In Dragon Ball Super the Z fighters misuse the Dragon Ball

[super michael]

I mean let look at the facts, Bulma was giving the Dragon Ball away for a bingo game. Then later the Z fighters didn't want Goku to revive Kaio, but instead they wanted their selfish wish granted. Then in the Broly movie it was revealed that Bulma uses the Dragon Balls to make herself 5 years younger.

How the Z fighters used to use the Dragon Balls in DB, DBZ and GT is way different than how the Z fighter use the Dragon Balls in DBS.

[MasenkoHA]

Wild how a series by a mangaka who primarily makes gag manga used the dragon balls for gags.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

If the Evil Dragons concept from GT is revisited (which I hope it is) the fact Goku and his friends abuse the Dragon Balls can only be a good thing storywise.

[PurestEvil]

Wild how a series by a mangaka who primarily makes gag manga used the dragon balls for gags.

It's almost like comedic relief exists!

[super michael]

I don't know in DB/DBZ/GT the Z fighters would never refuse to revive someone, just to get their selfish wish. However in DBS anime the Z fighters would prefer someone to remain dead just to get their selfish wish, even though the Z fighters didn't even gather the Dragon Balls.

Goku got the Dragon Balls to make his wish to revive, yet the Z fighters felt entitled to get their selfish wish done.

[MasenkoHA]

Wild how a series by a mangaka who primarily makes gag manga used the dragon balls for gags.

It's almost like comedic relief exists!

Real talk, I honestly love after the Z portion made finding the dragon balls an off panel excursion that doesn't even inconvenience the minor characters anymore Bulma just straight up offers them as bingo prizes. I mean...why wouldn't she?!?!?

I don't know in DB/DBZ/GT the Z fighters would never refuse to revive someone, just to get their selfish wish. However in DBS anime the Z fighters would prefer someone to remain dead just to get their selfish wish, even though the Z fighters didn't even gather the Dragon Balls.

Goku got the Dragon Balls to make his wish to revive, yet the Z fighters felt entitled to get their selfish wish done.

Hear me out...what does it matter if Kaio never gets revived? He's still the ruling Kaio of the Northern Galaxies, he still gets to live on his planet instead of being confined to the next world. What does restoring him do? Besides ditch a head accessory?

I would put my wish over a wasted wish on Kaio too.

[Majin Buu]

Wild how a series by a mangaka who primarily makes gag manga used the dragon balls for gags.

It's ultimately a display of irreverence.

Toriyama's humor is seeped in it, and much of Dragon Ball's nature makes more sense when you take into account that it was written by a guy that trades in irreverent humor.

Nothing is too special or important to become a gag in Dragon Ball.

[super michael]

Hear me out...what does it matter if Kaio never gets revived? He's still the ruling Kaio of the Northern Galaxies, he still gets to live on his planet instead of being confined to the next world. What does restoring him do? Besides ditch a head accessory?

I would put my wish over a wasted wish on Kaio too.

We know that Kaio isn't happy being dead, we know the only reason he is dead is thanks to Goku. Goku promised Kaio that he would revive him and he was the one that took the time to gather the Dragon Balls.

Remember this without Kaio training and teaching, Goku wouldn't have Kaioken and Genki Dama which was helpful during the Saiyan Saga, Namek Saga and Buu Saga (Genki Dama only).

Without Kaio there would be no Dende in the Cell Saga and no telepathy for the entire universe to hear Goku in the Buu Saga.


The Z Fighters didn't even bother to gather the Dragon Balls themselves and then acts like Kaio doesn't deserve to get wished back to life, even though he contributed a lot.

[MasenkoHA]

Hear me out...what does it matter if Kaio never gets revived? He's still the ruling Kaio of the Northern Galaxies, he still gets to live on his planet instead of being confined to the next world. What does restoring him do? Besides ditch a head accessory?

I would put my wish over a wasted wish on Kaio too.

