In the anime That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime a character called
I wonder if Dragon Ball has done something like that.
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I could be wrong but I don't think either Dragon Ball or Star Wars came up with idea of using chi as telekinesisKoitsukai wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:41 am I guess you could say Freeza's telekinesis is like the Force? which is not that different from regular telekinesis.
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Previous Toriyama work, Dr. Slump, also had lots of various cameos from both west and eastLoganForkHands73 wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:49 pm As well as everything already mentioned, everyone seems to forget Roshi's blatantly plagiarised flying steed Baby Gamera, who's literally just a miniaturised copy of the turtle kaiju of the same name owned by Daiei Film. It's no surprise Baby Gamera's appearances are very sparse.
Explicit, extremely blatant nods like that are "plagiarism" now?LoganForkHands73 wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:49 pm As well as everything already mentioned, everyone seems to forget Roshi's blatantly plagiarised flying steed Baby Gamera, who's literally just a miniaturised copy of the turtle kaiju of the same name owned by Daiei Film. It's no surprise Baby Gamera's appearances are very sparse.
Well no, it was a bit of a comic exaggeration on my part, but the topic is about elements in Dragon Ball taken from other media and Gamera falls into that category more explicitly than most. Considering how harsh Japanese film studios (producers of kaiju movies in particular) tend to react to any perceived misuse of their intellectual property, it was wise of Toriyama to only use Gamera as a one-off Family Guy style cameo rather than a recurring character. Funnily enough, the anime still occasionally shows scenes of Roshi being transported atop a rotating turtle shell but the animators never make it too obvious that it’s obviously Gamera.pixie_misa wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:17 amExplicit, extremely blatant nods like that are "plagiarism" now?LoganForkHands73 wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:49 pm As well as everything already mentioned, everyone seems to forget Roshi's blatantly plagiarised flying steed Baby Gamera, who's literally just a miniaturised copy of the turtle kaiju of the same name owned by Daiei Film. It's no surprise Baby Gamera's appearances are very sparse.
Sheesh
Apart from even the big stuff, there's COUNTLESS little tiny details from across Wuxia fiction and media that Dragon Ball liberally lifted directly from: I chronicled a ton of them in the thread. Here's a random one from the original thread that never seems to jump out at folks (even though it ought to):Zephyr wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:54 pmKunzait_83 made a pretty lengthy thread here 8 years ago (!?) that covers a lot of things Dragon Ball referenced.
Kunzait_83 wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:57 pmAnother of Goku's techniques directly lifted from the Wuxia writings of Jin Yong is the Shunkan Idou (Instantaneous Movement) which is ripped directly from the “Shifting Stance” from Demi-Gods and Semi-Devils. Everything from the “index and middle fingers to the temple” hand gesture to the specifics in how the technique works via “locking onto” a specific Ki source and being able to transport others along with you by touch is copied verbatim from Demi-Gods' Shifting Stance, which is among its more well known and notable supernatural martial arts techniques.
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Journey to the West, chapter 26 wrote:The strong man will meet someone stronger still:
Come to naught at last he surely will!
Zephyr wrote:And that's to say nothing of how pretty much impossible it is to capture what made the original run of the series so great. I'm in the generation of fans that started with Toonami, so I totally empathize with the feeling of having "missed the party", experiencing disappointment, and wanting to experience it myself. But I can't, that's how life is. Time is a bitch. The party is over. Kageyama, Kikuchi, and Maeda are off the sauce now; Yanami almost OD'd; Yamamoto got arrested; Toriyama's not going to light trash cans on fire and hang from the chandelier anymore. We can't get the band back together, and even if we could, everyone's either old, in poor health, or calmed way the fuck down. Best we're going to get, and are getting, is a party that's almost entirely devoid of the magic that made the original one so awesome that we even want more.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:It grinds my gears that people get "outraged" over any of this stuff. It's a fucking cartoon. If you are that determined to be angry about something, get off the internet and make a stand for something that actually matters.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
T: You only need to read that much of Fist of the North Star to understand it. I didn’t care for it that much.
M: Oh?! How can you say that?!
T: Nah, it’s alright because it’s just my personal preference. I don’t like it. But Fist of the North Star was so popular at the time, so I read it carefully and studied it, and that’s how the future of Dragon Ball evolved. I decided the policies.
M: You mean in terms of story arrangement?
T: Yes, I made the story simple by reducing the amount of characters.
M: So that’s it.
T: When I read Fist of the North Star I felt that it was a bit preachy. But I was struck by its dialogue, “You are already dead.” “I don’t qualify to live another day!!” “Because I love the same woman.” And, “I have no regrets in my life.” Children think that such lines sound cool, of course. It had a lot of appeal in that regard, and was incredible.
M: How did you plan to change the policy of Dragon Ball?
T: That’s when I decided to make Dragon Ball a work without substance.
M: Without substance?
T: That’s right, Matsuyama-kun, have you ever learned anything by reading Dragon Ball, that you can remember?
M: Well, of course, um…
T: No, there’s nothing you can learn by reading Dragon Ball. It’s not a lesson in life, it’s useless in our lives; it’s just a funny comic. And that’s fine!
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.