Daman Mills issue

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

Frankly, given how many years have passed since these things are said to have happened between Daman and this guy Duncan i don’t see it being pursued in court. Assuming the statute of limitations and the age of consent are both a factor here. I could potentially see a lawsuit of some sort coming (though there’s no guarantee on that either) but otherwise it doesn’t really seem like much will happen beyond that. As others have said in here at this point i just don’t see Daman being prosecuted criminally.

[JulieYBM]

The cops are unlikely to do anything. All Duncan can hope is to get his story out there in hopes that it protects potential future victims.

They can be like that.

When my mom was domestically abused, the cops didn't do anything. And they corrected me and said 'alleged domestic abuse' to us. Scumbags.

I am happy this person is getting their story out so this doesn't have to happen again. I hope we learn more and more people step forward, if there are any more.

Yeah, ACAB.

In general, cops don't serve anyone but wealthy property owners. They don't have a good track record for sexual assault at all.

[PurestEvil]

law & order SVU? more like law & order sucks 2 b u

[JulieYBM]

law & order SVU? more like law & order sucks 2 b u

One of my earliest exposure to transgender people was in SVU. It was the episode where they force femmed a kid after accidentally cutting off his dick and then made him fuck his twin brother. I stayed in the closet for another ten-plus years.

Anyway, it's a shit show and it hates you and me and loves cops.

[PurestEvil]

law & order SVU? more like law & order sucks 2 b u

One of my earliest exposure to transgender people was in SVU. It was the episode where they force femmed a kid after accidentally cutting off his dick and then made him fuck his twin brother. I stayed in the closet for another ten-plus years.

Anyway, it's a shit show and it hates you and me and loves cops.

Wasn't that a "ripped from the headlines" episode based on the John Money controversy involving the Reimer siblings?

[VegettoEX]

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[JulieYBM]

EDIT: Mike made his post while I was writing this post. I didn't want to abandon all this text I wrote so I'm keeping it as-is but will not be replying to any replies to it in this thread.

Spoiler:

law & order SVU? more like law & order sucks 2 b u

One of my earliest exposure to transgender people was in SVU. It was the episode where they force femmed a kid after accidentally cutting off his dick and then made him fuck his twin brother. I stayed in the closet for another ten-plus years.

Anyway, it's a shit show and it hates you and me and loves cops.

Wasn't that a "ripped from the headlines" episode based on the John Money controversy involving the Reimer siblings?

Yup, I learned about that a while later. Weird flex of them to pull considering most of the time they have all their trans characters be sex workers who they make look or sound unflattering.

Or that time they had a prop--I mean, trans teen storyline with a trans girl who was paralyzed after being hit off a bridge by another student. And then she died at the end of the episode where she served her purpose to be trauma porn for the cis audience.

Ooh, remember the episode about the pre-op trans girl who killed a guy and then tried to cover it up so that her transphobic and homophobic cishet boyfriend wouldn't find out that she had a dick and was trans? And then the detectives out her and said boyfriend goes apeshit?

Not only do real life cops hate women and rape victims but so do the fictional ones we're meant to love and relate to!

Sorry, this went off on a real tangent. My point is: Considering how male rape is treated in real life and in fiction I'm not sure going to the cops would work. I'm sure a quick Google search can bring up statistics on the subject. I can't subject myself to that right now.

Anyway, I hope things don't get worse.

[WittyUsername]

Has Daman Mills even really voiced Freeza in anything outside of FighterZ? I know he filled in for Ayres a few times in the broadcast version of DBS, but weren’t his lines redubbed by Ayres for the home media release?

He voiced Frieza in the Tournament of Power - the first half of that season.

But his lines weren’t redubbed by Chris Ayres for the home media release?

[Aim]

But there are laws where these grey areas are accounted for. They're called Romeo and Juliet laws or European age of consent laws. You're severely underestimating the extent young people mature earlier in modern times and the degree of agency they can have over their own body. You're taking away people's body autonomy by forbidding relationships based on arbitrary reasons.

As far as I know Romeo and Juliet laws no not cover a 6 year age gap, that is enormous between a typical 16 year old and a 20 year old.