We know that Kaio isn't happy being dead, we know the only reason he is dead is thanks to Goku. Goku promised Kaio that he would revive him and he was the one that took the time to gather the Dragon Balls.

Remember this without Kaio training and teaching, Goku wouldn't have Kaioken and Genki Dama which was helpful during the Saiyan Saga, Namek Saga and Buu Saga (Genki Dama only).

Without Kaio there would be no Dende in the Cell Saga and no telepathy for the entire universe to hear Goku in the Buu Saga.


The Z Fighters didn't even bother to gather the Dragon Balls themselves and then acts like Kaio doesn't deserve to get wished back to life, even though he contributed a lot.

I'm not happy when McDonald's forgets the sauce I asked for at the drive thru but it'd only an inconvenience.

[super michael]

Hear me out...what does it matter if Kaio never gets revived? He's still the ruling Kaio of the Northern Galaxies, he still gets to live on his planet instead of being confined to the next world. What does restoring him do? Besides ditch a head accessory?

I would put my wish over a wasted wish on Kaio too.

We know that Kaio isn't happy being dead, we know the only reason he is dead is thanks to Goku. Goku promised Kaio that he would revive him and he was the one that took the time to gather the Dragon Balls.

Remember this without Kaio training and teaching, Goku wouldn't have Kaioken and Genki Dama which was helpful during the Saiyan Saga, Namek Saga and Buu Saga (Genki Dama only).

Without Kaio there would be no Dende in the Cell Saga and no telepathy for the entire universe to hear Goku in the Buu Saga.


The Z Fighters didn't even bother to gather the Dragon Balls themselves and then acts like Kaio doesn't deserve to get wished back to life, even though he contributed a lot.

I'm not happy when McDonald's forgets the sauce I asked for at the drive thru but it'd only an inconvenience.

You can just go back to McDonald to get the sauce, while Kaio the only way to revive is by a wish being granted. There is no other way to get revived.

The Z fighters wish didn't even require the Dragon Balls at all, heck Bulma was able to give them what they wanted. Kaio doesn't have that option.
The only one who wish was selfless was Gohan, since Pan had a illness that couldn't be cured due to being a Saiyan. There was nothing wrong with that wish.

If Kaio dies while he is dead, then he would cease to exist.

[capsulecorp]

This is consistent with the ending of GT. The humans abused the Dragon Balls for selfish purposes and they eventually become corrupted and damaged. I think the way GT executed this idea was unbelievably lazy and uncreative, but the premise itself isn't bad and I like this aspect of DBS.

[Koitsukai]

Aside of the obvious gag POV, I think it also goes to show the difference between Namekians and humans.
Namekians treat the DBs with great respect, they hardly ever use them, not even to get their original planet back, while the more consumer-like humans just treat them like toys.

Also, why wasn't Kaio sama revived along with Future Trunks? they were both killed by Cell.

[super michael]

Aside of the obvious gag POV, I think it also goes to show the difference between Namekians and humans.
Namekians treat the DBs with great respect, they hardly ever use them, not even to get their original planet back, while the more consumer-like humans just treat them like toys.

Also, why wasn't Kaio sama revived along with Future Trunks? they were both killed by Cell.

In the chapter that I am looking at chapter 418 page 13/14 Goku say that Kaio was resurrected right now by Shenron, so he has forgiven him.
But in the same panel I see Kaio with a halo.

If someone has the official manga can someone post the chapter or copy the exact quote.

[Koitsukai]

Aside of the obvious gag POV, I think it also goes to show the difference between Namekians and humans.
Namekians treat the DBs with great respect, they hardly ever use them, not even to get their original planet back, while the more consumer-like humans just treat them like toys.

Also, why wasn't Kaio sama revived along with Future Trunks? they were both killed by Cell.

In the chapter that I am looking at chapter 418 page 13/14 Goku say that Kaio was resurrected right now by Shenron, so he has forgiven him.
But in the same panel I see Kaio with a halo.

If someone has the official manga can someone post the chapter or copy the exact quote.

