Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

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Post by Dragmobot12 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:23 am

Even if he is the main villain, there is no doubt that he will be defeated, but here is the question. Will he survive somehow?

For example, does he either regenerate from a single cell like he did in DBZ? Or, I noticed that the spiky ball he has on his tail (acording to his design description) is very reminiscent of his egg that he used to reborn himself in our timeline.

Maybe it's like a Cell Max backup in case his current body gets casually damaged?

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Post by Skar » Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:03 am

Dragmobot12 wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:23 amMaybe it's like a Cell Max backup in case his current body gets casually damaged?
The backup hatches to become Cell-X! It would be interesting if that's what this Cell ends up looking like aside from the change in color. I think that would be the second DBO inspiration after Toriyama's Yardrat design in the manga. It might be the third if we consider the RR army returning under a different name as another one.

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Post by Lionel » Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:16 am

Have to say, I think I find Salagir's interpretation of an evolved Super Buu that's become unprejudicedly motivated by his own amusement (both good and bad in manifesting itself) and the unique villain creation, XXI, more interesting than what's coming out right now about the antagonists of this film. Yes he's writing a fan comic but still, the creativity there seems more dynamic. The Red Ribbon Army re surging for the second time now with a previously unknown combination of artificial fighters who can match up with the heroes as of lately along with some even more powerful abomination lurking in the background sounds like a rehash. Gohan's ascendant heroism shouldn't just be defined by what he did in the Cell arc.

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Post by Grimlock » Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:32 am

Skar wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:03 amI think that would be the second DBO inspiration after Toriyama's Yardrat design in the manga. It might be the third if we consider the RR army returning under a different name as another one.
Or the fourth if we consider that filler which Mister Satan is an actor. Mister Satan will eventually become an actor as per Dragon Ball Online. The more from that game or the more we head toward it, the better! :thumbup:

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Post by PrinceVegetto » Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:36 pm

Looks like the soundtrack released!
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Post by YamiGoku » Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:12 pm

with great soundtrack comes great Sony legal lawsuit... :lol:

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Post by LastationLover5000 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:24 pm

YamiGoku wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:12 pm with great soundtrack comes great Sony legal lawsuit... :lol:
"WHY DID YOU HAVE TO PLAGIARISE EVERYTHING, YAMAMOTO?!"
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Post by LastationLover5000 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:27 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:40 am Movie has been rated by the Eirin board with 'G' in Japan.

G-Rating is for "all general audiences regardless of age."
Shouldn't it be?
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Post by LastationLover5000 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:30 pm

cEgocentrico wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:58 am Cell MAX!

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The more I see of this film, the more content I become with my fanfic. Wow that is a nightmare.
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Post by Xeno Goku Black » Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:24 pm

LastationLover5000 wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:30 pmI become with my fanfic. Wow that is a nightmare.
You write a fanfic, ok, there's no need to keep pushing. Besides the image is a fake anyway.
Lionel wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:16 amThe Red Ribbon Army re surging for the second time now with a previously unknown combination of artificial fighters who can match up with the heroes as of lately along with some even more powerful abomination lurking in the background sounds like a rehash.
Well of course it's a rehash. It's not surprising to me at all that they would bring back Cell for this movie. Resurrection F brought back Frieza the #1 most popular villain, Broly brought back....Broly the #2 most popular villain so naturally now they're bringing back Cell who is the #3 most popular villain.

If they make another movie expect them to bring back another villain.

Even when it's not a movie or a villain they're still bringing back Trunks then Android 17 and then Bardock.

It's not the only franchise to do it either. Star Wars has a enormous wealth of possibilities with what they can do and they've done the exact same thing. Bringing back Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, Lando, Obi Wan, Darth Vader, Boba Fett etc.

The new Jurassic World is bringing back Alan Grant and Ian Malcolm. Creed 2 brought back Ivan Drago. Spider-Man No Way Home brought back Toby Maguire and Andrew Garfield.

Legacy characters sell.

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Post by Jiren The Alpha » Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:26 am

Xeno Goku Black wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:24 pm
LastationLover5000 wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:30 pmI become with my fanfic. Wow that is a nightmare.
You write a fanfic, ok, there's no need to keep pushing. Besides the image is a fake anyway.
Lionel wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:16 amThe Red Ribbon Army re surging for the second time now with a previously unknown combination of artificial fighters who can match up with the heroes as of lately along with some even more powerful abomination lurking in the background sounds like a rehash.
Well of course it's a rehash. It's not surprising to me at all that they would bring back Cell for this movie. Resurrection F brought back Frieza the #1 most popular villain, Broly brought back....Broly the #2 most popular villain so naturally now they're bringing back Cell who is the #3 most popular villain.

