Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
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The supplemental material is likely only maintaining a continuity with what the anime audience has seen, not necessarily expecting for them to have read the comic. I legitimately doubt that the comic's storylines are going to be outright ignore or treated as 'non-canon', they're just not necessary to mention right now.
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People can read the manga for free, at least the first 3 latest chapter. There is no excuse for the anime audience to not read the manga.
The Final episode date of DBS anime was on March 25, 2018, basically it has been 4 years since that last episode.
The interview or trailer states that Gohan last time he trained was for the ToP, which is a huge lie since Gohan trained in the Moro chapter. Chapter 56 and 58 are my evidence of Gohan training with Piccolo.
So yes they are outright ignoring Gohan training after the ToP and acting like he has been slacking since after the ToP.
It is too bad tv.com no longer exist. I used to use that website to see the episode list or when episodes are released.
The Final episode date of DBS anime was on March 25, 2018, basically it has been 4 years since that last episode.
The interview or trailer states that Gohan last time he trained was for the ToP, which is a huge lie since Gohan trained in the Moro chapter. Chapter 56 and 58 are my evidence of Gohan training with Piccolo.
So yes they are outright ignoring Gohan training after the ToP and acting like he has been slacking since after the ToP.
It is too bad tv.com no longer exist. I used to use that website to see the episode list or when episodes are released.
Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
1. You cannot expect thousands of families to read the comic. The cartoon series and films are used to sell merchandise and act as the main commercial for the franchise. A comic published monthly in a magazine specifically for spin-offs and merchandise-driven franchises is not going to get the most readers, either.super michael wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:57 am People can read the manga for free, at least the first 3 latest chapter. There is no excuse for the anime audience to not read the manga.
The Final episode date of DBS anime was on March 25, 2018, basically it has been 4 years since that last episode.
The interview or trailer states that Gohan last time he trained was for the ToP, which is a huge lie since Gohan trained in the Moro chapter. Chapter 56 and 58 are my evidence of Gohan training with Piccolo.
So yes they are outright ignoring Gohan training after the ToP and acting like he has been slacking since after the ToP.
It is too bad tv.com no longer exist. I used to use that website to see the episode list or when episodes are released.
3. People have lives.
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This is why they should have adapted the manga BEFORE skipping ahead... Imagine if instead of adapting the Android saga, TOEI was just like, "Okay, but if we make a movie set years in the future, and ignore the manga we haven't covered entirely?" That's stupid.
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The situations are entirely different. The comic's storylines were specifically made to keep the comic running while the overall machine that is the franchise took a rest so that it wouldn't continue to trudge on in the middle of not having any fucking resources. Toei Animation is busy. Toyo-tarou and Toriyama's comic requires significantly less resources.ZeroNeonix wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:40 am This is why they should have adapted the manga BEFORE skipping ahead... Imagine if instead of adapting the Android saga, TOEI was just like, "Okay, but if we make a movie set years in the future, and ignore the manga we haven't covered entirely?" That's stupid.
Super Hero is made specifically to offer something different and for a film format. Poorly structured and paced as they are, the Moro and Granola arcs are still written to be adapted into a serialized format. Super Hero is a single one-and-done story so that it could be released to continue to anime's presence in the mainstream without requiring the resources and timeslot on Fuji that a weekly cartoon series would.
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So Gohan stopped training after the ToP confirmed which makes Toyo's nonsense non canon to the movie.
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Or that's a logline based on the fact that the majority of the audience probably hasn't read the comic and they want to continue the audience's perception of the series for the sake of the movie.ZombieVito wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:29 am So Gohan stopped training after the ToP confirmed which makes Toyo's nonsense non canon to the movie.
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...Domestically?super michael wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:57 am People can read the manga for free, at least the first 3 latest chapter.
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There are people who choose to because they would like to go into the anime when it's coming back not knowing the story.super michael wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:57 am People can read the manga for free, at least the first 3 latest chapter. There is no excuse for the anime audience to not read the manga.
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Speak for yourself.super michael wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:57 am People can read the manga for free, at least the first 3 latest chapter. There is no excuse for the anime audience to not read the manga.
Some people simply don't like reading, have you ever thought of that? Others might simply not know it exists, the DBS manga isn't exactly the most hyped or mainstream manga. Indeed, I know many people irl who think the Storyline ended at Broly.
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Hi computer,
Are there some absolutely insane takes I can read about continuity based on the choices made for a stand-alone, mass-market film Toriyama started writing during the production of Broly?
