Aren't they worrying the original Japanese cast are not going to be with us forever?

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Aren't they worrying the original Japanese cast are not going to be with us forever?

Post by Ilona19 » Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:24 am

I think Dragon Ball Super series needs to continue ASAP because most of our beloved Japanese Seiyuu's are sadly old people now.. :(

Or they will be replaced with AI-powered voice of their own in the future? That's why Toei Animation is not in a hurry to continue the series because it doesn't matter anymore when?

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Re: Aren't they worrying the original Seiyuu's not going to be with us forever?

Post by DB1984 » Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:20 am

Do you expect a conservative country like Japan to utilize AI? I don't think so.

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Re: Aren't they worrying the original Seiyuu's not going to be with us forever?

Post by JulieYBM » Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:32 am

I mean...people die. Having different actors play roles is inevitable and a normal part of life. I really don't think a bunch of executives see maintaining a consistency across all media as important, because it's ultimately impossible in the face of the reality of life and death.
DB1984 wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:20 am Do you expect a conservative country like Japan to utilize AI? I don't think so.
You say this like an AI-recreation of Utsumi Kenji (the original Shen Long and ReaCoom) wasn't recently created for shilling shit.
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Post by TheGreatness25 » Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:15 pm

We've had Looney Tunes, Scooby Doo, etc. last way past the original (iconic) voice actors. Batman will continue past Kevin Conroy. It's a fantasy story that isn't attached to its voice actors. I know that we have attached Goku to Masako Nozawa, but she isn't Goku--she just brings Goku to life. One day, it's quite possible that Goku will survive her. And they'll find someone else. Amd at first, we'll all be sad because she "can't be replaced," but we'll get over it and continue on. That's just how it is.

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Post by JulieYBM » Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:23 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:15 pm We've had Looney Tunes, Scooby Doo, etc. last way past the original (iconic) voice actors. Batman will continue past Kevin Conroy. It's a fantasy story that isn't attached to its voice actors. I know that we have attached Goku to Masako Nozawa, but she isn't Goku--she just brings Goku to life. One day, it's quite possible that Goku will survive her. And they'll find someone else. Amd at first, we'll all be sad because she "can't be replaced," but we'll get over it and continue on. That's just how it is.
Hell, Batman has continued by Conroy. He's hardly voiced Batman for the past twenty years. Jason O'Mara voiced Bruce Wayne in, like, fifteen films! All while Conroy was still alive.
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Re: Aren't they worrying the original Seiyuu's not going to be with us forever?

Post by Ilona19 » Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:28 pm

I know it's "easy" to replace voice actors but the problem is with Japanese conservative culture.. I've heard in the past they simply stopped producing certain animes if it's iconic seiyuu's died, out of "respect". Hope this will not be the case with Dragon Ball if main voice actors pass away... the DB franchise worth too much for this to happen..

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Post by JulieYBM » Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:34 pm

Ilona19 wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:28 pm I know it's "easy" to replace voice actors but the problem is with Japanese conservative culture.. I've heard in the past they simply stopped producing certain animes if it's iconic seiyuu's died, out of "respect". Hope this will not be the case with Dragon Ball if main voice actors pass away...
Can you name any examples? Because we're still getting Dragon Ball, Kidou Senshi Gundam, Lupin III and plenty of other anime despite many main cast members passing away. In fact, more often than not, a franchise will get a completely separate cast for a new adaption of an anime.
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Re: Aren't they worrying the original Seiyuu's not going to be with us forever?

Post by Ilona19 » Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:51 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:34 pm
Ilona19 wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:28 pm I know it's "easy" to replace voice actors but the problem is with Japanese conservative culture.. I've heard in the past they simply stopped producing certain animes if it's iconic seiyuu's died, out of "respect". Hope this will not be the case with Dragon Ball if main voice actors pass away...
Can you name any examples? Because we're still getting Dragon Ball, Kidou Senshi Gundam, Lupin III and plenty of other anime despite many main cast members passing away. In fact, more often than not, a franchise will get a completely separate cast for a new adaption of an anime.
I've read something like this in this old thread. There is an example anime in the OP message: Dirty Pair franchise.
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Post by WittyUsername » Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:43 pm

I don’t think the situation with Masako Nozawa as Goku is comparable to Kevin Conroy as Batman. Batman has had countless interpretations throughout various mediums. Conroy wasn’t even the first actor to portray the character. With Goku, Masako Nozawa has been the only voice for the character in Japan. They haven’t had anyone else, except maybe for whoever dubbed Justin Chatwin in DBE.

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Post by Grimlock » Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:19 pm

WittyUsername wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:43 pmThey haven’t had anyone else, except maybe for whoever dubbed Justin Chatwin in DBE.
After you mentioned, I got curious so I went to do some research and... Holy hell! Dragon Ball Evolution Goku was voiced by Kappei Yamaguchi, the voice of Fu. :shock: That first Dragon Ball Heroes episode will hit a little bit differently knowing this. Also:

• Bulma is voiced by Aya Hirano, the voice of Dende.
• Yamcha is voiced by Hisao Egawa, the voice of many characters.

