Super Michael's Goten & Trunks Appreciation Thread.

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Super Michael's Goten & Trunks Appreciation Thread.

Post by Grimlock » Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:00 pm

Goten and Trunks are really awesome characters. They were introduced as these new/next generation super strong boys with cool personalities and a very good executed friendly rivalry. By the time they appeared, they were the strongest kids there were. No one could match their power and we see that that was true during the 25th tournament, where they easily dispatched all other kids and teenagers.

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Goten has an awesome design, even though it's a copy of Goku, the fact that he wears long sleeves makes him look stylish (and it's even more cool-looking in the manga, where the long sleeves are black instead). Trunks also sports a nice visual, it's simple but effective. And he also has purple/lilac hair, which is what all Trunkses should have, it's just too bad that when he finally grew up to a teenager, he "dyed" his hair blue, but there's still "end of Z", where his hair is still purple/lilac, so there's still hope! Speaking of teenager, both Goten and Trunks designs at that period from the movie Dragon Ball Super Super Hero is marvelous. Goten finally changed his hairdo so that he becomes more unique. Trunks clothes is also very pleasing to see. Toriyama was really on board on creating something different, yet cool for Goten and Trunks, which is telling considering how questionable Toriyama is when it comes to designs of the characters for the series.
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Their interaction with one another is also a very strong point of their relationship. It is not a copy of Goku and Vegeta's relationship, you can easily tell Goten and Trunks are very, very good friends, a friendship that transcends even time and space, as we see Xeno Goten and Xeno Trunks doing pretty well together! It's always a pleasure to see them together and doing things together and fighting together. Their chemistry on-screen is only rivaled by their great charisma they have together (or even separately, to be honest). Trunks' strong willed and Goten's naivety clash really well too, moreso when they were kids.

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I do believe that, besides Uub and Pan, Goten and Trunks are the best candidates to take on the main role going forward. Despite the severe lack of screentime they got in recent years, I think there's still time to develop them more. It is kind of sad that the only place they manage to get something worthwhile is in video games, especially Dragon Ball Heroes. In fact, Dragon Ball Heroes Ultimate Mission X for Nintendo 3DS, a Japanese game that unfortunately didn't receive a localization, is still the best place for those wanting to see Goten in action without being overshadowed by Trunks. Hopefully all that changes in a near future. I want them to shine in the games, yes, but I also want them to shine in the series as well. Movie 11, despite being one of the works that represent the worst of this franchise, is also a good movie for Goten and Trunks and their fans. A truly testament that they can work in front lead. Also, Dimps please give Xeno Goten the Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan 3 transformations already. Ultimate is not enough.


So what about you? What do you think of Goten and Trunks? What are your wishes for these two characters? Please share your thoughts with us! :)

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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:22 pm

I hope they hold hands and kiss in the near future. Their dynamic really shined in the latest arc of the Dragon Ball Super comic. I want to continue to see Goten play the straight (lol) man to Trunks' shenanigans even more.
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Post by MasenkoHA » Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:45 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:22 pm I hope they hold hands and kiss in the near future. Their dynamic really shined in the latest arc of the Dragon Ball Super comic. I want to continue to see Goten play the straight (lol) man to Trunks' shenanigans even more.
The very special Dragon Ball episode where Chi Chi gets over her socially conservative views on traditional marriage when she realizes her youngest son will be marrying into the richest family on earth

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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:52 pm

MasenkoHA wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:45 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:22 pm I hope they hold hands and kiss in the near future. Their dynamic really shined in the latest arc of the Dragon Ball Super comic. I want to continue to see Goten play the straight (lol) man to Trunks' shenanigans even more.
The very special Dragon Ball episode where Chi Chi gets over her socially conservative views on traditional marriage when she realizes her youngest son will be marrying into the richest family on earth
No, no, you see, Chi-Chi will only accept it if one of them is a girl.

Luckily, Chi-Chi's always wanted a daughter...
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Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:13 pm

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Post by Grimlock » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:16 pm

I, for one, would like to separate them for a change. You really don't need to pair them up all the time. Let Goten be Goten on his own, let Trunks be Trunks on his own for a little while. Some sense of individuality is great too, and these characters desperately need it.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:45 pm

Grimlock wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:16 pm I, for one, would like to separate them for a change. You really don't need to pair them up all the time. Let Goten be Goten on his own, let Trunks be Trunks on his own for a little while. Some sense of individuality is great too, and these characters desperately need it.
That's the one thing I'll give GT. They gave them separate lives and interests while still keeping them friends.
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Post by super michael » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:14 am

This is a Impressive topic that shows Goten and Trunks great quality. I like the image used for Gotenks.

