OG Dragon Ball and why one shouldnt mind if people skip it

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Re: OG Dragon Ball and why one shouldnt mind if people skip it

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:40 pm

Just say North America then surely...

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Post by Saiya6Cit » Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:04 am

At the end it's like VegettoEX said, the industry is created for people to hook up at tany time.

Their sole purpose is to sell merchandise, let's face it. Having that said, In my opinion any Dragon Ball fan who praises him/herself to be so, MUST both read the manga DB and DBZ manga and watch the animes, entirely. Otherwise they would be like... posers.

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Post by Zephyr » Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:15 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:40 pm Just say North America then surely...
But Mexico is part of North America.

"Anglo America" might've made more sense? idk

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Re: OG Dragon Ball and why one shouldnt mind if people skip it

Post by Kid Buu » Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:46 pm

Zephyr wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:15 pm
Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:40 pm Just say North America then surely...
But Mexico is part of North America.
As are El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, etc.
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Post by ABED » Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:20 pm

Saiya6Cit wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:04 am At the end it's like VegettoEX said, the industry is created for people to hook up at tany time.

Their sole purpose is to sell merchandise, let's face it. Having that said, In my opinion any Dragon Ball fan who praises him/herself to be so, MUST both read the manga DB and DBZ manga and watch the animes, entirely. Otherwise they would be like... posers.
I don't think that's what he said or meant. The reason DB and stories like it are easy to jump into is because most long running stories are made that way in order to gain new fans along the way. It's not about merchandising, despite what Yogurt tells us.
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Re: OG Dragon Ball and why one shouldnt mind if people skip it

Post by Shinsa » Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:19 pm

ABED wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:20 pm
Saiya6Cit wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:04 am At the end it's like VegettoEX said, the industry is created for people to hook up at tany time.

Their sole purpose is to sell merchandise, let's face it. Having that said, In my opinion any Dragon Ball fan who praises him/herself to be so, MUST both read the manga DB and DBZ manga and watch the animes, entirely. Otherwise they would be like... posers.
I don't think that's what he said or meant. The reason DB and stories like it are easy to jump into is because most long running stories are made that way in order to gain new fans along the way. It's not about merchandising, despite what Yogurt tells us.
I think its both and how Super was handled is evidence of that....Make a show that's easy to follow so people can get hooked, change something super simple like blue hair to sell new toys and merch.

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Post by ABED » Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:08 pm

That may also be true, but that wasn't Mike's point is all I was saying.
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Re: OG Dragon Ball and why one shouldnt mind if people skip it

Post by dragonmagico » Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:06 pm

imagine caring how other people watch children's cartoons...

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Post by capsulecorp » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:33 pm

Imagine caring about other people caring about children's cartoons, and so on.

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Post by Scientist Fu » Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:14 pm

I forced myself to read Dragon Ball (it was boring but fun at the same time, maybe because the characters were not what I was looking for, I'm not a huge fan of Z or S either, I just liked the universe, the atmosphere, the art style. I'm more into SDBH) and I think that it's a crucial step to take if people really want to exchange their thoughts/their opinions with other fans about the story, the development of the characters, the flaws etc etc and most importantly understand what the others are talking about so you can have a reasonable conversation with them and not feel "rejected". As someone who ignored the first part of DB for a loooong time, it was really annoying to see that a lot of fans were talking about something you had no knowledge about so your only option was to remain silent and just watch them communicate and hope for them to jump on DBS (or Z or about something you knew) so you could join the conversation too.

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Post by Civic » Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:17 pm

The first episode of DBZ I ever saw was Full Power Frieza facing off against SSJ Goku on a lava covered Namek, so I didn't even start at the beginning of DBZ. I haven't seen DB, but I do own it on DVD and plan to watch it. I haven't got there yet, I think it's largely because having been a fan of Dragon Ball for >20 years, I already know all the major story beats of it. I appreciate that isn't the same as watching it and experiencing it of course, but I'm one of those people who won't rush to watch something if I already know what's going to happen. Part of watching things for me is the discovery.

However I do want to watch it all, to see how the original gang got together and their adventures. I'm just not in a big hurry to see it.

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Post by Anonymous Friend » Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:20 pm

dragonmagico wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:06 pm imagine caring how other people watch children's cartoons...
If someone is purposefully not watching OGDB but goes on about how much of a fan they are, I will think less of their fandom.


And if you get butthurt over that, then I gotta ask ... Why do you care so much about what RandomForumUser896 thinks about your watch habits? Get over it and move on with your life.
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Re: OG Dragon Ball and why one shouldnt mind if people skip it

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:17 pm

Ok, but I will then think you are an asshole and if you care sheesh! Get over it!