If they make another movie expect them to bring back another villain.

Even when it's not a movie or a villain they're still bringing back Trunks then Android 17 and then Bardock.

It's not the only franchise to do it either. Star Wars has a enormous wealth of possibilities with what they can do and they've done the exact same thing. Bringing back Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, Lando, Obi Wan, Darth Vader, Boba Fett etc.

The new Jurassic World is bringing back Alan Grant and Ian Malcolm. Creed 2 brought back Ivan Drago. Spider-Man No Way Home brought back Toby Maguire and Andrew Garfield.

Legacy characters sell.
He is the least popular in Japan

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Post by SupremeKai25 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 5:07 am

There's no evidence that Cell is the third most popular DB villain. Him being part of the original series is not sufficient.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Goku Black already surpassed him (despite being part of the "sequel" series), based on the last official Vjump DB villains poll, where he indeed came third place, behind Frieza and Broly.
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Post by Xeno Goku Black » Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:06 am

Cell is far more well known than Goku Black so would be more popular for that reason alone.

He is one of the most famous and iconic villains from the series so is the natural choice after Frieza and Cell seeing as they couldn't go with Buu as a version of him is still around.

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Post by Jiren The Alpha » Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:31 am

Xeno Goku Black wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:06 am Cell is far more well known than Goku Black so would be more popular for that reason alone.

He is one of the most famous and iconic villains from the series so is the natural choice after Frieza and Cell seeing as they couldn't go with Buu as a version of him is still around.
Cell lost in a poll WITH Goku Black in it so how is he more popular? How does that work? And ones again, this is not the same Cell, it's like saying Broly is a copy of Vegeta because they were both saiyans, antagonist in they stories and survived they fights. This fanbase is really bad at doing comparisons.

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Post by Mr_CINDER » Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:35 am

I hope naoki sato dont suffer the same fate as yamamoto https://twitter.com/AnimeAjay/status/15 ... 0334704640 this ost(6th) is straight out of spider man.

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Post by Xeno Goku Black » Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:16 am

Jiren The Alpha wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:31 am
Xeno Goku Black wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:06 am Cell is far more well known than Goku Black so would be more popular for that reason alone.

He is one of the most famous and iconic villains from the series so is the natural choice after Frieza and Cell seeing as they couldn't go with Buu as a version of him is still around.
Cell lost in a poll WITH Goku Black in it so how is he more popular? How does that work? And ones again, this is not the same Cell, it's like saying Broly is a copy of Vegeta because they were both saiyans, antagonist in they stories and survived they fights. This fanbase is really bad at doing comparisons.
That was a recent poll in a V Jump Magazine which Dragon Ball Super runs in. The people who voted will be familiar with the character.

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Post by Skar » Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:25 am

Jiren The Alpha wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:26 amHe is the least popular in Japan
I remember it was explained that the popularity polls only involve some fans who buy the magazines so they might not reflect the entire audience. It's also why the exact rankings differ depending on which group of fans are polled at the time. The recent video games don't seem to imply that Cell is unpopular in Japan. Kakarot only covered the story up to RoF and Trunks defeating Future Babidi while Jump Force and Breaks only included DBZ villains so far.

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Post by capsulecorp » Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:45 am

Jiren The Alpha wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:31 am Cell lost in a poll WITH Goku Black in it so how is he more popular? How does that work? And ones again, this is not the same Cell, it's like saying Broly is a copy of Vegeta because they were both saiyans, antagonist in they stories and survived they fights. This fanbase is really bad at doing comparisons.
Funny you should ask, I did an analysis of this very question: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=46277&p=1739806#p1739806

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Post by Dragmobot12 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:46 am

https://twitter.com/DBSChronicles/statu ... 76/photo/1

I think DBSChronicles is implying towards something here, the Raditz thing is totally fake, but are we going to get something similar to it?

Someone thinks that it could be Xicor, a clone of Goku created by the Red Ribbon Army. Maybe that's the fan project he's refering too.

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Post by Draconic » Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:55 am

Dragmobot12 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:46 am https://twitter.com/DBSChronicles/statu ... 76/photo/1

I think DBSChronicles is implying towards something here, the Raditz thing is totally fake, but are we going to get something similar to it?

Someone thinks that it could be Xicor, a clone of Goku created by the Red Ribbon Army. Maybe that's the fan project he's refering too.

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He's just screwing around with that post.

He only posts spoilers containing the #SuperHeroSpoilers tag.

Whatever the fan thing he refers to is, it's not going to be something like that.
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