Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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chungohan
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by chungohan » Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:39 am
I heard than in some dubbed versions of Dragon Ball Super, the character Lord Beerus was called Lord Bills at some point. This is the case of the first Super movies in Spanish and Catalan (don't know about the american spanish versions) and in the Dragon Ball Super series in Spanish they changed the name in the middle of the series (we don't have a catalan dub of the series yet). So for the new movie that will be released in Spain the 2 of September, do you think both dubs will use the name Lord Beerus? Is that something mandatory from Toei Animation? Do you know if that happened in other dubs, French, English, German? Is there still any dub calling hin Lord Bills or was that corrected worldwide?
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by Gokrim » Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:31 pm
Here in Brazil is "Bills" too...
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by Dragon Ball Ireland » Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:40 am
I remember before the English dub of Battle of Gods was released fans called him "Bills" but since then, with the dub going with "Beerus" or "Lord Beerus" those are the names the fandom has adapted.
I don't think there would be a mandate from TOEI, I think whatever name other dubs like the Iberian Spanish and Catalan settled on they will retain in their Super Hero dub for consistency.
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by batistabus » Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:30 am
When BoG news started trickling out from Japan, fans localized "Birusu" as "Bills", including in English-speaking countries. I believe
SaiyaJedi asked someone on the Japanese production side if the name was a pun on pilsner, which was close, but not correct. Eventually, the folks at Kanzenshuu figured out the origin of the pun,
being a mix between "Beers" and "Virus"; the original planned villain of BoG was called Virus (still Birusu), but Toriyama mistakenly thought it was an alcohol pun (hence Whis). Kanzenshuu combined the puns and went with "Beerus".
This approach apparently appealed to Chris Sabat, and thus Beerus was used in the official English release. Spanish and Portuguese countries stuck with what was already commonly used as the character's name online.
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by ChronoTwigger » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:17 pm
Bills in Italy too.
I think all latin languages changed to Bills for easiness of speech.
There's also a translation argument. Using the phonetical system is in fact "BEEH L {u}SS".. We don't have muted letters in latin (a japanese ear could probably perceive it by the tongue rounding), so it's just elided, leading to the simplified BILLS.
To be spelled as intended it should have been "BEE LASS" since the start.
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by chungohan » Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:34 am
AFAIK, the name Bills changed to Beerus in the Spanish dub at some point of the Super series because an international requirement from Toei Animation existed. That is why I wanted to know if that happened in other languages too

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by jjbgood » Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:10 am
In Germany he was called "Bills" in videogames like Xenoverse, who came out before Battle of Gods or the Super anime. The Movies, the Anime and the manga are using "Beerus". But all the Videogames and some things like trading cards or sticker albums are using "Bills". But i guess they are not translated in germany, because they all do the same naming mistakes. Goku Black, wich of course is also named Goku Black in the german manga and anime, get also called "Goku Schwarz" (Schwarz = Black in german), wich doesnt make any sense at all, because its a name.
But nobody here says "Goku Schwarz" or "Bills", because manga and anime translators are not stupid

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by Luso Saiyan » Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:48 pm
chungohan wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:34 am
AFAIK, the name Bills changed to Beerus in the Spanish dub at some point of the Super series because an international requirement from Toei Animation existed. That is why I wanted to know if that happened in other languages too
In Portugal it never changed from Bills. Last weekend they aired
Battle of Gods (subtitled), and for some reason the ads typed "Birusu", but I checked the sub and it remains Bills.