriyama's pass. On the other hand, I appreciate the distinctive weirdness he adds. Maybe there's a happy medium that can be hit next time.
I second wanting to shake up the cast a bit, but the secret sauce is Gohan and Vegeta together, IMO.