Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 82 - Official Discussion Thread

[Xeogran]

It seems that the Granolah arc follows almost directly on from the Moro arc, what with Jaco going back to retrieve 7-3's remains when he realises he probably should have done that in the first place.

It's not much, but there was a Timeskip from Moro -> Granolah arc

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[KentMan]

It seems that the Granolah arc follows almost directly on from the Moro arc, what with Jaco going back to retrieve 7-3's remains when he realises he probably should have done that in the first place.

It's not much, but there was a Timeskip from Moro -> Granolah arc

Spoiler:

Months should be a subtle jab at the fact that we wait one month for a chapter

[GreatSaiyaman123]

There's also the weeks Granolah took traveling from Cereal to the Heeter's base to Zuno's planet, when Vegeta was training with Beerus at the same time. Plus the time it took them to go from Earth to Cereal on the Heeter's ship. All in all should be a several months gap, but not quite a year yet.

[kemuri07]

And much like Broly, I highly doubt that Super Hero will contain any explicit mentions of Moro or Granollah. Toei seems particularly cagey about canon, and its probably in their best interest to not declare anything official about whether or not these movies are canon with the anime or the manga.

Basically, I'm just gonna assume that these movies take place in their own continuity.

[JulieYBM]

I imagine that they're just waiting to adapt the Moro and Granola arcs whenever they have time to do so as a TV cartoon, so until then they're just not mentioning them.

[Koitsukai]

With Pan that grown up, and the fact that Granola has 3 years left, I'm assuming SH takes place right after his death. So, picking up where this arc leaves off.

I'd say the bout at Cereal-sei takes place like 6 months after the Moro arc. And that arc lasted like 3 months or so, it might've been almost a year between Broly and chapter 82.

[kemuri07]

With Pan that grown up, and the fact that Granola has 3 years left, I'm assuming SH takes place right after his death. So, picking up where this arc leaves off.

I'd say the bout at Cereal-sei takes place like 6 months after the Moro arc. And that arc lasted like 3 months or so, it might've been almost a year between Broly and chapter 82.

Like I said, I don't think its going to provide much context over what is canon and what is not so I wouldn't worry about it too much. The fact that SH is happening during some unspecified moment before EoZ is really just a way for the movie to not really worry about dealing with any fallout from the Granollah arc. Basically, I don't expect ALL EGO Vegeta making an appearance or anything else specific to Moro or Granollah.

[Skar]

With Pan that grown up, and the fact that Granola has 3 years left, I'm assuming SH takes place right after his death. So, picking up where this arc leaves off.

It depends if we get an official year for when the Granolah arc takes place. Herms estimated that the end of the Moro arc was in 781 so Granolah's three years would be up in 784 and a year or two after Super Hero. The manga might not necessarily have to show Granolah's death or could reverse the wish since his story will probably be over after this arc.

[Grimlock]

Toei seems particularly cagey about canon, and its probably in their best interest to not declare anything official about whether or not these movies are canon with the anime or the manga.

Toei is a company that adapts mangas into animes. I doubt they have the right to do so anyway. You can expect any sort of declaration about canonicity from Shueisha or Toriyama.

Basically, I'm just gonna assume that these movies take place in their own continuity.

There's no need to assume something that is quite evident. Manga is its own thing, anime its own thing and the movies its own thing. You can't make any mix among them.

[OLKv3]

What if this arc doesn't take place after the new Dragonball Super hero movie? What if Super Hero is before Granolah arc? Or do you think Toyotaro can wrap up the saga before April?

Not with this you see how Pan looks here

Isn't that after Moro arc? We haven't seen Pan, Trunks or Goten in Granolah's arc yet, have we?

That's the final chapter of the Moro arc. We had a timeskip after that arc. Goku and Vegeta spent a while training with Beerus and Whis. So it's possible everyone on Earth is older to match Super Hero

[mute_proxy]

Not with this you see how Pan looks here

Spoiler:

Isn't that after Moro arc? We haven't seen Pan, Trunks or Goten in Granolah's arc yet, have we?

That's the final chapter of the Moro arc. We had a timeskip after that arc. Goku and Vegeta spent a while training with Beerus and Whis. So it's possible everyone on Earth is older to match Super Hero

The timeskip is a few months (there's a panel saying that right before the Granolah arc starts), not 2.5 - 3 years. It's definitely not before Granolah.

[Grimlock]

Oh boy, here we go again!

Time to look forward to the next chapter and see what else Toyotaro has in store for me. As always, please don't disappoint me, mister Toyotaro. Give me a full fight, not just pieces of it!

[YamiGoku]

LOL Goku really teleported to Monaka!

[Hugo Boss]

I liked the sneak-peek, I wasn’t expecting Toyotaro to make such a homage to Monaka at this point. And it seems Goku is teleporting to locations where there are galactic patrollers or maybe it’s a coincidence.

[Jack Bz]

I love these drafts. I didn't expect this fight to start being a full on comedy, but it's certainly something that's been lacking recently.

[chitarra10]

And much like Broly, I highly doubt that Super Hero will contain any explicit mentions of Moro or Granollah. Toei seems particularly cagey about canon, and its probably in their best interest to not declare anything official about whether or not these movies are canon with the anime or the manga.

Basically, I'm just gonna assume that these movies take place in their own continuity.

They did say at both of the cons when they talked about this movie, including the one where there's an 8-hour video of the whole thing on YouTube, that the new movie is canon, so it's possible that they might. However those stories haven't been animated yet, and we have no idea when they're gonna get around to the DBS 2 that they've been saying they're gonna do for like the last 4 years, so it's also more possible that they won't.

[chitarra10]

I love these drafts. I didn't expect this fight to start being a full on comedy, but it's certainly something that's been lacking recently.

It's pretty fitting as well because both of the comedic moments that have been spilled so far have been about humiliating Gas, and humiliating an opponent is something that Goku quite often does to enemies that fight dirty and are disrespectful of the "rules" of a fair fight.

[FortuneSSJ]

I like how SSB Goku vs Gas battle is going through different planets, while we see familiar faces. Completely forgot Monaka existed.
Looks like we will also see more of Bardock vs Gas.

Excited for this chapter!

[Magnificent Ponta]

Well, that was a joyous little preview. I was expecting a number of cameos, but I wasn't expecting them to be quite so interactive (particularly Gas landing in the Galactic King's bath). It's nice to see some of the levity we saw at the end of the last Chapter carried through into this one.

Also looking forward to seeing the Bardock thread picked back up properly, so we can get a better idea of how it relates. Given the last time we saw anything from it in Chapter 80, Gas was affected more by the memory than by anything that was done to him in the present fight, it's entirely possible that (at least part of) Goku's play here is to try to make Gas beat himself. Which would fit, given that he's the strongest. Who better to beat him?

[ChronoTwigger]

I suppose Goku spotted some link between Gas and Elec, and so Bardock defeated Gas by knocking out Elec.
Granola will do it. That will match the "morale" of Gas of being stronger as having family ties, that indeed was his weakness.
We must consider that Bardock hadn't any special transformation, noticeable skill or extra training, so he must have been able to defeat Gas by using "normal" sayan powers, and not even the teleportation, so teleport is not part of the winning method. To notice Bardock spared Gas and Elec, so nothing exceptionally strong here like some killing beam or whatever. And nothing Goku can recycle to beat every other fighter from now onward (that for narrative purposes).
Let's see, I was right with Monaka, maybe I'll do my third right prediction. That mean that I *finally* entered the correct Super mood (after so much time XD XD).