Fly, flyyy!
Fly, flyyy!
Forgive me if this is more obvious than it seems, as it's been years since I've seen Dragon Ball and the beginning of DBZ, but...when exactly did Goku and co. learn how to fly? Tien, Piccolo, and Chaotzu already knew it, obviously, but as far as I remember, he uses the Nimbus to reach Raditz and fight him... and die (obviously). Again, foggy memory here, but I slightly recall him flying briefly on Snake Way, but then he stopped because it was "tiring" or something. And then when the other Z gang learn it? Maybe during the one year training?
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Kuririn first flies when he fights Piccolo at the 23rd tournament. Goku is even surprised. Goku flies into Piccolo's chest to defeat him. 
I assume it's just one of those things that they saw and picked up by trying it out, such as when Goku/Yamcha/Kuririn etc. use the Kamehameha after seeing someone else use it, or when Goku and Kuririn use the Taiyô-Ken by seeing Tenshinhan use it.
I assume it's just one of those things that they saw and picked up by trying it out, such as when Goku/Yamcha/Kuririn etc. use the Kamehameha after seeing someone else use it, or when Goku and Kuririn use the Taiyô-Ken by seeing Tenshinhan use it.
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I think he used a Kamehame-Ha foot blast to propel himself into Piccolo-daimao, and then he used it again to hit Piccolo in the stomach, I think, I'm not going all the way upstairs just to check the manga... He was rather late at learning Buku-jutsu.Storm wrote:Didn't Goku propel his body up with an energy blast? ...though I guess the rest of your statements hold true, though I would think shooting a special kind of ki blast while already knowing how to shoot basic ones would be an easier transition than going from not flying to flying.
He could still barely use Buku-jutsu at the start of Z, which is why he used Kinto'un to chase Raditz.
I'd say he finally learnt to control it when at the Serpentine road.
Then again, he uses Kinto'un to get to Vegeta and Nappa, which could indicate that he's still slower than the cloud.
By the way, does anyone know the characters for bukujutsu? Is it just ぶくう術?
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He could fly when he used Kinto-Un to get to Raditz, but preferred not to, as it still took a lot of energy. Remember, even though Piccolo Daimao, Piccolo Jr., Tenshinhan, and Chaotzu all knew how to fly, they didn't use it for travel until the Saiyajin saga. So, we can look at the training and preparations for the Saiyajins as including everyone learning to fly without wasting too much energy. And even with this in mind, flying didn't really become a key factor in combat until the Freeza saga, and it just grew out from there. In context from the start of DB til the end of Z, it's a pretty natural evolution.
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It's also kind of funny, because by the Buu saga it seems like flying is one of the easiest things you can do since that's the only technique Videl was able to master.djkalteraphine wrote: In context from the start of DB til the end of Z, it's a pretty natural evolution.
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Ah, that thought never occurred to me, it makes sense, but he was in a real hurry, and if he was faster than Kinto'un, he'd have flown there himself. He had a bag of Senzu beans too, so he could have taken one of those when he got there, I'm not sure how many he had on him to be honest.mrkaizoku wrote:He only used the Kintoun to conserve energy.The Time Traveller wrote:Then again, he uses Kinto'un to get to Vegeta and Nappa, which could indicate that he's still slower than the cloud.
Ah, I use NJStar to type in Japanese, and it's hard to get the right kanji on there, it comes up with mixed suggestions that are usually wrong for me.mrkaizoku wrote:The Time Traveller wrote:By the way, does anyone know the characters for bukujutsu? Is it just ぶくう術?
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True, but that could also be explained by Gohan learning from Piccolo, who was one of the original masters of it. I mean, Gohan learned it from Piccolo when he was 5, so he must've had a trick or two!StarrDust wrote:It's also kind of funny, because by the Buu saga it seems like flying is one of the easiest things you can do since that's the only technique Videl was able to master.djkalteraphine wrote: In context from the start of DB til the end of Z, it's a pretty natural evolution.
He only got two Senzu beans from Korin, and he ate one to recharge from the run back down Snake Way.The Time Traveller wrote:Ah, that thought never occurred to me, it makes sense, but he was in a real hurry, and if he was faster than Kinto'un, he'd have flown there himself. He had a bag of Senzu beans too, so he could have taken one of those when he got there, I'm not sure how many he had on him to be honest.
And he had to save the other one because he could sense that his friend's power levels were dropping fast and they needed it. If no one had been dying he probably would not have saved the sensu bean and used it to get his strength back after using it all up to fly there faster than the Kinto'un could.Rocketman wrote:He only got two Senzu beans from Korin, and he ate one to recharge from the run back down Snake Way.The Time Traveller wrote:Ah, that thought never occurred to me, it makes sense, but he was in a real hurry, and if he was faster than Kinto'un, he'd have flown there himself. He had a bag of Senzu beans too, so he could have taken one of those when he got there, I'm not sure how many he had on him to be honest.
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Buku-jutsu is the fancy way of saying the art of flying, at least in this context. I think.
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They do? I prefer, despite its inaccuracy, the "ninja centerfold" the manga uses - or at least did before they went back and re-edited (yes, even Naruto) it.The Time Traveller wrote:Not that fancy, though it makes me wish they didn't subtitle Sexy Jutsu as "Art of Eros" on Naruto...bkev wrote:Buku-jutsu is the fancy way of saying the art of flying, at least in this context. I think.
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I'm not sure the American DVDs have the bad subtitling, we get Ramen Noodles as "Pot Noodles" which is a brand here, and they use british words. I used to wish companies would translate things into "British" words rather than use the american subs, and it turned out bad. On the third volume they didn't use any subtitles for the Japanese track, it was dubtitled.bkev wrote:They do? I prefer, despite its inaccuracy, the "ninja centerfold" the manga uses - or at least did before they went back and re-edited (yes, even Naruto) it.The Time Traveller wrote:Not that fancy, though it makes me wish they didn't subtitle Sexy Jutsu as "Art of Eros" on Naruto...bkev wrote:Buku-jutsu is the fancy way of saying the art of flying, at least in this context. I think.
We get dub only sets and ridiculously overpriced dub/sub sets here in the US. Stupid VIZ... I'd bet they made the same mistake over here.
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