DragonballZ Rewatch, Week 420 - Dragonball Evolution (April Fool)

[sunsetshimmer]

Since it's not April 1st anymore, i can be totally honest:

I will always keep saying Evolution is much better than Netflix version of Death Note.
It's not good movie by any means, it's bad, but not as bad as people say and what failed here the most was terrible execution, not the concept alone. Some of the ideas were actually really cool. I also like costumes in this movie (most notably Goku's Gi, Bulma and Piccolo). Chichi, despite being completely different than the one we all know, is actually really cool character. I never really felt offended by existence of this movie. Can't say the same thing about Death Note. I'm actually glad this movie didn't try to be faithful to original material and was just inspired by it. Just wish it got some more love and wasn't just a cash grab. Anyway, i've seen a lot of movies worse than Evolution. If we don't try to compare it to source material, it is not terrible movie.

[dva_raza]

Chris Stuckman's hilariousity review of it is hilarious and I'm good with just watching that

[Hellspawn28]

It's not a good film, but it can be a fun bad movie to watch with friends. People who say DBE is the worst film ever needs to see more bad films. I always like that DBE has a cheesy 90s direct to video vibe to it. This film is probably the cloest thing that PM Entertainment would make if they made a Dragon Ball film back in the 90s.

Other good things about the film:

It has a devise cast. Outside of Goku being white washed, I do like you have a nice mixture of diversity with most of the cast being east Asian.
You have practical effects and the film being filmed on sets. No overused of CGI like that you would find the MCU and Transformers.
Jamie Chung as Chi-Chi, and James Marsters as Piccolo were the only good actors in the film.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

People who say DBE is the worst film ever needs to see more bad films.

Worst movie I've ever seen is Dirty Grandpa. The most forced love story and humour I've ever seen on film, dialogue that sounds like it was written by a 12 year old who discovered swear words, even Robert De Niro's acting feels phoned in at times (though it would be hard for anyone to make those lines work). Evolution is not a good movie by any stretch of the imagination but there's a movie that makes it look like a masterpiece by comparison.

[90sDBZ]

People who say DBE is the worst film ever needs to see more bad films.

Evolution does suck, but I agree people who say it's the worst movie ever haven't seen enough movies.

I've seen countless low budget horror movies, and there's many that make the likes of DBE, Batman and Robin, Superman 4, and Terminator Genisys look like masterpieces by comparison.

One of the worst I've seen is a film called The Bunnyman Massacre, or another called The Greasy Strangler. I think those titles speak for themselves.

[Hellspawn28]

At least, DBE didn't hurt the Dragon Ball brand name. The movie quickly came and went as if it was never a thing in the first place. Also, it made Toriyama to help make the current DB era that we had today.

[Robo4900]

Also, it made Toriyama to help make the current DB era that we had today.

Imo Modern Toriyama's uninspired, phoned-in ideas for Super do not redeem this film; in fact, I'd consider it the most offensive aspect of the film. Other than that, I honestly enjoyed watching this pretty-bad movie. I would recommend it for bad movie nights, although it wouldn't be top of my list.

[Grimlock]

When people say "Dragon Ball Evolution led us into this modern era of Dragon Ball", I can't never tell their intention. Are they supposedly and intentionally trying to draw out a positive or a negative feeling?

[90sDBZ]

When people say "Dragon Ball Evolution led us into this modern era of Dragon Ball", I can't never tell their intention. Are they supposedly and intentionally trying to draw out a positive or a negative feeling?

Whether or not people like Super, Battle of Gods was pretty well liked when it came out and still seems to be.

Super has its problems for sure, but I enjoy it for what it is, and even if I didn't I could just watch Battle of Gods and call it a day. Even if that movie was the only part of the revival someone liked, they still liked it which should make it worthwhile.

[MasenkoHA]

When people say "Dragon Ball Evolution led us into this modern era of Dragon Ball", I can't never tell their intention. Are they supposedly and intentionally trying to draw out a positive or a negative feeling?

Whether or not people like Super, Battle of Gods was pretty well liked when it came out and still seems to be.

Super has its problems for sure, but I enjoy it for what it is, and even if I didn't I could just watch Battle of Gods and call it a day. Even if that movie was the only part of the revival someone liked, they still liked it which should make it worthwhile.

