DragonBall Z Abridged

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Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Episode 46
https://youtu.be/4HuJaRVGURI

THE TAKA CUT | DBZA Commentary Ep. 31-33
https://youtu.be/cUIE848GWls

Yu Yu Hakusho Abridged Episode 6 Commentary - YYHA Lanipator
https://youtu.be/W60Mk1f8h10

DBZA Creator Commentary: Best of Season 1
https://youtu.be/85VQS8JewOY

DBZA Creator Commentary: Best of Season 2 (PART 1)
https://youtu.be/Ydr-zVZ4GKY

Is it weird that I genuinely don't remember most of their running gags with Dr. Briefs?

Also, gonna. post all the links once a week all at once rather than in different posts. Makes more sense to me.

[FoolsGil]

Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | History of Trunks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKLJnog ... rStarBento

My favorite anything of DBZA ever.

- When the trailer first premiered I was spooked. Still wonder what if they played this completely straight with no jokes, how good it would have been.
- Before DBZA, I watched Megami33's Sailor Moon Abridged, and to see her having such a meaty role in this, and now making waves in professional work, great for her.
- If you ask me, Future Bulma / Future Gohan got hella popular thanks to this special.
- The Super Saiyan scene, fucking amazing
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Spoiler:

Should have gone with the clone ending

[Scsigs]

Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | History of Trunks
https://youtu.be/kKLJnogi6aI

I remember back when this special came out, on here a few people said to me that they didn't like them keeping the Gohan death scene straight in tone. I stand by that being the best call they made there.
Also, the way they made Gohan now makes more sense to me, since they admit to knowing that Gohan's being a piece of shit to his dad. I still don't feel that character arc came to a conclusion, but at least it makes me feel better about it.

THE TAKA CUT | DBZA Commentary Ep. 34-36
https://youtu.be/8e0IDQbBId8

Yu Yu Hakusho Abridged Episode 8 Commentary - YYHA Lanipator
https://youtu.be/mGgHg_e65N4
(Last 1 was 7, not 6. Typo.)

DBZA Creator Commentary: Best of Season 2 (PART 2)
https://youtu.be/bRiXsnjHNmo

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Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Episode 47
https://youtu.be/WJO7z-xL9J0

THE TAKA CUT | DBZA Commentary Ep. 37-39
https://youtu.be/Cfr8NBZVokk

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

Now the Trunks special is one I was looking forward to, both the original release and the commentary. As much as I appreciate it for being a sincere drama, with very few Toriyama idiosyncrasies clawing at it, just to see such story officially exist, I confess I have not watched it much. I remember it as the thing that made 17 and 18 scary (as it should) more than anything. We'll argue about making their comedy dramatic when the time comes, but this was a time to enhance the drama with missing comedy, and did they sail that strait nicely. Gohan's imaginary Piccolo, Chi-chi's teetering on the edge, Bulma putting on the brave face as the last person in the Goku menagerie trying to work forward just hurts me in ways the straighter drama of the original special could not. It is not surprise at all that all three of them had jokes they had to rein in. Best joke for me remains 18 sliding in front of 17's blast and getting hit at the last second- that was an odd shot in the original Special and a simple slapstick gag to freshen the pallet after everything else.

Episode 46, straight on hit. 16's sudden beatdown was already an excellent swerve and his new angle with the twins and bringing the cyborg joke full circle just made it better.

Is it weird that I genuinely don't remember most of their running gags with Dr. Briefs?

They have probably noticed by now that a lot of people did not pick up on them the first time through and wanted to point them out. Youtube reactions always providing new data for that and all. I certainly caught "Most of those (eggs) weren't meant to be eaten that way!" the first time!

[Scsigs]

Is it weird that I genuinely don't remember most of their running gags with Dr. Briefs?

They have probably noticed by now that a lot of people did not pick up on them the first time through and wanted to point them out. Youtube reactions always providing new data for that and all. I certainly caught "Most of those (eggs) weren't meant to be eaten that way!" the first time!

I meant that I just genuinely don't remember anything about it. I remember some of the lines, but didn't know how deep it went until rewatching this series through these creator commentary episodes.