We have laws like this in place for a reason, a minor can technically say to an adult they want to have sex and mean it, thus they end up having sex, this is still a form of rape. We limit bodily autonomy based on the current conditions, which is we know there is a development gap typically between adolescence and adulthood. Very rarely is it a youngster who will have power over the adult. You’re purposely looking for “whatabouts” to prove a point, I’m telling you I don’t give a fuck, because with your logic in place abuse would take place far more often than it does. In a world where there’s education around relationships and males aren’t nearly as predatory on average as they are now, I would agree with you, but we do not live in that world yet.

There is no significant difference between someone in their first year of high-school and their last. Maybe you Americans have your own social cliques where everyone sticks to people in their years but it's not uncommon anywhere else in the world to see younger and older kids in the same social circle at school.

I. Don’t. Care. It’s not uncommon for young adult males to go after adolescence females in the west, there is a reoccurring pattern here. It’s becoming even more common with young adult women now as well going after adolescent boys, this is wrong, no matter how you try and frame it. Very rarely is there a case where the minor has power over the adult, in such cases the adult sounds like they need supervision and help.

The difference between a 25 year old and a 20 year old in terms of brain development is also vast, should we legislate against those relationships too?

A 20 year old isn’t an adolescent. There’s a lot that happens within those 4 years between 16 and 20.

And I'd argue the difference between them in regards to power and maturity is higher than a 20 and a 16 year old as in the latter case both are broke whereas someone in their mid 20s can already have stable income, a house, car and etc.

If you think 20 and 16 year olds are the same you’re moronic. I’m sorry, end of story, this is getting fucking stupid.

You don't know how power dynamics work if you're seriously arguing wealth doesn't make a difference. Anyone wealthy is more powerful than someone who is broke as long as they're at an age where their wealth can have an influence in the world, which teenagehood most certainly qualifies as.

Wealth doesn’t make nearly as much of a difference as you think it does, if anything, it may leave the adolescent open for even more exploitation, as people usually date within socioeconomic status.

Picking up on manipulative social behavior is a sign of maturity.
That's not the point. The point is that a 16 year old person can be more mature than a 20 year old one. You argued the problem was a maturity issue, now you're moving the goalposts. You're aware young people can be coercive and manipulative as well?

It’s actually a combination of issues, maturity and development is a couple of them. I’d be weary as a caretaker if my 20 year old child was being coerced into sex by a 16 year old. Probably be asking myself what I’m doing letting my child who is obviously struggling development wise near a 16 year old doing that. Though this is rarely the case and rarely happens as far as I know. Do you like, feel insulted? I’m not calling you predatory, I’m just saying I’m not putting already vulnerable teens at risk just because you’re supposed relationship worked out. We have these laws for a reason, to keep the majority safe we need to impose on the minority who work it out. This is how we work.

My argument is that we should look at this on a case by case basis rather than condemning people based on axiomatic truths like you're doing.

How about: encouraging 20 year olds not to hit on 16 year olds?

How is a 20 year old far removed from a 16 year old if he's failed high-school twice and he's still there? Or if he's a NEET with his last fond memories of life being high-school? What exactly separates the two?

The men who go after 16 year olds aren’t always academically smart, being academically smart is synonymous with holding power over a 16 year old when you’re 20.

And as I said, the brain does not stop developing until 25, so there's as much of a gap between a 25 year old and a 21 year old. I think you're stuck in the arbitrary "18" age which does not make one an adult over night. Experiences make people adults. A 17 year old in college with his own dorm is more of an adult than a 24 year old high-school dropout still living with his parents with no job.

Lol, a 17 year old with their own dorm can be a number of things, doesn’t make them anymore of an adult than a 24 year old with no job, you’re really trying to reach here. So do you think 15 year olds that live by themselves and look after themselves essentially hold more over a 26 year old who still lives at home? Jesus Christ you’re thinking patterns are worrying, if anyone in your friendship circle were to do anything yikes it sounds like you wouldn’t call it out on the basis on this exceptionally retarded logic of yours.

Nobody said they always worked out, relationships don't always work out. Manipulative and coercive relationships can exist outside of age differences.

