Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

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Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:09 am

Dragon Ball is unique as far anime is concerned. The old Kikuchi Music for better or worse never had an iconic sole "Sad Piece of Music" that plays in most major moments like Naruto or Fullmetal Alchemist did, Kai had that Saint Seiya esque wailing woman music I dont know the name of. I wont just cover Kikuchi but the entire franchise. But sadly my viewing of post GT material is extremely sparce. Oh and any music from Dragon Ball is welcome, even Faulconer or any other composer, sub or dub.

I will try to name the most iconic sad pieces I remember.

-Most of the sad versions of Gohan's theme: You know the one, the one that plays during the most sad and heartbreaking moments in Gohan's Journey, especially the Dinosaur and Robot death episodes. Its so cute and gentle and its extremely unusual that it doesnt go too hard in the "CRY NOW DAMMIT" direction of Naruto's Sadness and Sorrow or Fullmetal Alchemist's Bratja but combined with the animation it hits you like 100 tons of bricks.

-Detekoi Tobikiri ZENKAI Power: This song isnt sad on its own but when paired with Gohan's gruellingly cruel journey it makes one cry.

-Bokutachi wa Tenshi Datta: One of the most beautiful songs in the franchise. Nuff said.

Mind Power Ki: This one is more cool and badass than sad, but boy does it hit hard with the hopelesness of the Future. This one is one of the best and saddest pieces of music in the franchise

Unmei no Hi, Tamashi vs Tamashi: This is amazing that its another badass song but this one deliverately avoids bombastic gestures but rather portrays someone who is driven by anger to fight for justice.

Most of the GT OST Mixes of Dan Dan Kokoro Hikareteku and Hitori Janai: The sad tone of GT is really enhanced by these pieces of music.

I am sorry if this is misplaced. But I checked out the music sections and its more about the technical side of music rather than discussing it as art and the emotion it evokes.

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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by nineko » Sat Jul 08, 2023 3:38 am

I'll have to go with Tapion's Theme, I'm surprised you didn't mention it, I thought it was the obvious choice when it comes to sad music.

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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:05 pm

Good catch! But this is the exact intent of the thread! To look for things I that havent been mentioned before. But still, major omission from me.

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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by ABED » Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:15 pm

Upa/Bora's theme especially if they got rid of that damn mouth harp.
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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by DB1984 » Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:16 pm

For its countless faults, the music for GT seemed to take on a more emotional approach.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ ... agonBallGT

Scroll down here for discussions on the music.

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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:13 pm

ABED wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:15 pm Upa/Bora's theme especially if they got rid of that damn mouth harp.
OMG HOW COULD I HAVE FORGOTTEN THIS ONE!? Major agreement! Sorry for the all caps but this one is just soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sad.

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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by MasenkoHA » Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:25 pm

In agreement with Abed on Upa and Bora's theme


https://youtu.be/L7tLLY9vMvA

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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by ABED » Sat Jul 08, 2023 3:11 pm

DB1984 wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:16 pm For its countless faults, the music for GT seemed to take on a more emotional approach.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ ... agonBallGT

Scroll down here for discussions on the music.
I don't have any particular example off the top of my head, but the music in GT says "melancholy" to me. It's like someone said to the composer "make it sound bittersweet because this is gonna end soon."
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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by TheGreatness25 » Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:34 pm

To represent the Bruce Faulconer side of things (this has nothing to do with whether the music should have existed in the first place), the track called "Episodic Trunks" is pretty sad, especially in the second half. Maybe it's just because that's the music they used in that moment between Goku and Vegeta after Goku killed Boo.

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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by DragonBallFoodie » Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:54 pm

I'm sure this track would count.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha88kkoPHfQ
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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sat Jul 08, 2023 7:43 pm

OMG it really does.

BTW minor request, you dont have to do it if you dont want to but please do explain what piece of music is behind the videos you guys post. Otherwise if the link doesnt work or it gets taken down no one will know the music you meant to show.

BTW The above piece is Goodbye Song Goku and I THINK it plays during Vegeta's death.