[Scsigs]

Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Episode 48
https://youtu.be/-VUD78J8wOg

THE TAKA CUT | DBZA Commentary Ep. 40-42
https://youtu.be/9aTMaU6SrRI
Finally caught up with the VODs of Taka's creator commentary streams.

Yu Yu Hakusho Abridged Commentary | Episode 9
https://youtu.be/V2i4Pc0kdN0

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Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Episode 49
https://youtu.be/C1Jv28kJ8IM

The first one co-written by Kirran.

[johnboy1]

So, bad news: TFS has a documented history of covering up the predatory behavior of their associates.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Oa8 ... QI/preview

[Scsigs]

So, bad news: TFS has a documented history of covering up the predatory behavior of their associates.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Oa8 ... QI/preview

Just read through this & here are my thoughts...

1. Most of the allegations are aimed at Little Kuriboh, not TFS. The fact that LK still pals around with known abusers behind the scenes is just nuts to me. It's very hypocritical when he preaches about a better world & shit, like the Google Doc said.

2. The allegations leveled at TFS are mainly aimed at Kaiser/Scott, with only the others mentioned later on as having known about (I think?) Vic Mignogna in regards to the shit people knew from the convention circuit gossip & whatnot. I think that saying Kaiser's a "serial name searcher & incriminating tweet deleter" is a bit harsh when the proof is only in an old tweet linked on the TFS subreddit that he deleted, though I'd like to know if there are any other instances of him doing this. And the Vic shit, we don't know the extent that they had heard about those things over the years. They could've just thought they were rumors & didn't wanna start what they'd consider unnecessary beef with Vic while they were trying to grow their brand with the con appearances. It's not like TFS had Vic in any of their projects anyways (legally, they really couldn't anyways), so unless they tell us their real thoughts on Vic & what they thought from the shit they heard of or maybe saw over the years, I think it's unfair to say they were complacent in not saying anything. But, this is me saying that when I don't have all of the context in that regard. From my POV, that's like saying other people that were there at these cons that heard about these things are guilty of not outing him if all they heard were just rumors they didn't see proof of. IMO, it's more on the people organizing the cons for not taking the allegations seriously enough to do investigations & not invite Vic back.

3. The allegations against Chris Niosi & Xthedarkone are disgusting. At least I have an answer as to why Yugioh GX Abridged isn't around any longer now, though, & why Shady ultimately left it. X is disgusting to get an underage girl drunk in order to take advantage of her & LK is disgusting to lie about the ages when he knows the truth. And Niosi's an asshole who can go fuck off for all I care. Get help, dude.

4. If TFS legitimately knew any of this shit, had proof given to them or a lot of people telling them about these things, or testimonies from people, this is a bad look. I imagine that they had people telling them about Niosi's abusive tendencies for years, which is, I think, the biggest point against them if they didn't take appropriate steps to investigate the situation. He worked for them for years as an actor, editor, & whatever else.

5. I'll say, this kinda puts Taka's kind words towards Doug Walker in some of his creator commentaries into a worse context. Doug's kind of a shitty person regardless of how much he's really guilty of in regards to the Change the Channel controversy. Regardless of how his sense of humor is, Doug's just awful & people really shouldn't defend him or anything like that. Same to Lani back in 2018 downplaying the Change the Channel shit as "a bad year for the Walkers" in a livestream.

Edit: LK responded...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uvr ... j9_IU/edit

[coola]

Found this on CinemassacreTruth Reddit group too, Screenwave Media are pretty shady group too (Not paying their worker, Justin helping delete evidence for his pedophile friend etc.) https://i.postimg.cc/tR1Y4wkV/RDT-20230 ... 476444.png

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So, to me, it seems like a lot of things Tara Welker accused LK of were speculation & conjecture based on observations of his Twitter & random one-off comments that haven't been archived, or the person hasn't provided evidence of that were made over a decade ago. On top of that, LK's been posting his own counter evidence to back up his side of things.
LK's Google Doc, updated: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uvr ... j9_IU/edit
Tweet thread: https://twitter.com/yugiohtas/status/16 ... 4677662720
Email LK's wife apparently sent someone a while ago: https://twitter.com/yugiohtas/status/16 ... 6580305920

It should be noted that most of the things Tara accused LK of were things based on things that we have no real knowledge of & she doesn't give him any benefit of the doubt on some things.