Sure. But there’s a difference when the person is an adolescent, how is this difficult for you to understand?

I've specifically been saying multiple times they're a case by case basis and my argument is that generally public perception should understand why most first-world countries understandably legislate exceptions between age differences of young adults since there's not as big of a difference between an 18 year old and a 15 year old as Twitter would have you think.

Again, it doesn’t matter. If we looked at each and every individual case, abuse and statutory rape would occur far more frequently than it does. We don’t look at every case where a 20 year old has sex with a 14 or 15 year old because majority of the time it’s not healthy and most people can recognise these differences.

15 and 18 years old is a bit more nuanced than 16 and 20, however, I’d still be weary.

To conclude, I think you feel like I came after you because I’m against this kind of behaviour, in which I have to admit, after talking with you I don’t really trust your judgement and the fact you stated your friends have been in similar situations actually frightens me for the potential minors in the situation. Can this become less rigid as time goes on? Yes, once society recognises the issues we have, one of them being the strange abundance of predatory behaviour from men (and a growing number of women). Right now, I’m not willing to risk the harm taking months to look at every individual case would cause, as it is the system is overloaded with cases in America at least.

Just encourage people not to date minors, simple as that. If a 20 year old can socialise with people their age they need help, another failure of the health system in the US. That country will never seize to amaze me with their brainwashed views.

[FPSSJ4_Goku]

Right, the mood seems a little tense right now. How about we calm ourselves down by making fun of Yuji?

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[Zinnia]

You'd think Daman would leave some explanation by this time, it's been a week. The longer he keeps silent the more it's being proven that all of this is in fact true.

Frankly, given how many years have passed since these things are said to have happened between Daman and this guy Duncan i don’t see it being pursued in court.

Didn't he already send a C&D letter towards the victim? That's a dishonorable move and I thought that court cases usually begin from things like this. What is Duncan supposed to do now after getting a C&D letter? Erase all evidence and pretend nothing happened?

[JulieYBM]

The cease and desist
--after reading about how Mills acted in trying to separate Duncan from their friend group--feels like a classic narcissism move. Mills is probably not making public statements because his lawyer has told him not to.

Duncan doesn't want to be famous. He's just putting out what happened for his own sake and likely to warn others. Mills hasn't revealed Duncan's real name, either, which means that he's also trying to keep things hush-hush.

There really isn't anything else to comment on at this point.

[Yuji]

Aim, VegettoEX has told us to stop with the off-topic, so if you'd like to carry on via PM, feel free to shoot me a message.

As for the topic at hand, Mills won't say a word and legally that's the smart thing to do.

[miguelnuva1]

Mills already made a mistake on his end confirming the events happened.

[PurestEvil]

Mills already made a mistake on his end confirming the events happened.

Mills' mistake was diddling that teenager Duncan in the first place

[miguelnuva1]

Mills already made a mistake on his end confirming the events happened.

Mills' mistake was diddling that teenager Duncan in the first place

We all know that from a moral standpoint. I'm saying from a legal standpoint he never should uav3 confirmed the events happened.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Mills is probably not making public statements because his lawyer has told him not to.

That's exactly why he hasn't made a statement...

And actually, in going to ANN to look up the sentence in the article where they confirm just that, I learned of a new development: "Duncan," the man in question, has withdrawn his statements. Coincidentally, this article also mentions that Mills was advised by his lawyers not to say anything.

Make of this development what you will, I suppose.

[Kuririn-sama]

"Duncan," the man in question, has withdrawn his statements. Coincidentally, this article also mentions that Mills was advised by his lawyers not to say anything.

Interesting. No way am I taking that as proof that Daman is innocent of those claims in any sense though, personally. That sounds super shady on its own; and it would be far from the first time someone has used legal threats to forcibly silence a victim or to make that victim silence themselves.

Obviously we don't know everything here, but even with this new 'development' Daman Mills still admitted to engaging in the relationship to begin with. Which is... yeah.

[miguelnuva1]

Intreasting turn of events. I wonder why the retraction happened.

[JulieYBM]

Intreasting turn of events. I wonder why the retraction happened.

Duncan was likely threatened with legal action that he couldn't pay for because America.