Knowing that Dragon Ball Super exists, how would you rewrite Dragon Ball GT?

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Knowing that Dragon Ball Super exists, how would you rewrite Dragon Ball GT?

Post by Geraldo » Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:10 pm

How would you write Dragon Ball GT from scratch if you were hired?
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Re: How would you rewrite Dragon Ball GT?

Post by TheGreatness25 » Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:56 am

Would you expand on what you mean? Do you mean how we'd execute the ideas, characters, and story presented in GT? Do you just mean how we'd write a sequel to Z ignoring Super? Do you mean how we'd write a sequel to Super? Do you mean how we'd execute the ideas and characters presented in GT to fit in Super?

Because if it's just a matter of outlining a sequel, it doesn't need to be "GT," so I guess that's where my disconnect is. How much of GT do we need to keep?

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Re: How would you rewrite Dragon Ball GT?

Post by Geraldo » Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:14 am

I meant: How would you write it from scratch.

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Re: Knowing that Dragon Ball Super exists, how would you rewrite Dragon Ball GT?

Post by GokuHater » Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:07 am

At first I wanted to say nothing would really have to change that much but after keeping thinking about it, I started seeing otherwise.

First of all Saiyan powers. We cannot have a SSJ3 as the strongest form from the beginning for obvious reasons. The strongest form/technique at that point would probably be UI.
Now there are couple of ways to write around this.
Eg. let's say the wish turing Goku into a kid somehow locked his god ki and the most usefull form had become SSJ3 again. In order to make a difference another form must be achieved - one that stands in a contrast to god powers.

Another idea I have is to retcon Golden Oozaru as a form which only can be unlocked after the user tasted god ki - maybe make the Oozaru white, tho that would look bad :P
SSJ4 would then be a mix of god forms and Saiyan power from within or something like that. Maybe Goku's own way to use UI as to stay true to things established in the Granolah arc?

Another idea is to have a SSJ4 as an alternate line of forms - one with SSJG, SSJB, UI representing gods and angels and SSJ4 representing Saiyan raw power. We could have Broly pioneering it this time as it already goes a little this way in the Broly movie.

Next... Beerus and Whis. Truthfully I cannot think of a single one usage of them throughout the GT plot, so I am gonna cheat and use a very simple explanation that before the stroy he had an epic showdown with Goku and Vegeta and after that he went... To sleep.
It has been established Beerus sleeps for decades while Whis watches over him so I don't see why he shouldn't do so after the universe seem in eqalibrum after EoZ.

Black star DB arc
Baby arc
Android 17 arc
Shadow Dragon arc
And that's that :D
Took a bit more time than I thought, I know the ideas for it are not fully fleshed out and not all are ideal but I at least had fun.

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Re: How would you rewrite Dragon Ball GT?

Post by TheGreatness25 » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:54 am

Geraldo wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:14 am I meant: How would you write it from scratch.
Oh, so just a sequel to Super.

Honestly, this could literally be anything. Doesn't have to have anything to do with GT. In that case, why have anything to do with GT? Scrap everything--including the title--and start from scratch.

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Re: Knowing that Dragon Ball Super exists, how would you rewrite Dragon Ball GT?

Post by JulieYBM » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:57 am

Pan is the central figure of Dragon Ball GT and in a lot of ways she 'challenged' the established characters of Dragon Ball, like Gokuu and Trunks. When you're introducing a new POV character like Pan it is important to have her challenge established elements of the franchise like that, so I would actually like to continue that in a remake of Dragon Ball GT that is built off of Dragon Ball Super. Pan should be the focal character and we should see her grow and advance in a way that lets her challenge the established notions of the franchise up to that point and surpass them. Not only does that create a sense of conflict but it helps create a sense of something new occuring. In everyway one can imagine, Pan needs to challenge the notions of Dragon Ball as a series, its established characters and ideas.

This can still be accomplished while following a general outline of the series, although hopefully done in a much shorter length. The series would fit far better as a 39 episode series instead of 64 episodes.
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Re: Knowing that Dragon Ball Super exists, how would you rewrite Dragon Ball GT?

Post by Koitsukai » Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:19 pm

Beerus is defeated by Goku(or not), and steps down from office, goes to U6 to retire and drive Champa crazy, Vegeta gets hired as U7 Hakaishin.

