Piccolo would have to be above 3,500. Nail said that Piccolo has an "astonishing amount of power", and that he couldn't believe he was that powerful, because he didn't know what sort of training Piccolo had. If Piccolo was only that strong, he would barely be above the standard warrior namek.
Piccolo also states that he "gained incredible power" while he's telepathically talkin to Gohan. I don't think he should be any weaker then 10,000 with that quote alone.
It just feels way too off for him to have made any kinds of major power gains while on King Kai's. I mean, even if you take the average daily gains he made on Earth training for the Saiya-jins and amplify them 10x over you still get a power of 4,008 after 6 days. Course, I have the same trouble wraping my head around Goku's Zenkai on Namek....
I don't know, I just always pegged that "wow, you're pretty strong" reaction to being a "There's a Namek I don't know of who's on level with our warriors?" type thing.
Guess we'll just chalk it up to some sort of special Namekian training techniques that give exponentially higher increases in higher gravity levels. Still can't see him as more than 9,000 though.
They would state something saying that he has some secret form of energy, but no such thing is stated.
They do mention it being different, actually. They make a direct refrence to the fact is uses the users life force.
About what Xyex said... You can't really take in consideration the improvements the characters did because as the series progressed they grew far strong in power in less time.
Not really. Their best gains were during the Namek era. After that things tappered back off again. Powers
seemed to surge during the Android saga because of the advent of the 'SSJU levels', mastering SSJ, and SSJ2. But those a bonus power, like with the Kaioken. Goku's power increased to around 8k training in Otherworld but he could manage up to around 32k via the Kaioken. The SSJ stuff is the same. Don't forget that small gains in base equal massive gains when transformed thus making gains later look far greater than they actually are.
I mean, check Goku training with kami for 3 years and Ten Shin Han for less than 6 months. It doesn't make sense that a saiyan gets less power than a human in more years.
Or Vegeta training in 300 gravity for 3 years and then in just a few months in the ROSAT he got an even greater boost....
Nah. He made larger general gains in the 3 years prior to the Androids. All of his RoSaT power was from the SSJU form.
Considering their lack of transformations, or deeper reserves of any kind, I don't see that. Assuming they were each about 60,000, we would basically have to assume that their power would randomly quadruple after fusion. Adding their power together would get you something on par with their captain. Multiplying their power together would get you... well... a supreme being whom no character in the history of the series would have ever been able to touch.
We know that fusion yields a HUGE increase in power. Far more than simply adding A and B to each other, especially with the Potara's were the stronger person doesn't have to lower their power to match the weaker one. We know this because of how much power Gotenks had in comparison to Trunks and Goten. Base Gotenks got battered up pretty good but not much worse than Majin Vegeta had and there's no way either of them are half of Majin Vegeta's power in their base forms.
I figure with Jeice and Burter at 50,000 each that a fusion (either one, since their powers are the same) would produce a power of 500k. Enough to match somewhat well with first form Freeza.
He overcame the gravity difference and sparred with the others. Manga-wise they don't really show much, but that doesn't mean no training took place. Kaio tells Goku they'll be training, so it isn't a stretch to assume the regimen would be an accelerated version of what Goku received. Keep in mind that the manga doesn't show much training with Kami, but we know Yamcha, Kuririn, and Tenshinhan more or less improved ten times over.
I was going by what I remembered in the anime. When they showed that it basicly stated that Piccolo hadn't trained with them and had ignored King Kai since his arrival and just sat there meditating the entire time.
As for the Kami stuff, I can see that happening. In the case of the humans they 1) have sparring partners and 2) Didn't have to work on the 'basics' as much as it seemed Goku did. They were able to devote more time to outright training AND had people to fight with as oposed to solo training which one would expect to be slower. (And I don't have any of them increasing more than 7.5 fold in the year they had.)
That's an interesting formula, but I tend to think that the focus would be less on "strongest power" and more on base body (in both cases, this is Piccolo). To put another way, Nail just had his shit royally wrecked. He may have clocked 42,000 before fighting Freeza, but unless fusion acts as a quick Dende-style fix, there shouldn't have been 42k floating around for Piccolo to grab.
Eh, I just made that up for the hell of it, really.
But anyway, I don't see who the base is mattering in the slightest. And as for Nail's power, just because he'd been beaten half to death doesn't mean his body was no longer able to produce the level of strength once healed. I see no reason why Nail's cells wouldn't have regenerated upon merging with Piccolo's since Piccolo had the energy left for regeneration. So Nail's power capicity would have been brought back to full during the fusion.
How else would Piccolo have gained so much from fusing with Kami? that had more to do with his "completion" and what he learned from Kami than from a powr boost (since last we checked Kami was weaker than Ma Junior at the end of DB and he doesn't exactly train).
Piccolo and Kami are a unique case, though. We don't know what effect the original split may have had on Daimou or Kami's powers or whatever. For all we know the fusion effect was doubled or trippled or even maybe 20x greater because of their convoluted relationship.
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