General Blue

[supersaiyamangod]

Only asking here so i don’t have to make a new unnecessary thread does anyone know why they added him liking a certain character in the dr slump in the anime stuff because 1) it’s gross 2) it doesn’t add anything it’s a change that doesn’t make any sense to me.

[JulieYBM]

Only asking here so i don’t have to make a new unnecessary thread does anyone know why they added him liking a certain character in the dr slump in the anime stuff because 1) it’s gross 2) it doesn’t add anything it’s a change that doesn’t make any sense to me.

Queer people are typically depicted as sex abusers in media, especially older media.

Cisgender and heterosexual people hate us and have for centuries thanks to propaganda by white supremacists and organized religion. These things inevitably seeped into art and mainstream depictions of queer people.

[Gaffer Tape]

Only asking here so i don’t have to make a new unnecessary thread does anyone know why they added him liking a certain character in the dr slump in the anime stuff because 1) it’s gross 2) it doesn’t add anything it’s a change that doesn’t make any sense to me.

Well, it's quite simple: moral panic. In society, homosexuality has often been treated as degeneracy. As such, it gets linked to dangerous and abusive sexual behavior, like pedophilia. While those attitudes are (thankfully) diminishing in modern discourse, they still persist. Just look at the current culture war about "grooming" used heavily within the past year or two as a homophobic and transphobic dog whistle.

Anyway, with that context, we can see Toei's mindset. General Blue is, if not explicitly confirmed, at least heavily implied by other characters to be gay. In their minds, gayness is linked to pedophilia and promiscuity. So, haha, wouldn't it be funny if he had a crush on the robot boy? No, it's gross and sick and promotes harmful stereotypes. But it was 1987, so they thought it was funny.

[Seekeroftruth]

Speaking of general blue, did anyone notice the Nazi sympathizing subplot inserted into the DB Super: Superheroes film? I'm referring to the two new androids being absolved of their sins by using the excuse "we were just following orders" and thus being turned into good guys. As we know the Red ribbon army are based off Nazis and having those two saying this line just seems a little too close to home.

[supersaiyamangod]

Only asking here so i don’t have to make a new unnecessary thread does anyone know why they added him liking a certain character in the dr slump in the anime stuff because 1) it’s gross 2) it doesn’t add anything it’s a change that doesn’t make any sense to me.

Well, it's quite simple: moral panic. In society, homosexuality has often been treated as degeneracy. As such, it gets linked to dangerous and abusive sexual behavior, like pedophilia. While those attitudes are (thankfully) diminishing in modern discourse, they still persist. Just look at the current culture war about "grooming" used heavily within the past year or two as a homophobic and transphobic dog whistle.

Anyway, with that context, we can see Toei's mindset. General Blue is, if not explicitly confirmed, at least heavily implied by other characters to be gay. In their minds, gayness is linked to pedophilia and promiscuity. So, haha, wouldn't it be funny if he had a crush on the robot boy? No, it's gross and sick and promotes harmful stereotypes. But it was 1987, so they thought it was funny.

How is that humor that’s gross not funny but if I had to put modern day equivalent to it sadly it’s the equivalent to Jared fogel in the South Park fractured but whole game. but i would have preferred them to keep manga general blue intact despite the issue that remain in that version.

[PurestEvil]

Speaking of general blue, did anyone notice the Nazi sympathizing subplot inserted into the DB Super: Superheroes film? I'm referring to the two new androids being absolved of their sins by using the excuse "we were just following orders" and thus being turned into good guys. As we know the Red ribbon army are based off Nazis and having those two saying this line just seems a little too close to home.

How is the entire Red Ribbon Army based off the Nazis? All I know is that only General Blue's character design was based off a Nazi, being blond and dressed in an SA uniform and all.

[JulieYBM]

Only asking here so i don’t have to make a new unnecessary thread does anyone know why they added him liking a certain character in the dr slump in the anime stuff because 1) it’s gross 2) it doesn’t add anything it’s a change that doesn’t make any sense to me.

Well, it's quite simple: moral panic. In society, homosexuality has often been treated as degeneracy. As such, it gets linked to dangerous and abusive sexual behavior, like pedophilia. While those attitudes are (thankfully) diminishing in modern discourse, they still persist. Just look at the current culture war about "grooming" used heavily within the past year or two as a homophobic and transphobic dog whistle.

Anyway, with that context, we can see Toei's mindset. General Blue is, if not explicitly confirmed, at least heavily implied by other characters to be gay. In their minds, gayness is linked to pedophilia and promiscuity. So, haha, wouldn't it be funny if he had a crush on the robot boy? No, it's gross and sick and promotes harmful stereotypes. But it was 1987, so they thought it was funny.

How is that humor that’s gross not funny but if I had to put modern day equivalent to it sadly it’s the equivalent to Jared fogel in the South Park fractured but whole game. but i would have preferred them to keep manga general blue intact despite the issue that remain in that version.

They view queer people as jokes meant to be laughed at, feared and ridiculed. It has fucked up generations of queer people and continues to happen both in fiction and news media.

It sucks a lot.

[supersaiyamangod]

Well, it's quite simple: moral panic. In society, homosexuality has often been treated as degeneracy. As such, it gets linked to dangerous and abusive sexual behavior, like pedophilia. While those attitudes are (thankfully) diminishing in modern discourse, they still persist. Just look at the current culture war about "grooming" used heavily within the past year or two as a homophobic and transphobic dog whistle.

Anyway, with that context, we can see Toei's mindset. General Blue is, if not explicitly confirmed, at least heavily implied by other characters to be gay. In their minds, gayness is linked to pedophilia and promiscuity. So, haha, wouldn't it be funny if he had a crush on the robot boy? No, it's gross and sick and promotes harmful stereotypes. But it was 1987, so they thought it was funny.

How is that humor that’s gross not funny but if I had to put modern day equivalent to it sadly it’s the equivalent to Jared fogel in the South Park fractured but whole game. but i would have preferred them to keep manga general blue intact despite the issue that remain in that version.

They view queer people as jokes meant to be laughed at, feared and ridiculed. It has fucked up generations of queer people and continues to happen both in fiction and news media.

It sucks a lot.

I’m not condoning it I’m saying I’d prefer that than keeping that awful anime only unfunny change that’s all. if those were the only two choices i choose keep him manga accurate not add something not in the manga.

[Hellspawn28]

I'm surpised that someone bump a thread from 2011.

[supersaiyamangod]

I'm surpised that someone bump a thread from 2011.

It was either that or make new thread on this which I 100 didn’t think it deserve so this seemed like the better option.