Far as I know BoG was happening with or without Toriyama. But we can thank Evolution for preventing Toei doing the "plague of evil" plot for the third fucking time, I suppose.

[Hellspawn28]

The original BOG movie would have been terrible or medicore. I'm glad that Toriyama came in and made the film better.

[WittyUsername]

BoG would have been made regardless, but I can’t imagine it would’ve spawned a bunch of new movies and a new series if Toriyama hadn’t gotten involved. In that sense, people who are fans of the Super era have this movie to thank.

[Robo4900]

The original BOG movie would have been terrible or medicore. I'm glad that Toriyama came in and made the film better.

Oh, so you've been to a parallel universe where we got that movie?

BoG would have been made regardless, but I can’t imagine it would’ve spawned a bunch of new movies and a new series if Toriyama hadn’t gotten involved. In that sense, people who are fans of the Super era have this movie to thank.

Exactly.

However I'm that one guy who hates Super, so it annoys me that this movie is probably at least partially to thank for Super's horrendous existence.

Granted, this movie is also to thank for the existence of DBS Broly, which I enjoyed a lot, so... You win some, you lose some.

[Saiya6Cit]

However I'm that one guy who hates Super

Always a pleasure to meet a fellow friend.

I started to watch DB Evolution when I was in an intercity bus, I arrived to my destination, got off the bus and never knew what happened

i got til the part where they have an stereotipycal american party (¿?)


But now I feel like I must watch it... just because it's 420 week, you know.

[Robo4900]

Heh. Well, the actual rewatch ended with Week 115, but naturally for April Fools' I had to exaggerate it a little.

I wonder if anyone's noticed the stupidest joke I put in the OP for this one. It's not in the trivia section. (Trivia, both for the movie and for the draft script, was an April Fools' free zone; KBABZ and I took it just as seriously as we usually take our trivia writing)

[Jord]

I have to say DBE is a bad movie but it's fascinating to watch. Almost enjoyable in a way. It's definitely a B movie but I don't think it's horrible.

[Hellspawn28]

The original BOG movie would have been terrible or medicore. I'm glad that Toriyama came in and made the film better.

Oh, so you've been to a parallel universe where we got that movie?

Most of the DB content made without Toriyama has been pretty bad. I doubt things would have kick off today if he didn't work on BOG. I would imagine most people will be like "Who cares? Toriyama didn't make GT and that sucked. I'm skipping out on this one". People here may be 50/50 on Super, but Super is more well liked by the casual fanbase than GT is. You see more Super content being sold and more people saying that Super is enjoyable than GT. GT is the blacksheep of the franchise and people still look at it negativity today.

[Xeogran]

GT is the blacksheep of the franchise and people still look at it negativity today.

That's grossly overexaggerated on the Internet you know. GT is still getting new content 25 years after it's run, got quite a few of it's characters into FighterZ and all the other popular DB games. If it was a black sheep they wouldn't be still pushing it after all this time.

All this negativity is forced. Officials see it as a profitable product.

[WittyUsername]

DBE is the black sheep of the franchise, not GT.

[Hellspawn28]

GT is the blacksheep of the franchise and people still look at it negativity today.

That's grossly overexaggerated on the Internet you know. GT is still getting new content 25 years after it's run, got quite a few of it's characters into FighterZ and all the other popular DB games. If it was a black sheep they wouldn't be still pushing it after all this time.

I still see GT being talked negatively outside the Internet fans. Just because something gets some new content that does not mean it's not still be viewed in a negative light. Look at the Mortal Kombat franchise for example. The 3D era characters and games still get added into the newer games, but are still view negatively by the fans. Another example would be the Alien & Predator franchise with the post-Aliens sequels and the AVP films still getting action figures being made by NECA when those are not well like by fans and the general public. If GT was more successful, they would be doing a direct sequel to it instead of a series set after Buu and before the final episode of DBZ. Heck, GT only ended at 65 something episodes meanwhile DBZ went on for over 200 episodes.

DBE is the black sheep of the franchise, not GT.

DBE didn't leave much of an impact on the franchise. Most of the public forgotten about it with the only people who talk about it are anime fans and bad movie buffs. Heck, even the Razzies ignore it for their worst films of 2009.