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Re: Daman Mills issue

Post by miguelnuva1 » Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:13 am

Shaddy wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:44 am I feel like you guys are getting really hung up on the age of consent thing when...the guy still alleged that he was assaulted by Mills, which doesn't go away just because he wasn't underage, and I still see no reason not to believe him.
We know that Duncan was assaulted, with him retracting his statment and Mills saying what happened was consenual and not.of us being there I'm bringing up age of consent to show that in the eyes of the law Mills is innocent.

Had the age of consent been different Mills would have been in trouble even if I'm his words the relationship was consenual.

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Re: Daman Mills issue

Post by MasenkoHA » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:00 am

Peach wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:53 am

I encourage anyone who has evidence or any victims to at least contact a tip line.
Law enforcement has a reputation for being useless and generally unsympathetic towards SA victims for a reason, unfortunately.

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Re: Daman Mills issue

Post by dragonmagico » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:07 am

MasenkoHA wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:00 am
Peach wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:53 am

I encourage anyone who has evidence or any victims to at least contact a tip line.
Law enforcement has a reputation for being useless and generally unsympathetic towards SA victims for a reason, unfortunately.
This is sadly true, but at least a paper trail could help people see the man for the predator he almost certainly is and keep him away from more potential child victims.

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Re: Daman Mills issue

Post by Aim » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:18 am

PurestEvil wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:50 am
Aim wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:37 pm
dragonmagico wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:56 am

How is saying a boy that was raped by a man is lying less bigoted :wtf:
Uh oh, stinky
If you thought I believed claiming a teen who was violated by an adult is a liar was not bigoted, then I suppose there was some miscommunication along the way. I was saying Jord was trying (and failing) to appear less bigoted.
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Re: Daman Mills issue

Post by DiloVortexx » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:14 am

I've been quietly following this story over the past few days (haven't said anything cuz i'm new here and didn't know when i should reply jsdkjfdkfjg) and.. yeah.. this is fucked

absolutely horrible that people are still doing things like this in the year of 2022.. i wish only the best for the victims and that hopefully justice will be served at some point
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Re: Daman Mills issue

Post by RichardKing2 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:51 pm

The Ohio man that previously accused Evangelion film and Sonny Boy voice actor Daman Mills of sexual misconduct told ANN on Thursday that the allegations were fabricated and untrue. He previously withdrew the allegations on Monday.

The man, referred to as "Duncan" due to concerns over retaliation and privacy, contacted Anime News Network on Thursday to state that he made the claims out of jealousy.

"This isn't who I am and I had no idea how much pain all this was going to cause him. I was just angry, and I wanted him to feel sorry for just abandoning me," Duncan wrote.

Mills told ANN that he has sought legal counsel and has been advised not to comment on the allegations. He sent Duncan a Cease and Desist letter on February 18. Mills also demanded in the letter that the Duncan cease and desist from further contacting Mills' employers or contractors. He was given until February 25 to agree or face potential legal action, including potential liability for damages, costs, and expenses. In a separate communication with Duncan, Mills asked that the allegations be retracted before he would consider granting an extension to respond to the cease & desist.
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Re: Daman Mills issue

Post by WittyUsername » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:31 pm

I just typed Daman Mills’ name on YouTube out of morbid curiosity, and it seems that there were in-fact some ISWV individuals who were more than happy to talk about this story, and seemed to treat it as some kind of moral victory, including that Nick Rekieta guy. Remember him?

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Post by miguelnuva1 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:20 pm

And this right here is why real victims have such a hard time getting help from others. How many real victims are going to be acussed of lying now because of cases like this.

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Re: Daman Mills issue

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:45 pm

What a nasty taste this leaves in my mouth.
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Post by Anonymous Friend » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:30 pm

It's not like we haven't had false accusations in the past. It's just most parents don't teach their children how to handle themselves in such situations. Most instances you should be able to turn away advances in a mild tone, stronger tone for the more persistant. And if it continues you might have to remove yourself. Pretty sure if someone's actively trying to stab you with a knife, you're not just going to stay there and let them. Doesn't matter if you shouldn't have to deal with someone trying to kill you or not.

And when someone really crosses that line, if someone does something to you that very unwanted and inappropriate, teach people to speak out against the offender immediately. People have stated that it embarrassing and shameful and such, but if properly prepared, you'd be better able to react. Same way we teach people how to handle themselves when someone wants to cause them physical harm.
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Post by Kuririn-sama » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:52 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:45 pm What a nasty taste this leaves in my mouth.
Yeah, I'm not sure of any other way to put it. I think that sums it up well.
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Re: Daman Mills issue

Post by goku the krump dancer » Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:55 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:20 pm And this right here is why real victims have such a hard time getting help from others. How many real victims are going to be acussed of lying now because of cases like this.
This is why folks shouldn't just assume anything right off the bat and jump on a hate train or become an ultra-stand for an accused individual until there's proper proof. Even if there're loved ones involved, there're some crazy stories out there about step-daughters lying on their step-fathers and falsely accusing them of sexual harassment/assault just purely out of spite and ignorance and its usually just because the step-father is actually enforcing some rules in the house that she doesn't like, makes for some hella messy drama.