I actually never thought about it but I have to go and watch Dragon Ball Evolution in Japanese now. The experience will be... something else! By the way, the dub in my country kept the voice actors from the cartoon.

(Gahd, this is all the more reason for Dragon Ball Evolution to appear in-universe. Imagine Fu, Goku, Xeno Goku and Dragon Ball Evolution Goku all in the same place... That'd be amazing!).
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Post by DB1984 » Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:25 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:34 pm
Ilona19 wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:28 pm I know it's "easy" to replace voice actors but the problem is with Japanese conservative culture.. I've heard in the past they simply stopped producing certain animes if it's iconic seiyuu's died, out of "respect". Hope this will not be the case with Dragon Ball if main voice actors pass away...
Can you name any examples? Because we're still getting Dragon Ball, Kidou Senshi Gundam, Lupin III and plenty of other anime despite many main cast members passing away. In fact, more often than not, a franchise will get a completely separate cast for a new adaption of an anime.
When Takeshi Aono, who voiced Colonel Roy Campbell died, Hideo Kojima never featured the character in any future Metal Gear Solid games again, out of respect for Aono.

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Post by WittyUsername » Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:37 pm

Grimlock wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:19 pm
WittyUsername wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:43 pmThey haven’t had anyone else, except maybe for whoever dubbed Justin Chatwin in DBE.
After you mentioned, I got curious so I went to do some research and... Holy hell! Dragon Ball Evolution Goku was voiced by Kappei Yamaguchi, the voice of Fu. :shock: That first Dragon Ball Heroes episode will hit a little bit differently knowing this. Also:

• Bulma is voiced by Aya Hirano, the voice of Dende.
• Yamcha is voiced by Hisao Egawa, the voice of many characters.

I actually never thought about it but I have to go and watch Dragon Ball Evolution in Japanese now. The experience will be... something else! By the way, the dub in my country kept the voice actors from the cartoon.

(Gahd, this is all the more reason for Dragon Ball Evolution to appear in-universe. Imagine Fu, Goku, Xeno Goku and Dragon Ball Evolution Goku all in the same place... That'd be amazing!).
They would definitely have done something like that if Dragon Ball were an American franchise.

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Post by ATA » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:14 am

JulieYBM wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:34 pm
Ilona19 wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:28 pm I know it's "easy" to replace voice actors but the problem is with Japanese conservative culture.. I've heard in the past they simply stopped producing certain animes if it's iconic seiyuu's died, out of "respect". Hope this will not be the case with Dragon Ball if main voice actors pass away...
Can you name any examples? Because we're still getting Dragon Ball, Kidou Senshi Gundam, Lupin III and plenty of other anime despite many main cast members passing away. In fact, more often than not, a franchise will get a completely separate cast for a new adaption of an anime.
Kingdom Hearts did not provide voice lines for some characters if their voice actor died. This is more common for side/background characters than main characters however.
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Post by Jord » Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:02 am

If there's money to be made these characters will have a voice forever.

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Post by Grimlock » Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:40 am

WittyUsername wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:37 pmThey would definitely have done something like that if Dragon Ball were an American franchise.
Well, it's more common in the West, but they do it in the East too. Godzilla (1998) was acknowledged by Toho and even featured in a movie alongside other characters (only to die, but still).

It would be a waste not to put Dragon Ball Evolution characters to interact with their animated counterparts.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:21 am

The original voice actors will always be remember. Lupin The 3rd had a new voice actor after Yasuo Yamada pass away. I also think after Toriyama dies, Shueisha will still carry the series without him.
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Post by Ilona19 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:54 am

Hellspawn28 wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:21 am The original voice actors will always be remember. Lupin The 3rd had a new voice actor after Yasuo Yamada pass away. I also think after Toriyama dies, Shueisha will still carry the series without him.
Yeah it's very likely since Toyotaro is his said successor already.

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Grimlock wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:40 am
WittyUsername wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:37 pmThey would definitely have done something like that if Dragon Ball were an American franchise.
Well, it's more common in the West, but they do it in the East too. Godzilla (1998) was acknowledged by Toho and even featured in a movie alongside other characters (only to die, but still).

It would be a waste not to put Dragon Ball Evolution characters to interact with their animated counterparts.
I think a bigger waste would be dedicating a shred of production time to anything from that movie.
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Post by TheGreatness25 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 4:08 pm

Yeah, I don't know that this sudden interest is for DBE. That is by far the worst thing to bear a Dragon Ball logo (it goes without saying, but in my opinion).

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Post by WittyUsername » Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:07 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 4:08 pm Yeah, I don't know that this sudden interest is for DBE. That is by far the worst thing to bear a Dragon Ball logo (it goes without saying, but in my opinion).
To be fair, I don’t think it’s exactly a popular sentiment for DBE to get reevaluated. Most people seem to have just forgotten about it. It hasn’t really been looked at from a new lens like the Star Wars prequels or the Andrew Garfield Spider-Man movies.

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