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Post by ABED » Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:19 pm

Civic wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:17 pm The first episode of DBZ I ever saw was Full Power Frieza facing off against SSJ Goku on a lava covered Namek, so I didn't even start at the beginning of DBZ. I haven't seen DB, but I do own it on DVD and plan to watch it. I haven't got there yet, I think it's largely because having been a fan of Dragon Ball for >20 years, I already know all the major story beats of it. I appreciate that isn't the same as watching it and experiencing it of course, but I'm one of those people who won't rush to watch something if I already know what's going to happen. Part of watching things for me is the discovery.

However I do want to watch it all, to see how the original gang got together and their adventures. I'm just not in a big hurry to see it.
But that's not the same as experiencing it. Stories are meant to be experienced.
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Re: OG Dragon Ball and why one shouldnt mind if people skip it

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:20 pm

GOD! ABED they already say they plan to watch it! Dont beat a dead horse.

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Post by JulieYBM » Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:49 pm

Anonymous Friend wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:20 pm
dragonmagico wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:06 pm imagine caring how other people watch children's cartoons...
If someone is purposefully not watching OGDB but goes on about how much of a fan they are, I will think less of their fandom.


And if you get butthurt over that, then I gotta ask ... Why do you care so much about what RandomForumUser896 thinks about your watch habits? Get over it and move on with your life.
This is such a melodramatic thing to say. People are busy. So what if they just cannot or do not want to watch a dumb cartoon? Are the words 'this less of their fandom' really something you need to even think about?
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Re: OG Dragon Ball and why one shouldnt mind if people skip it

Post by Civic » Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:44 pm

ABED wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:19 pm
Civic wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:17 pm The first episode of DBZ I ever saw was Full Power Frieza facing off against SSJ Goku on a lava covered Namek, so I didn't even start at the beginning of DBZ. I haven't seen DB, but I do own it on DVD and plan to watch it. I haven't got there yet, I think it's largely because having been a fan of Dragon Ball for >20 years, I already know all the major story beats of it. I appreciate that isn't the same as watching it and experiencing it of course, but I'm one of those people who won't rush to watch something if I already know what's going to happen. Part of watching things for me is the discovery.

However I do want to watch it all, to see how the original gang got together and their adventures. I'm just not in a big hurry to see it.
But that's not the same as experiencing it. Stories are meant to be experienced.
I know that. Hence the 'I appreciate that isn't the same as watching it and experiencing it of course' in my original reply.

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Post by ABED » Fri Feb 25, 2022 5:39 am

Civic wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:44 pm
ABED wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:19 pm
Civic wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:17 pm The first episode of DBZ I ever saw was Full Power Frieza facing off against SSJ Goku on a lava covered Namek, so I didn't even start at the beginning of DBZ. I haven't seen DB, but I do own it on DVD and plan to watch it. I haven't got there yet, I think it's largely because having been a fan of Dragon Ball for >20 years, I already know all the major story beats of it. I appreciate that isn't the same as watching it and experiencing it of course, but I'm one of those people who won't rush to watch something if I already know what's going to happen. Part of watching things for me is the discovery.

However I do want to watch it all, to see how the original gang got together and their adventures. I'm just not in a big hurry to see it.
But that's not the same as experiencing it. Stories are meant to be experienced.
I know that. Hence the 'I appreciate that isn't the same as watching it and experiencing it of course' in my original reply.
And if part of watching things is the discevery, that still applies in this situation. You will discover how it goes down. It's the difference between an outline and a story. Execution is everything.
The biggest truths aren't original. The truth is ketchup. It's Jim Belushi. Its job isn't to blow our minds. It's to be within reach.
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Re: OG Dragon Ball and why one shouldnt mind if people skip it

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:53 am

They understand. They know. They will watch. Stop beating the dead horse!

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Post by ABED » Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:02 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:53 am They understand. They know. They will watch. Stop beating the dead horse!
Do they?!

Because for whatever reason there's this bizarre "I have not interest in going back beyond some arbitrary point". Most people don't see DB from the beginning. Hell, I'd be willing to bet that many didn't start with DBZ from the beginning. Yet they will go back to DBZ episode 1. I get that it's the beginning of DBZ but it's arbitrary that that would be the furthest they'd go back.
The biggest truths aren't original. The truth is ketchup. It's Jim Belushi. Its job isn't to blow our minds. It's to be within reach.
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