As for TFS, I'm maintaining that unless evidence can be provided that proves otherwise, Chris Niosi probably told them the abuse claims were bunk & they believed him. As for them trying to silence people talking about them or ghosting people trying to ask them about them, I need to see chat logs confirming that. Making a serious claim like them defending Niosi fully knowing or believing him to be an abusive person is something you need to back up if it's not readily believable. Because I fully believe them defending him & not wanting to believe him an abuser being the reasons they may have done that if they did because he was their friend, on top of him being someone they regularly contracted for various work over the years.

[Scsigs]

Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Episode 50
https://youtu.be/8Fq8v8tyH5Q

[jjgp1112]

And now she's issued an apology:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h8k ... BcR7c/edit

[Lance Freeman]

What a weird couple of days it's been on this front, huh? Guess the one thing I've learned is that the shadow of Fireball20XL is long and vast...

[johnboy1]

...Ms. Welker, you have (NEEDLESSLY) given more ammunition to the "Vic stans" and those like them. I hope you're pleased with yourself.

Stuff like this just makes it harder for victims to be believed and easier for scum to say "look at how easy these people lie".

[Vegard Aune]

One thing I noticed in that initial callout was the very brief mention of 1Kids... I was there when that came out and from what I can recall the group pretty much cut him off immediately. Granted, they didn't say anything about it, but they have not worked with the guy since the stuff about him being an abusive boss came out.

From everything I'm seeing, sure, the guys at TFS have made mistakes over the years, and sure, I do wish Taka wouldn't go "Dude Doug Walker is hilarious" in 2023 but... I'm not really seeing any solid evidence of anything outright cancel-worthy, so much as just the occasional instances of people being people and having blind spots.

[Scsigs]

And now she's issued an apology:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h8k ... BcR7c/edit

Yeah. The fact that she's speaking for people she doesn't personally know, or has talked to about these things in some weird attempt to cancel LK & TFS, even though most of the shit was about LK. The fact that she didn't talk to the people she should've before putting that initial Google Doc out & her evidence for certain things is circumstantial at best is really bad.

...Ms. Welker, you have (NEEDLESSLY) given more ammunition to the "Vic stans" and those like them. I hope you're pleased with yourself.

Stuff like this just makes it harder for victims to be believed and easier for scum to say "look at how easy these people lie".

Vic stans are annoying for sure. I honestly hope the victims there aren't affected much.

One thing I noticed in that initial callout was the very brief mention of 1Kids... I was there when that came out and from what I can recall the group pretty much cut him off immediately. Granted, they didn't say anything about it, but they have not worked with the guy since the stuff about him being an abusive boss came out.

From everything I'm seeing, sure, the guys at TFS have made mistakes over the years, and sure, I do wish Taka wouldn't go "Dude Doug Walker is hilarious" in 2023 but... I'm not really seeing any solid evidence of anything outright cancel-worthy, so much as just the occasional instances of people being people and having blind spots.

Yeah, definitely. I don't think anyone's worked with 1Kids since then. Hell, they employ Jesse Nowack, who was a victim of 1Kids' abuse, so that'd be incredibly 2-faced & insensitive of them. I think the same can be said of Niosi, where they haven't worked with HIM in a while either after his shit came to light. Whether it's for optics, or their own personal convictions, I don't think it's great that the latest things she had for tweets were from 4-5 years ago & only from Scott.

Yeah. The main reason I brought up Taka talking positively about Doug Walker is that Doug is a confirmed shitty person. I don't care about his sense of humor. He has been complicit in multiple cases of abuse from Mike Michaud, has been shitty to supposed friends & collaborators behind the scenes, is a bad critic, has run his main show into the ground & turned it into the internet's Family Guy, & other dumb or awful things. The fact that Taka can just forget that & say Doug has a great sense of humor as if it absolves him of all sin is just bad. But, I wouldn't cancel Taka over that either. That's for him to deal with.

[Scsigs]

Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Super Android 13
https://youtu.be/1m4cEBeMLYI

[Scsigs]

So, it appears Totally Not Mark's teamed up with TFS again to give us bits of what could've been with the Buu Saga. Is that Justin Briner back as Gohan?
https://www.reddit.com/r/TeamFourStar/c ... &context=3
https://twitter.com/teamfourstar/status ... 2584442921