Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

[capsulecorp]

Should we rely on anecdotes and personal feelings as evidence, or on the official polls conducted by Vjump?

What anecdotes and personal feelings? Capsulecorp said he wasn't a fan of the character and only provided evidence based on search results. I pointed out that the recent video games only used the original DBZ villains. The last console game to include Goku Black that I know was FighterZ in 2018 and not the next three games. Jump Force features multiple Jump series and only the most known villains of each title. Cell was in the first trailer for DB Breakers. Maybe some movie and DBS villains will appear later but only the DBZ have been confirmed so far.

Yes, to be clear, the post I linked uses data outside of the fan poll. My argument is that it's more valuable/accurate/trustworthy etc because its from a much broader and much more random sample.

Naturally, we can't ever really settle questions of which fictional characters are "more popular" than others, but I do think we can do a little better than just looking at a tiny poll with a tiny self-selected set of participants.

[Xeogran]

Has anyone noticed there's no scene of Pan flying shown through all of this movie from what we've seen? We got a new CM today and Pan is shown jumping from spot to spot while kicking the RR soldiers, and then doing her best running from an explosion:

https://twitter.com/DbsHype/status/1534742783344316416

And yet the DBS anime showed us she can fly casually as a baby in many episodes.

[SupremeKai25]

Dragon Ball Kanzenban Official Guide: Dragon Ball Forever 2004. Cell ranked 14, Majin buu 8, Frieza 9.
Sports Nippon poll: Cell ranked 12, Goku Black ranked 6, Broly ranked 5, Frieza ranked 8 and Hit ranked 9.

Of course Cell is still being used, he is a big part of the series and it would be a waste not to use his great character design lol.

So are you saying that Cell is only looks, no substance? That he should be brought back only because he looks cool?

I don't disagree, btw, Cell doesn't have much substance as a character.

Regardless, whether people here accept that poll or not, it's still an official poll and thus is worthy of being cited as evidence. In that poll, the original villain Cell was surpassed in terms of votes by the modern villain Goku Black. So it is interesting, it would seem that being part of the original series doesn't automatically make you popular.

Should we rely on anecdotes and personal feelings as evidence, or on the official polls conducted by Vjump?

No I'm not saying he should come back, I'm saying the reason he is showing op in reason games is not because he is popular, but because he is an important character in the series so it would be weird not to use him, and you might as well use the great character design even if the character is not popular, that's what's happend with GT lol.

Well, Yes. He comes back in videogames solely because he's part of DBZ, the most popular series that is always adapted in videogames. Raditz always comes back too but he's not really popular, he's the Yamcha of villains.

[UpFromTheSkies]

Has anyone noticed there's no scene of Pan flying shown through all of this movie from what we've seen? We got a new CM today and Pan is shown jumping from spot to spot while kicking the RR soldiers, and then doing her best running from an explosion:

https://twitter.com/DbsHype/status/1534742783344316416

And yet the DBS anime showed us she can fly casually as a baby in many episodes.

Isn't there a scene of her flying to Gohan?

[mute_proxy]

Has anyone noticed there's no scene of Pan flying shown through all of this movie from what we've seen? We got a new CM today and Pan is shown jumping from spot to spot while kicking the RR soldiers, and then doing her best running from an explosion:

https://twitter.com/DbsHype/status/1534742783344316416

And yet the DBS anime showed us she can fly casually as a baby in many episodes.

Isn't there a scene of her flying to Gohan?

Pretty much yes: https://twitter.com/DbsHype/status/1531608202743123968

[Xeogran]

Has anyone noticed there's no scene of Pan flying shown through all of this movie from what we've seen? We got a new CM today and Pan is shown jumping from spot to spot while kicking the RR soldiers, and then doing her best running from an explosion:

https://twitter.com/DbsHype/status/1534742783344316416

And yet the DBS anime showed us she can fly casually as a baby in many episodes.

Isn't there a scene of her flying to Gohan?

Pretty much yes: https://twitter.com/DbsHype/status/1531608202743123968

Hard to say if that's flight or a power-upped jump though, the distance is too short

[Dragmobot12]

If someone here is from Japan, can someone tell me if there's gonna be like a pre-release tomorrow, a day before the actual release date?