Non-Pilaf gang shrinks Goku but with a cerelian-like set of the Super DBs. Smaller but deadlier, so they have to gather them before one year passes or the Earth disappears.
Baby turns out to be likeable, and just wants justice, only wants to exterminate the saiyans, 0 desires of slaving human kind. If UI will end up being usable in every form, then Goku can use Broly's unique power up and mix it up with SS and unlock SS4. Baby could hijack Hakaishin Vegeta's body and trash Gohan, Piccolo, Gotenks, etc.

S-17 arc, please let's just forget all about this one. It's the Armin Tanzarian of DB. Some adventure in another universe, Goku, Pan, Uub, Gotenks saving U11 or something like that, fighting with Toppo, Jiren and some new recruits. I dunno, something to leave Earth breath a little.

Shadow Dragons of the SDB. Gather SS4 Goku, Hakaishin Vegeta, LSS Broly, Beast Gohan, Orange Piccolo, Beast Pan, Majuub, Gotenks. More like Digimon's Dark Masters instead of the baddie of the week GT ended up having.

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Re: Knowing that Dragon Ball Super exists, how would you rewrite Dragon Ball GT?

Post by theherodjl » Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:54 am

It would kinda be pointless for SSJ4 to exist as a mere power up from SSJ3 when there is already a multitude of forms significantly higher than SSJ3 and so, being an improvement over an archaic SSJ level doesn't have much meaning in the context of a DBS GT-sequel. I would rather it be an ancestral state of the Saiyans that gradually broke off many thousands of years even before Yamoshi's time and possibly have been what Saiyans originally were; a race of feral yet very powerful monkey men. It could be explained that the proto-Saiyans eventually faced increasingly arduous conditions to their survival and had to evolve into more intelligent, less powerful beings in order to ensure their race's lineage. Whenever a Saiyan turns into an Oozaru or a SSJ, they are connecting to a piece of a forgotten heritage but in order to fully unlock it, they must be exposed to what they originally were. I wouldn't mind if that was a reason to use time travel again or maybe visit a universe in which the proto-Saiyans still lived.
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Re: Knowing that Dragon Ball Super exists, how would you rewrite Dragon Ball GT?

Post by Zephyr » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:35 am

I'm sure I have other ideas, but most importantly I would keep Vegeta's mustache and cropped hair intact.

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Re: Knowing that Dragon Ball Super exists, how would you rewrite Dragon Ball GT?

Post by MasenkoHA » Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:24 am

I'd at least properly nerf Goku as a child. It's weird to me that that was the reason given for turning him into a kid again and he was no less powerful than he was by the end of Z.

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Re: Knowing that Dragon Ball Super exists, how would you rewrite Dragon Ball GT?

Post by Cursed Lemon » Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:50 pm

What I want to do is delete GT entirely (and also the first two DBS movies) and incorporate the Dragon-Ball-overuse concept by turning Earth's Dragon Balls into "time bombs" that will wipe the entire galaxy or even the entire universe within x-amount of time if they are not addressed. This necessitates the use of the Super Dragon Balls, but these Dragon Balls are actually spread out across other universes and thus have never been used before. This gives us a chance for the heroes to actually explore the other universes, get to know new casts of characters, and have interesting adventures - for example, one of the universes can have them encounter Baby. Then, when the Tournament of Power arc comes along, we will have a legitimate investment into what happens over the course of the tournament.

Have Supreme Kai clue the heroes into the existence of Beerus and the gods. Beerus and Whis can tell Goku that they'll allow passage across universes if Goku can entertain Beerus with a good fight, this will cover our "Battle of the Gods" arc. Meanwhile, have Freeza follow the same path of training and becoming Golden Freeza, presenting an antagonistic force that is looking to gather the Super Dragon Balls before the heroes. This will also give us a chance to properly develop an arc for Zamasu over the course of these adventures, observing Freeza's acts of destruction and cruelty throughout multiple universes (including, perhaps, reckless acts committed by our hero team) instead of just "herp derp saw a non-sapient race having an argument, time to wipe out all life in the multiverse". All of this will allow us to have one coherent arc across the entire DBS series which will be capped off by the Tournament of Power serving as the ultimate series battle royale.

Let Goku continue down the path of the Super Saiyan God. Find some plot device to restore Vegeta's tail and let him claim ownership over Super Saiyan 4 and whatever advanced forms we feel like tacking onto it. Have Goten and Trunks actually train (and, you know, maybe age) and give their fusion something to do. Have Gohan and Piccolo explore one of the universes together, do some character introspection between them, and let this serve as Gohan's wakeup call that he needs to get his act together. Let 18 be the one to convince 17 to join the cause. We can get a cool brother-sister battle, we can also have some banter between 17 and Krillin.

So many things could be done here.
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