Also, a guy between 17 -21 who's dating someone a little younger than that (15-16) is stigmatized because there's this idea that the dude is just going for easy pickings and is gonna ruin the girls life. That's not always the case because teenage promiscuity is a very real thing too shoot even me at 29 I've had to shut down some advances from high schoolers trying to flirt whenever i'm doing Uber rides, I refuse to put myself in a position to potentially get arrested for something so stupid. That aside though you also cant just straight up rule out there being genuine interest between a 19/20 year old and someone whos15/16/17 years old but it does make for a sticky situation. Ultimately its up to the parents to properly vet the guy to make sure he at least has his head on straight then it should be fine.
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:06 am

Not sure what you mean. I didn’t say anything wrong or disrespectful. What’s “w/r/t”?
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Re: Daman Mills issue

Post by Shaddy » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:13 am

Well I gotta say I was not expecting this at all. Honestly unsure what to believe here, other than that there's now a very distinct difference between the case where the guy admitted to the assault and the one where the victim came out and said he was lying.

The problem, of course, is that Mills still threatened him with legal action. Rial, Marchi et al. had the money and Funimation backing them up legally, whereas this guy didn't. I can only worry that he may have simply backed off because he was afraid of a lawsuit, and not because he was actually lying.

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Re: Daman Mills issue

Post by DiloVortexx » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:56 am

JulieYBM wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:45 pm What a nasty taste this leaves in my mouth.
oh god same
man this situation sucks ass

i was a bit skeptical abt it too but i usually believe the victims first in case its a legitimate situation like with happened with mr v you know who
bc I've been through similar situations in the past and augh i wanna see justice come to those who do those things to minors

so just knowing it was apparently a bunch of lies is just yikes-
i dont know which side to believe now really and thats why i usually wait until bigger news come out abt things like this that proves that what happened actually wasnt made up that sounds awful in hindsight i know but unfortunately there have been things like this that have happened before like with what happened to dan from game grumps and vinesauce vinny...

for context: ppl tried to cancel the both of them saying they were being groomed by them but they both were fake claims made for clout and i actually immediately called out the vinny situation as bullshit cuz the voice recordings they had of vinny saying some apparently nasty things sounded nothing like him lol
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Re: Daman Mills issue

Post by Aim » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:18 am

goku the krump dancer wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:55 pm Also, a guy between 17 -21 who's dating someone a little younger than that (15-16) is stigmatized because there's this idea that the dude is just going for easy pickings and is gonna ruin the girls life. That's not always the case because teenage promiscuity is a very real thing too shoot even me at 29 I've had to shut down some advances from high schoolers trying to flirt whenever i'm doing Uber rides, I refuse to put myself in a position to potentially get arrested for something so stupid. That aside though you also cant just straight up rule out there being genuine interest between a 19/20 year old and someone whos15/16/17 years old but it does make for a sticky situation. Ultimately its up to the parents to properly vet the guy to make sure he at least has his head on straight then it should be fine.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if you wouldn’t be arrested, are you suggesting you’d actually reciprocate it back to a high schooler?

Also, difference between a 19 year old and a 17 year old, two years apart, they are actually quite close especially if they have both turned 19 and 17 the same year, it gets complicated and more yikes when the gap is between an adult and a 16 year old. There are exceptions but it’s generally accepted the development that happens between 16 and 20 is vast enough to be inappropriate most of the time. This doesn’t take into account the way women are treated either, abuse actually leads to hyper sexuality and young adolescent girls (and boys) may try to indulge with adults.

There’s stigma for a reason, because men are majority the ones that prey on young people, however, since society isn’t changing and expectations and less traditional views are becoming less prevalent, women taking advantage of adolescents and sometimes children are becoming more frequent. It’s either that or it was never taken seriously in the past.

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Post by Jord » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:00 am

Gee, who would have thought?
The internet lynch mob sure didn't. Guilty as charged. Let's just follow our gut instinct and crucify the guy without getting the facts. It must be true. People wouldn't fabricate this. Poor, poor "victim". Let's just believe the victim instead, even though we don't even know the person or the actual facts. :(

Such a a shame to see how quickly people are to react and judge someone so quickly, including people in this very topic.

Let's first just wait and see how things play out before you cast your judgment. It's really not that hard.

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Post by PurestEvil » Fri Mar 18, 2022 5:23 am

Jord wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:00 am Gee, who would have thought?
The internet lynch mob sure didn't. Guilty as charged. Let's just follow our gut instinct and crucify the guy without getting the facts. It must be true. People wouldn't fabricate this. Poor, poor "victim". Let's just believe the victim instead, even though we don't even know the person or the actual facts. :(

Such a a shame to see how quickly people are to react and judge someone so quickly, including people in this very topic.

Let's first just wait and see how things play out before you cast your judgment. It's really not that hard.
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Post by Aim » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:18 am

Jord wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:00 am Gee, who would have thought?
The internet lynch mob sure didn't. Guilty as charged. Let's just follow our gut instinct and crucify the guy without getting the facts. It must be true. People wouldn't fabricate this. Poor, poor "victim". Let's just believe the victim instead, even though we don't even know the person or the actual facts. :(

Such a a shame to see how quickly people are to react and judge someone so quickly, including people in this very topic.

Let's first just wait and see how things play out before you cast your judgment. It's really not that hard.
It’s a little hard after what happened with Vic. But generally victims should be given credence, otherwise most cases would be dismissed. Not to mention vast majority of SA and rape cases aren’t even reported, this isn’t as simple as “just look at evidence” when it’s not particularly hard for people to get away with such crimes.

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