Miracles wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:09 am
Stopped at cult of Zalama.
Dude, same
People have this habit of clinging to throwaway lore statements made in guidebooks or pamphlets instead of just taking it for a it is. Just a rando comment about something that isn’t really THAT important in the grand scheme or hold no real weight on things we saw in the comics or show.
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Also, the image and premise screams "fake".
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Bardock God of Time wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:54 pm
The cliffhanger of the Granolah arc seems to lead into another Frieza arc tbh. (IK the "leak" is fake)
I feel the cliffhanger opened itself for future arcs, but not the immediately next arc.
With DB (Z, GT, and S too), have we really ever had a good betrayal moment? I always feel these make for great storylines. Doesn't even have to be a current Z warrior, could introduce someone who could implement that notion arcs down the line.
Bardock God of Time wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:54 pm
The cliffhanger of the Granolah arc seems to lead into another Frieza arc tbh. (IK the "leak" is fake)
I feel the cliffhanger opened itself for future arcs, but not the immediately next arc.
With DB (Z, GT, and S too), have we really ever had a good betrayal moment? I always feel these make for great storylines. Doesn't even have to be a current Z warrior, could introduce someone who could implement that notion arcs down the line.
-The best example I can think of is Dende, in GT, giving the DBs to Baby. The consequences of that betrayal - he was possessed, though- were big.
-Second best is Vegeta letting Cell perfect his body, although he wasn't actually betraying anybody's trust. He never pretended to be on the hero's side, he was vocal about his intentions, so I'm not sure if it counts as betrayal.
-Vegeta also betrayed Freeza back in Namek. That was textbook betrayal.
-The Heatas betrayed Granola after he got his wish granted.
Koitsukai wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:12 pm
-The best example I can think of is Dende, in GT, giving the DBs to Baby. The consequences of that betrayal - he was possessed, though- were big.
-Second best is Vegeta letting Cell perfect his body, although he wasn't actually betraying anybody's trust. He never pretended to be on the hero's side, he was vocal about his intentions, so I'm not sure if it counts as betrayal.
-Vegeta also betrayed Freeza back in Namek. That was textbook betrayal.
-The Heatas betrayed Granola after he got his wish granted.
Ooh, good examples.
The Namek arc also gave us a sympathetic betrayal that had big consequences: Nail going back on his word to the Grand Elder to help the humans against the Ginyus. Could've really fucked everyone there. Then there's Vegeta also bouncing when he promised to help Goku against Ginyu himself.
That in-hindsight-obviously-fake leak about a horror arc really got me hankering for something like that. But then again, I'd have higher expectations of a more comedic arc after Toyotaro said he took inspiration from Super Hero.
The whole concept about 12 universes in DB always felt like something pretty cool to me back to Battle of Gods (2013), too bad we never had them to be proper developed...
I mean Earth after OG DB felt pretty small, Namek was a dull planet, I liked that GT explored better the Universe (7) than most of Z and I expected Super to do the same stuff with these new universes, but the only that are mid developed are 6 and 11?
Maybe Toriyama is not much into world building, but I always felt like a miss from this series who introduces a universe full of interesting people and mechanics.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Something to look forward to, high time for some Goten and Trunks in the lead roles. If I don't get a proper teen Gotenks this time, someone will pay dearly. Thank you.
Looking forward to it! Sounds like a nice change of pace from the last two arcs. Still, pretty interesting they're not moving past Super Hero. There must be something else in store for that, probably.
This pretty much confirms that the manga and the new movies exist in the same story. I figured that this whole time, but I’ve seen a lot of people say that Super Hero isn’t canon to the story of DBS.
Nice to see Goten and Trunks having a lead role. I imagine this’ll be a much shorter arc compared to Moro and Granolah.
Super Saiyan Swagger wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:57 am
This pretty much confirms that the manga and the new movies exist in the same story. I figured that this whole time, but I’ve seen a lot of people say that Super Hero isn’t canon to the story of DBS.
Nice to see Goten and Trunks having a lead role. I imagine this’ll be a much shorter arc compared to Moro and Granolah.
That's a strange position for them to take considering there comic itself practically screams "Go watch Movies #19-20! We don't have time to do story arcs for them in this comic!"
Not … feeling too enthused for this, since they show up in both Super Hero and the original epilogue in such minor roles. With this being a prequel to both, we know nothing radical can happen.
It could be a fun enough one-off, but it’s limiting itself so much out of the gate, even in terms of how much it’s characters can do. It really reminds me of the “Your favorites are here!” mindset the story buckles under in the Earthlings vs. Moro’s goons chapters, but nostalgic favorites getting a spotlight doesn’t get me inherently excited like something with more forward momentum does…
We’ll see though! Just my reaction right out of the gate, for posterity.
It's unfortunate that the time of the plot was set before Super Hero, because it kills more room for maneuver and takes away the possibility of a more important role for Goten and Trunks in the future.
For all sincerity, I am not excited for this Goten and Trunks placement in the front. I have never liked them.
It also feels like they have ran out of ideas how to take the story out of Universe 7, and/or rushing the story to the limits of the 10 years timeslot Dragon Ball Super is supposed to occur in because of online complaints. I feel like that was done just to shush some of the modern critics off, rather than completing the story the way they originally planned to (story arcs being relatively close in time to one another).
its cool they are trying to do something different. away from the Goku and Vegeta show... but... as a prequel to super hero, where they were introduced as even imcapable of fusion... i dont know. could work as a comedic arc, or as well a little bit to give them characters apart form being comic reliefs... but... i doubt it...
i really hoped super would finally go after EoZ...
but maybe they are just trying to fill the gap between Granolah and Super Hero. There is a possibility its not a straight time jump arc but more like a bridge, with lot of slice of life to will the gap. More about Pan and Piccolos relationship, more about their training, how did Broly end up on Beerus planet, how did it start with piccolos stuff animal collection, you know, just stuff that happend in the movie prior, but now fleshed out... i would like that, i think.
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