The live action Sailor Moon has been found (and why it matters)

[eledoremassis02]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L67YFwnQCQ

This lady has found the long lost original live action/animated Sailor Moon pilot at the Library of Congress

Makes me wonder what Dragon Ball related items are there, at the very least I'd assume thats where a higher quality Harmony Gold lay.

[MasenkoHA]

I saw. Suddenly the old dub of Sailor Moon doesn't look so bad.

[Inkei9001]

Of all places the library of Congress just seems weird for what it is.

Dunno what could be left of HG though. we know that they trashed at least one audio tape. most of their other archives were sent back to toei or lost in that fire. Unless edited film somehow found it's way into the hands of a group like kineko what would there be? Honest question. especially since the fan recut of dragon box exists

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

I saw. Suddenly the old dub of Sailor Moon doesn't look so bad.

I saw the DiC dub when I was really young but don't remember much of it. I'm given to believe it's similar in style to Funimation's first 2 edited seasons of Z with the Ocean cast, and has that "ironically good" feel to it?

This is interesting nonetheless. Maybe the Library of Congress has the Vendar dub?

[Inkei9001]

I saw. Suddenly the old dub of Sailor Moon doesn't look so bad.

Same but even Viz new dub made the old one look good from a VA perspective

[MasenkoHA]

I saw. Suddenly the old dub of Sailor Moon doesn't look so bad.

I saw the DiC dub when I was really young but don't remember much of it. I'm given to believe it's similar in style to Funimation's first 2 edited seasons of Z with the Ocean cast, and has that "ironically good" feel to it?

That sounds about right yeah

I saw. Suddenly the old dub of Sailor Moon doesn't look so bad.

Same but even Viz new dub made the old one look good from a VA perspective

Yeah. Honestly I think that's a Studiopolis thing. I remember that studio also handled that dub of the Digimon Revenge of Diaboramon that aired on Toon Disney when I was about in middle school. Even though they managed to get most of the same cast everyone seemed so bored and disinterested from what I recall.
And it's not like the dub for Sailor Moon was lacking in talent.
There's an alternate universe somewhere where ViZ still used Ocean Group as their go to recording studio and we got a much better sounding Sailor Moon dub from them

[Wrigglything]

Yeah, I'm glad it is finally found for us to look at an alternate Timeline where Sailor Moon and other Japanese IPs were Westernised to the max. I do see a vague blur for a Dragon Ball too? Or something akin to that, idk.

I do think it is interesting for the Library of Congress to be considered a place where potential lost media might be stored and found, and after all they also stored the Sesame Street Wicked Witch episode too.

Gotta love the theme song, though, it's honestly a bop.

Though it makes me wonder how an American Dragon Ball cartoon would look or feel like. Would it take cues from the anime and maybe even mix in movie content like Turles and Broly and original anime stuff like Ssj4 onto one continuity? The possibilities, however bad it could be, is endless.

[WittyUsername]

Is the Viz dub of Sailor Moon really bad from a VA perspective? I’ve only seen bits and pieces of it, but it seems like any other post-2000s dub, which I’d consider a step up over the DiC dub.

[Soppa Saia People]

it's fine, it's a little stiff but i wouldn't call it bad, and i'm kind of a dogmatic sailor moon with regards too...everything, but i don't have a lot of complaints. i think they do a bit better with crystal though.

[WittyUsername]

it's fine, it's a little stiff but i wouldn't call it bad, and i'm kind of a dogmatic sailor moon with regards too...everything, but i don't have a lot of complaints. i think they do a bit better with crystal though.

If you ask me, English dubs that try to keep the dialogue as close to the Japanese version as possible tend to sound stiff, especially when it requires the characters to make pauses in the middle of their sentences to match the lip flaps. I’ve been watching the Baki dub on Netflix, and a lot of the dialogue can sound rather awkward and repetitive.

[MasenkoHA]

Is the Viz dub of Sailor Moon really bad from a VA perspective? I’ve only seen bits and pieces of it, but it seems like any other post-2000s dub, which I’d consider a step up over the DiC dub.

Honestly, yeah. It always sounded very fandubish to me
Which is sad because, like I said before, it was hardly lacking in talent. It boasted a lot of talented and veteran dub actors like Barbara Goodson, Johnny Yong Bosch, Wendee Lee, and Veronica Taylor. So seeing such a mediocre product get churned out was disappointing.