Are there some absolutely insane takes I can read about continuity based on the choices made for a stand-alone, mass-market film Toriyama started writing during the production of Broly?
Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
If I'm not mistaken... it is made clear that Gohan and Piccolo in addition to the earthlings prepared for the second arrival of moro... (the time they waited for goku and vegeta to finish training)Yuji wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:43 amHe wasn't exactly in-training when Moro showed up.Tai Lung wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:05 am Well this should confirm the manga as a separate continuity
https://twitter.com/DbsHype/status/1515526660610699267
They're deliberately keeping things as vague as possible to adapt the manga arcs in the future if need be.
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Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Gohan state in the anime that he would train so he can protect his family? Then in the anime I am sure that he said he would try and gain a Ultimate power that no one has ever seen.ZombieVito wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:29 am So Gohan stopped training after the ToP confirmed which makes Toyo's nonsense non canon to the movie.
The movie also ignores the anime.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_I'm ... AADJFl.jpg
Credit to Scotty. This is anime.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_I'm ... AADJFo.jpg
Credit to Scotty. This is manga.
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Gohan getting his groove back was a plot done twice in the DBS anime, in fact (post-RoF and for the ToP).
Gohan just can't stop getting his groove back.
I think mostly it's just an amusing reflection of the disparate parts of Super at this point. Toriyama wasn't aware of what the TV writers were doing, they weren't aware of what each other were doing, Toriyama wasn't all that invested in what Gohan did in the ToP arc in either version, and he began writing the plot for this movie during production of Broly, intending for it to be something that appealed broadly to audiences coming off of the films.
The result is that Gohan gets his groove back a comical number of times across the various mediums for Super, and we kind of just have to shrug and roll with it. The kind of larger audiences a film like this is intended for have never been in the nitty gritty of either serialized version of Super and won't notice. Hope the film is fun!
Gohan just can't stop getting his groove back.
I think mostly it's just an amusing reflection of the disparate parts of Super at this point. Toriyama wasn't aware of what the TV writers were doing, they weren't aware of what each other were doing, Toriyama wasn't all that invested in what Gohan did in the ToP arc in either version, and he began writing the plot for this movie during production of Broly, intending for it to be something that appealed broadly to audiences coming off of the films.
The result is that Gohan gets his groove back a comical number of times across the various mediums for Super, and we kind of just have to shrug and roll with it. The kind of larger audiences a film like this is intended for have never been in the nitty gritty of either serialized version of Super and won't notice. Hope the film is fun!
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that is false ... because that was said before the TOPsuper michael wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:16 pmCorrect me if I am wrong but didn't Gohan state in the anime that he would train so he can protect his family? Then in the anime I am sure that he said he would try and gain a Ultimate power that no one has ever seen.ZombieVito wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:29 am So Gohan stopped training after the ToP confirmed which makes Toyo's nonsense non canon to the movie.
The movie also ignores the anime.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_I'm ... AADJFl.jpg
Credit to Scotty. This is anime.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_I'm ... AADJFo.jpg
Credit to Scotty. This is manga.
and basically gohan gets stronger in the same tournament...
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There are simply people who are not interested in manga...
I know people who prefer to watch the transformers movies but they are not interested in the comics in the least
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I get not liking the manga but people are so antagonistic towards it and it's weird. It's so easy to ignore
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Regardless if the movie acknowledge or ignores the manga, I will still watch the movie and most likely enjoy it. The chances of me enjoying it is 99.99%. I highly doubt I will be disappointed.
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Yeah this weirds me out, too. But, when I think about it, I sometimes have similarly hostile feelings toward the anime... but then, when I think about it more, I remember that's because of the anime's extraordinarily poor quality most of the time! The manga may not be perfect, but it's a lot less frustrating and heartbreaking, at least to me.
Also, I realize there are people in this world who cannot or do not like to read. I pity them and hope that, if it's within their means, they learn to appreciate one of the oldest and perhaps most powerful art forms known to humankind.
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at least I prefer the top anime fights to the scam we had in the manga tournament ... where 80 fighters hardly even fought ....capsulecorp wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 3:44 pmYeah this weirds me out, too. But, when I think about it, I sometimes have similarly hostile feelings toward the anime... but then, when I think about it more, I remember that's because of the anime's extraordinarily poor quality most of the time! The manga may not be perfect, but it's a lot less frustrating and heartbreaking, at least to me.
Many came topic anime just to criticize the anime when it was broadcast just to say that the manga was better it is not surprising that the matter has been reversed