[ObnoxiousNamek]

Hopefully this movie will be received very well and we can see them do other character-centric movies/TV series. I think it would be unseemly to release a movie under the Dragon Ball Super label and just name the project after the characters.

Ah, just what Dragon Ball needs right now. Less soul.

Ah, less of what Dragonball needs: "old man yelling at the nimbus" talk when it comes to doing something cool with this decrepit franchise

[Shorty GZ2]

https://twitter.com/DBSChronicles/statu ... uUQhg&s=19
https://twitter.com/DBSChronicles/statu ... uUQhg&s=19

(After Krillin reminds him of it, and then there's a flashback to OG DB's 23rd BT) Piccolo goes giant to battle Cell Max

https://twitter.com/DBSChronicles/statu ... 3TFvg&s=19
Boo (as usual) sleeps through the entire movie

[FPSSJ4_Goku]

If someone here is from Japan, can someone tell me if there's gonna be like a pre-release tomorrow, a day before the actual release date?

kei17's from Japan, try DMing him. (he is the guy who discovered the original broadcast audio for Dragon Ball Z; it sounds so much cleaner than what we have on official releases.

[ObnoxiousNamek]

https://twitter.com/DBSChronicles/statu ... uUQhg&s=19
https://twitter.com/DBSChronicles/statu ... uUQhg&s=19

(After Krillin reminds him of it, and then there's a flashback to OG DB's 23rd BT) Piccolo goes giant to battle Cell Max

https://twitter.com/DBSChronicles/statu ... 3TFvg&s=19
Boo (as usual) sleeps through the entire movie

"But this movie is taking such daring risks it doing something diffrent!"
"Look at the thread on the niche fansite everyone in the fanbase is excited for this!"

PHOOEY!

This is just Res F 2.0 with a raging blast filter and more nostalgia chicanery & balderdash

[SupremeKai25]

Is it just my impression, or there literally wasn't a trailer for this movie? Was this the "trailer"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5CIs0jDqC8&t=3s


It feels like this movie was only marketed through random 14 seconds long teaser clips, or is it just my impression?

We certainly didn't get a trailer this long:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHgm89hKpXU

[ObnoxiousNamek]

Is it just my impression, or there literally wasn't a trailer for this movie? Was this the "trailer"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5CIs0jDqC8&t=3s


It feels like this movie was only marketed through random 14 seconds long teaser clips, or is it just my impression?

We certainly didn't get a trailer this long:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHgm89hKpXU

Your right and it probably because the plot was thinner than a sheet of toilet paper.

Again i ask: Is the "marketing" of this new movie the actions of a animation studio that’s confident in their work?



This trailer felt like a damn MCU trailer in anime form and you could tell Toei knew it was gonna be a success out the gate

[SupremeKai25]

Is it just my impression, or there literally wasn't a trailer for this movie? Was this the "trailer"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5CIs0jDqC8&t=3s


It feels like this movie was only marketed through random 14 seconds long teaser clips, or is it just my impression?

We certainly didn't get a trailer this long:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHgm89hKpXU

Your right and it probably because the plot was thinner than a sheet of toilet paper.

Again i ask: Is the "marketing" of this new movie the actions of a animation studio that’s confident in their work?



This trailer felt like a damn MCU trailer in anime form and you could tell Toei knew it was gonna be a success out the gate

Well I don't care about the story, I don't watch a DB movie made by Toei for the story, I'm just saying that, for the last few weeks, all I see are 14 seconds clips of random scenes that I have already seen, like Gohan fighting the Gammas. And so I find this very bizarre.

By the way, that Broly trailed I linked above was from July 2018, when the movie was revealed. This movie was revealed on May 2021 (if I remember correctly), but we didn't get a trailer for the reveal of this movie, right? I wonder why that is...

[ObnoxiousNamek]

Is it just my impression, or there literally wasn't a trailer for this movie? Was this the "trailer"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5CIs0jDqC8&t=3s


It feels like this movie was only marketed through random 14 seconds long teaser clips, or is it just my impression?

We certainly didn't get a trailer this long:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHgm89hKpXU

Your right and it probably because the plot was thinner than a sheet of toilet paper.