Uub, Pan, Goten and Trunks taking the main role sounds good. Bra can be the mechanic.
Grimlock wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:16 pm I, for one, would like to separate them for a change. You really don't need to pair them up all the time. Let Goten be Goten on his own, let Trunks be Trunks on his own for a little while. Some sense of individuality is great too, and these characters desperately need it.
That is a good idea. They can develop into their own characters and they can develop their own skills, which would benefit if they ever need to fuse.



Looks like Mai and Trunks might be a thing. As for Goten who he ends up with, that is a huge unknown.

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Post by nineko » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:46 am

super michael wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:14 amAs for Goten who he ends up with, that is a huge unknown.
In before Goten × Bra 😁

That would (literally) give birth to a new kind of half Saiyan / half Saiyan hybrid, not to mention that it would make Vegeta's head explode since his royal bloodline would interweave with the bloodline of a low class warrior, who says that Dragon Ball can't take inspiration from Romeo and Juliet?

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Post by super michael » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:32 am

nineko wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:46 am
super michael wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:14 amAs for Goten who he ends up with, that is a huge unknown.
In before Goten × Bra 😁

That would (literally) give birth to a new kind of half Saiyan / half Saiyan hybrid, not to mention that it would make Vegeta's head explode since his royal bloodline would interweave with the bloodline of a low class warrior, who says that Dragon Ball can't take inspiration from Romeo and Juliet?
That sounds like a good idea, I like it. The only thing is Goten and Bra age is too big, Goten is a teenager when Bra is born.

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Post by nineko » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:28 am

At the cost of repeating myself...
nineko wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 3:16 amLock them in the room of spirit and time for a week. Done.
(the quote above refers to both Bra and Pan, but it still applies)

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Post by super michael » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:47 am

nineko wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:28 am At the cost of repeating myself...
nineko wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 3:16 amLock them in the room of spirit and time for a week. Done.
(the quote above refers to both Bra and Pan, but it still applies)
That is a perfect solution. Training and maybe studying in the ROSAT. Then Bra would be the same age like Goten.

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Post by Koitsukai » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:47 pm

I always liked Goten more than Trunks. Trunks was always the brat and Goten was the gullible kid with a golden heart. But in GT I stopped disliking Trunks, it was a good call to separate and portray them as individuals.
Goten ended up being the player instead of Trunks, which is refreshing considering the japanese trope of the white, blue-eyed teen with the DiCaprio haircut being the hearthrob, and Trunks turned out to be the guy getting his hands dirty with the Son family.

I think it's more intimate to fuse with someone than to sleep with them. I'd say Goten and Trunks share a bond, or shared one, that no sexual intercouse could match.


Gotenks? I'm lukewarm about him. Too immature to be such a jobber. I'd like to see him as an adult, though. The fusees personalities have changed so much that I think I'd love a DBS Gotenks.

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Post by dragonballhero » Fri Jul 28, 2023 3:19 pm

Personally, I've always been more partial to Goten myself, and I've truly felt bad about how the poor guy seems to be one of the biggest afterthoughts this series has to offer (at least, among most of the Saiyan characters).

It's even why I give GT the credit that I give it. Say what you will about that series, but it actually DID stuff with him.

- Not have him joined at the hip with Trunks, Gohan, or Goku.
- Took the concept of him being "What if Goku lived his life around civilization since his infant years", and did stuff with it, like have him be far more of a socialite than his dad (and to some extent, his brother) ever was.

Come to think of it, something I honestly kind of wish Toyotaro had done for the Saiyaman X-1 and X-2 mini-arc was depict Goten and Trunks as having the opposite luck with women.

That is to say, while you would think that Trunks, for all of his good looks and money, would have little issue scoring dates, it would turn out that he's got the worst luck with doing so. Meanwhile, Goten would have all kinds of girls swooning over him and he himself wouldn't even be trying to pick up any dates to begin with. He'd just be such a sweet guy and THAT'D be what women find so attractive about him.

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