Someone today tried to argue DBZ Buuhan and up are stronger than Beerus
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Someone today tried to argue DBZ Buuhan and up are stronger than Beerus
Buuhan's universe destroying feat puts him on Zeno level apprantly.
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Re: Someone today tried to argue DBZ Buuhan and up are stronger than Beerus
1) That's Anime-only and so you can apply it only to Anime DBS at best.
2) BoG SSG Goku and BoG Beerus (who was using only 10% of his power) were casually going to destroy the Universe with their kicks and punches. Anyone who scales above BoG SSG Goku and BoG 10% Beerus is above that, and there is a literal infinity of characters from Super who scale above that.
3) Since we're clearly talking about Animeverse (since that feat is Anime only), where Goku absorbed the power of SSG in his lower forms, then Buuhan is truly not impressive at all. Even someone like Apprentice Present Zamasu or Cabba, who scale above Post-BoG Base form ( that absorbed the Universal power of SSG), would oneshot all of DBZ without too many problems.
So No, Buuhan is garbage and he's not impressive at all compared to DBS power levels.
2) BoG SSG Goku and BoG Beerus (who was using only 10% of his power) were casually going to destroy the Universe with their kicks and punches. Anyone who scales above BoG SSG Goku and BoG 10% Beerus is above that, and there is a literal infinity of characters from Super who scale above that.
3) Since we're clearly talking about Animeverse (since that feat is Anime only), where Goku absorbed the power of SSG in his lower forms, then Buuhan is truly not impressive at all. Even someone like Apprentice Present Zamasu or Cabba, who scale above Post-BoG Base form ( that absorbed the Universal power of SSG), would oneshot all of DBZ without too many problems.
So No, Buuhan is garbage and he's not impressive at all compared to DBS power levels.
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Re: Someone today tried to argue DBZ Buuhan and up are stronger than Beerus
You don't need to do complex power scaling at all. SS Vegetto was superior to Boo and it's stated Blue Vegetto is around Beerus' strength.
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Re: Someone today tried to argue DBZ Buuhan and up are stronger than Beerus
1. Filler feat
2. It wans't that impressive considering all it did was create lighitng and made the sky darker. A single punch in the face was still strong enough to stop it.
3. Beerus would beat Buuhan just by picking his nose.
2. It wans't that impressive considering all it did was create lighitng and made the sky darker. A single punch in the face was still strong enough to stop it.
3. Beerus would beat Buuhan just by picking his nose.
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Re: Someone today tried to argue DBZ Buuhan and up are stronger than Beerus
I know it's a filler feat, the argument was due to filler the DbZ anime and GT have characters that are Zeno level and up.l because Xeno is the only confirmed universe buster.
Re: Someone today tried to argue DBZ Buuhan and up are stronger than Beerus
Whoever you're arguing with is either grossly ill-informed, or just flat-out trolling.
In BoG, Goku himself confirmed that not even fusion would be enough to defeat Beerus(who was only using a micro-fraction of his power at the time.) IOW, Beerus(100%) >>>>>>>>>>>> Beerus(massively suppressed) > Vegetto >> Boohan.
As for anyone from Z or GT being Zen-Oh level, that is even more comical. No other character in the history of the lore has proven remotely capable of universe-busting with the sheer ease that Zen-Oh has demonstrated(the guy literally just has to close his hand, and *poof*, the universe is gone.) Moreover, Zen-Oh doesn't just destroy the universe, he erases/nullifies it from existence entirely -- something that, again, we've never seen from any other character, ever. There's a reason why even Destroyers shit their pants in his presence.
In BoG, Goku himself confirmed that not even fusion would be enough to defeat Beerus(who was only using a micro-fraction of his power at the time.) IOW, Beerus(100%) >>>>>>>>>>>> Beerus(massively suppressed) > Vegetto >> Boohan.
As for anyone from Z or GT being Zen-Oh level, that is even more comical. No other character in the history of the lore has proven remotely capable of universe-busting with the sheer ease that Zen-Oh has demonstrated(the guy literally just has to close his hand, and *poof*, the universe is gone.) Moreover, Zen-Oh doesn't just destroy the universe, he erases/nullifies it from existence entirely -- something that, again, we've never seen from any other character, ever. There's a reason why even Destroyers shit their pants in his presence.
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Re: Someone today tried to argue DBZ Buuhan and up are stronger than Beerus
Why exactly start a thread about some misinformed person on the internet posting a misinformed opinion on Boohan's strength? I don't mean to sound snarky or rude, but this would probably be better suited in the non-thread worthy discussion.
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Re: Someone today tried to argue DBZ Buuhan and up are stronger than Beerus
O_O My bad, I can't rememeber that at all, in which version(s) of BoG he said that?Galan007 wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:47 pm In BoG, Goku himself confirmed that not even fusion would be enough to defeat Beerus(who was only using a micro-fraction of his power at the time.) IOW, Beerus(100%) >>>>>>>>>>>> Beerus(massively suppressed) > Vegetto >> Boohan.
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Re: Someone today tried to argue DBZ Buuhan and up are stronger than Beerus
In both the original BoG film and the DBS retelling.Rafa Fast wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:46 pm O_O My bad, I can't rememeber that at all, in which version(s) of BoG he said that?
Re: Someone today tried to argue DBZ Buuhan and up are stronger than Beerus
Rewatched both 300 times, my memory is rotten, thanks.
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Re: Someone today tried to argue DBZ Buuhan and up are stronger than Beerus
That would imply Vegetto is stronger than Beerus, and that is OBVIOUSLY untrue, given that Beerus is kind of MEANT to be unbeatable by Goku and Vegeta (as well as their fusion) for the foreseeable future.
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Re: Someone today tried to argue DBZ Buuhan and up are stronger than Beerus
So now the argument is Super scales to Kai and the manga only not the orginal DBZ anime.