Again i ask: Is the "marketing" of this new movie the actions of a animation studio that’s confident in their work?



This trailer felt like a damn MCU trailer in anime form and you could tell Toei knew it was gonna be a success out the gate

Well I don't care about the story, I don't watch a DB movie made by Toei for the story, I'm just saying that, for the last few weeks, all I see are 14 seconds clips of random scenes that I have already seen, like Gohan fighting the Gammas. And so I find this very bizarre.

By the way, that Broly trailed I linked above was from July 2018, when the movie was revealed. This movie was revealed on May 2021 (if I remember correctly), but we didn't get a trailer for the reveal of this movie, right? I wonder why that is...

i think the simplest answer is the correct one: they arent confident in this movie like at all. This movie is just content for content's sake and it'll make some money back i guess cause its "DORAGONBALL".

[Mr_CINDER]

Your right and it probably because the plot was thinner than a sheet of toilet paper.

Again i ask: Is the "marketing" of this new movie the actions of a animation studio that’s confident in their work?



This trailer felt like a damn MCU trailer in anime form and you could tell Toei knew it was gonna be a success out the gate

According to geekdom this movie has much more story and dialogue, but yes the overall marketing for this movie was very poor.

[SupremeKai25]

Your right and it probably because the plot was thinner than a sheet of toilet paper.

Again i ask: Is the "marketing" of this new movie the actions of a animation studio that’s confident in their work?



This trailer felt like a damn MCU trailer in anime form and you could tell Toei knew it was gonna be a success out the gate

According to geekdom this movie has much more story and dialogue, but yes the overall marketing for this movie was very poor.

Aside from BoG (which maybe was interesting because it was the first entry in the franchise after years of no activity), did anyone honestly go see RoF and Broly because of the story and dialogue? In my opinion they should have just stuck to their comfort zone and to what they do best, which is the fights.

I would not have been dissatisfied with another brainless fun movie like Broly.

[sigmasigma]

Your right and it probably because the plot was thinner than a sheet of toilet paper.

Again i ask: Is the "marketing" of this new movie the actions of a animation studio that’s confident in their work?



This trailer felt like a damn MCU trailer in anime form and you could tell Toei knew it was gonna be a success out the gate

According to geekdom this movie has much more story and dialogue, but yes the overall marketing for this movie was very poor.

Aside from BoG (which maybe was interesting because it was the first entry in the franchise after years of no activity), did anyone honestly go see RoF and Broly because of the story and dialogue? In my opinion they should have just stuck to their comfort zone and to what they do best, which is the fights.

I would not have been dissatisfied with another brainless fun movie like Broly.

Why not? Always love Dragon Ball stories. Stories make fights meaningful.

[ObnoxiousNamek]

Your right and it probably because the plot was thinner than a sheet of toilet paper.

Again i ask: Is the "marketing" of this new movie the actions of a animation studio that’s confident in their work?



This trailer felt like a damn MCU trailer in anime form and you could tell Toei knew it was gonna be a success out the gate

According to geekdom this movie has much more story and dialogue, but yes the overall marketing for this movie was very poor.

"more story"

Piccolo is attacked > Pan is kidnapped > Gohan rushes to save her > Goku, Vegeta and Broly fanservice scene > Few scenes of secondary characters > Gohan and Piccolo vs. Gamma 1 & 2 > Gohan vs. The Final Boss > The End.


[sigmasigma]

Your right and it probably because the plot was thinner than a sheet of toilet paper.

Again i ask: Is the "marketing" of this new movie the actions of a animation studio that’s confident in their work?



This trailer felt like a damn MCU trailer in anime form and you could tell Toei knew it was gonna be a success out the gate

According to geekdom this movie has much more story and dialogue, but yes the overall marketing for this movie was very poor.

"more story"

Piccolo is attacked > Pan is kidnapped > Gohan rushes to save her > Goku, Vegeta and Broly fanservice scene > Few scenes of secondary characters > Gohan and Piccolo vs. Gamma 1 & 2 > Gohan vs. The Final Boss > The End.


Should be more. Like relationship between Piccolo and Pan and character development of Gohan