Yeah, on one page Yamcha wishes everybody killed by Cell to be revived. Then Trunks come back, Shenron says Goku cannot come back because he had already been revived... and then we see Kaio and Bubbles with a halo... so what gives?

Shenron had already granted the wish, everybody who hadn't been revived before should be alive, case in point: Trunks.
So what about Kaio? am I forgetting he was revived by Shenron before this? Bubbles too? is it a Tori-fumble or am I overlooking something?

[DragonBallFoodie]

Yeah in Super their value seemed to have shifted from priceless treasure to commodity/lottery prize.

It didn't feel right, these are the tools of genies who can grant gifts, everybody should be stealing/guarding them.

[WittyUsername]

The only real repercussions to repeatedly using the Dragon Balls in the DBS continuity is that Shenlong wouldn’t be able to grant that same wish again. With that in mind, I don’t think the Dragon Team has any reason to worry about whether they’re using the Dragon Balls for a good reason. The Earth Dragon Balls are pretty much obsolete anyway, what with the Namekian Dragon Balls being a thing.

[jjgp1112]

The entire series wouldn't have happened if Bulma didn't want to use them for a trivial wish.

The first wish in the entire series was a pair of panties.

Yeah in Super their value seemed to have shifted from priceless treasure to commodity/lottery prize.

It didn't feel right, these are the tools of genies who can grant gifts, everybody should be stealing/guarding them.

Well if you had a Dragon Radar (one that you can quickly rebuild from scratch, at that!) and lived with a Super Space Viking & your mutant halfbreed son, and have several other superpowered friends on speed dial, would you feel the need to protect them that heavily during peace time?

The Dragon Balls were trivialized from day 1.

And in general, humorously undercutting sacred things is a signature staple of Toriyama's comedy.

[Shinsa]

The entire series wouldn't have happened if Bulma didn't want to use them for a trivial wish.

The first wish in the entire series was a pair of panties.

Yeah in Super their value seemed to have shifted from priceless treasure to commodity/lottery prize.

It didn't feel right, these are the tools of genies who can grant gifts, everybody should be stealing/guarding them.

Well if you had a Dragon Radar (one that you can quickly rebuild from scratch, at that!) and lived with a Super Space Viking & your mutant halfbreed son, and have several other superpowered friends on speed dial, would you feel the need to protect them that heavily during peace time?

The Dragon Balls were trivialized from day 1.

And in general, humorously undercutting sacred things is a signature staple of Toriyama's comedy.

You have a good point and are correct!

However I think why the subject is in question is because in DB the first time the Dragonballs were introduced the character were rather immature and naive. At the EOZ and Super characters are matured and developed and should know, specially Piccolo the affects and harm the Dragonballs can do. The lack of development and poor writing from Super sticks out compared to the happy go lucky start from the original DB.

[MyVisionity]

How the Z fighters used to use the Dragon Balls in DB, DBZ and GT is way different than how the Z fighter use the Dragon Balls in DBS.

That's because DBS is not DB/Z/GT.

The poster above has the right idea.

[Anonymous Friend]

We know that Kaio isn't happy being dead, we know the only reason he is dead is thanks to Goku. Goku promised Kaio that he would revive him and he was the one that took the time to gather the Dragon Balls.

Remember this without Kaio training and teaching, Goku wouldn't have Kaioken and Genki Dama which was helpful during the Saiyan Saga, Namek Saga and Buu Saga (Genki Dama only).

Without Kaio there would be no Dende in the Cell Saga and no telepathy for the entire universe to hear Goku in the Buu Saga.


The Z Fighters didn't even bother to gather the Dragon Balls themselves and then acts like Kaio doesn't deserve to get wished back to life, even though he contributed a lot.

If being "alive" is so important to Kaio, there's surely any number of being in heaven or the afterlife or earth or namek that can restore him. Heck, he can ask Goku to gather the balls for him and wish him back alive.

Spoiler:

He hasn't