I heard somewhere that it's low quality was because Viz and Studiopolis weren't used to dubbing an old show (as in a show that was over 20 years old when they got to it). Which, if thats true all the more reason Funimation should have gotten the license like they were trying for circa 2012. As doing Dragon Ball so late gave them experience in that very thing. Ironic since they definitely didn't deserve the Dragon Ball license and only obtained it through nepotism.

. i think they do a bit better with crystal though.

I'll add from what I have seen of Crystal (The Eternal movie dub on Netflix, the first 3 or 4 episodes of season 1 and bits and pieces of later stuff) it does seem much better than their dub of the 92 anime. I do think the actress cast for Rei was much more suited for the more faithful to the manga version of Rei in Crystal than the 92 anime. But the DiC dub version of Rei was my favorite of that cast so bias there

[eledoremassis02]

Yeah, I'm glad it is finally found for us to look at an alternate Timeline where Sailor Moon and other Japanese IPs were Westernised to the max. I do see a vague blur for a Dragon Ball too? Or something akin to that, idk.

I do think it is interesting for the Library of Congress to be considered a place where potential lost media might be stored and found, and after all they also stored the Sesame Street Wicked Witch episode too.

Gotta love the theme song, though, it's honestly a bop.

Though it makes me wonder how an American Dragon Ball cartoon would look or feel like. Would it take cues from the anime and maybe even mix in movie content like Turles and Broly and original anime stuff like Ssj4 onto one continuity? The possibilities, however bad it could be, is endless.

Did a quick search to see whats up, there are some episodes and it appears a good amount in Japanese nothing breaking tho
https://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/search?se ... 5&sk=en_US

Might need to do some creative searching since some of their information seems to not be very accurate

Dragonball Z. Captain Ginyu assault / produced by Funimation Productions, Inc., Saban Entertainment, Ocean Group ; director, Barry Watson ; producers, Daniel Cocanougher, Barry Watson ; writers, Ian Corlett, Chris Forbis, Gregg Hurwitz, Gregg Hurwitz, Christopher Neel.

[Soppa Saia People]

If you ask me, English dubs that try to keep the dialogue as close to the Japanese version as possible tend to sound stiff, especially when it requires the characters to make pauses in the middle of their sentences to match the lip flaps. I’ve been watching the Baki dub on Netflix, and a lot of the dialogue can sound rather awkward and repetitive.

i'm willingly to look past it w/r/t sm given its history in america and dubbing, i think they really wanted to establish the property as like, what it actually is, and give a more accurate version then what most non hardcore fans idea of it actually was. if the original dub didn't have its reputation both within the fanbase and out of it, i would be a bit more harsh but i understand where they were coming from. plus seasons 1, 3, and 4 are always gonna be some of the best TV no matter what.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

And it's not like the dub for Sailor Moon was lacking in talent.
There's an alternate universe somewhere where ViZ still used Ocean Group as their go to recording studio and we got a much better sounding Sailor Moon dub from them

It would've been really cool if Pioneer had been able to get the rights to make an uncut dub of the OG Sailor Moon anime run back in 1997/1998 that was on the level of the DBZ movies 1-3 dubs with the Ocean Studios cast.

[Wrigglything]

If you ask me, English dubs that try to keep the dialogue as close to the Japanese version as possible tend to sound stiff, especially when it requires the characters to make pauses in the middle of their sentences to match the lip flaps..

Mid sentence sentence breaks is my biggest dubbing pet peeve lol. Even though I understand the presence of it, especially if the production is very rushed or constrained, I just wish that they at least change those parts first to have some sort of natural break instead of a pause that feels so stiff. I notice this is done on a lot of early dubs, especially Hong Kong English dubs back I when they were the hot thing to do, but this is not done too much these days thankfully, barring some international dubs that still suffer from this issue unfortunately. Although that didn't stop the Violet Evergarden dub from suffering the same issue, though the dubs from the OVA and movie have thankfully remedied this issue at the very least.

[supersaiyamangod]

Kinda off topic but I wish the current English voice of sailor moon was the voice of excel in excel saga for the sailor moon joke because her Japanese voice is the actual voice of sailor moon to make that joke just as funny in English.

[Cure Dragon 255]

I really really really love both Viz and DiC dubs for Sailor Moon. I know the Viz one is a bit clunky early on and has some very weird translation choices but It REALLY shines from R forwards.