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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by Grimlock » Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:23 am

Bardock Falls, The Fall of Planet Vegeta, this BGM track and Hitori Janai. That Dragon Ball GT ending song always felt like a sad music to me. Might be because of the lyrics/adaptation the dub in my country did to it.

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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by sunsetshimmer » Sun Jul 09, 2023 5:46 pm

To not repeat what was mentioned already i will say this one is very sad, even though it's from FUNI dub.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmXgPEkfUps

Not sure how many times it was used. I know it played in scene where Gohan tells Chichi that Goku is dead after Cell Games and in retrospection of Old Kai fusing with a witch. It also appeared in Legacy of Goku 3 in scene where Gohan visits Videl after she was heavily beaten by Spopovich.
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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by GhostEmperorX » Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:27 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:34 pm To represent the Bruce Faulconer side of things
Honestly speaking, there was never that much in the way of material one would normally call "sad" in that score, especially outside of the tracks associated with Trunks like the one you mentioned.
That's probably a consequence of Funimation's direction though, like what we're presented with the most throughout.

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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by GhostEmperorX » Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:48 am

More to the point though, shouldn't this thread have been in the Music section? Also...
Grimlock wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:23 amMovie 3 M-1023
This track (the last rendition of the Tree of Might theme) is quite like a requiem. Nothing else like it in the soundtrack as far as I know.
DragonBallFoodie wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:54 pm M-1623
This is probably Spaghetti Western inspired (haven't seen any of those really, correct me if I'm wrong), and it fits the bill, although it's quite apparent that the track is scored to picture.

Some others I'd cite are from Movie 8:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5p4gsXHW1U (M-1527, also likely Western-inspired)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPH_t1dtwQs (M-1528)

And Movie 11:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2mZPMH8f58 (M-1822, the fact that it begins with and features Cello amplifies that a lot)

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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by MasenkoHA » Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:42 pm

DragonBallFoodie wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:54 pm I'm sure this track would count.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha88kkoPHfQ
What was always funny to me, was even though it got appropriated for sad goodbye music in the Boo saga (its used for both Vegeta getting ready to sacrifice himself and Goku saying goodbye after his 24 hours are up) its original use was for Gohan turning Super Saiyan 2 in the Bojack movie, where I assume it was meant to invoke heroism.

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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by Majin Buu » Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:27 pm

The track from Movie 7 that plays when Goku is getting beaten up by Super 13. It gets reused when Piccolo is telling Vegeta what his fate will be before Vegeta sacrifices himself against Buu. It evokes both sadness and despair.

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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by GhostEmperorX » Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:10 pm

Majin Buu wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:27 pm The track from Movie 7 that plays when Goku is getting beaten up by Super 13. It gets reused when Piccolo is telling Vegeta what his fate will be before Vegeta sacrifices himself against Buu. It evokes both sadness and despair.
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MasenkoHA wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:42 pm What was always funny to me, was even though it got appropriated for sad goodbye music in the Boo saga (its used for both Vegeta getting ready to sacrifice himself and Goku saying goodbye after his 24 hours are up) its original use was for Gohan turning Super Saiyan 2 in the Bojack movie, where I assume it was meant to invoke heroism.
Actually that was when he was explaining why he allowed himself to be taken over, it was a different one (M-1615) right before the sacrifice.
I wonder if I'm misremembering something though, but tbh that's one of those tracks that isn't meant to be used too often.

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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by Majin Buu » Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:27 pm

GhostEmperorX wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:10 pm Actually that was when he was explaining why he allowed himself to be taken over, it was a different one (M-1615) right before the sacrifice.
I wonder if I'm misremembering something though, but tbh that's one of those tracks that isn't meant to be used too often.
It plays again when Vegeta is giving Trunks his goodbye hug. I remember that well because it abruptly cuts off when Vegeta chops Trunks in the neck.
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Re: Saddest Pieces of Music in Dragon Ball.

Post by coola » Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:39 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gggOXFk0BKc DBZ Movie 1, but i first heard it in Saiyan Saga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSTKcmrXsHU DB Movie 3, Piccolo sacrifice...
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