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The main reason isn't is abilities is how little say, I assume, he has in the final product. Toriyama can say to his editors: I won't do X and it will stick. Toyotarõ probably just does what he's told.
If we remove the factor above my answer is likely still for many of the gripes already mentioned on this thread.
At the end of the day it's already difficult to know how much is his contribution or anyone's else(besides art), to make a proper judgement.
That's the main problem. It's like when something's good, it's due to Toriyama and when it's bad, it's Toyotaro. I would really like to seen an in dept overview of who thought of what.
The only thing we can judge Toyotaro on, is Dragon Ball Heroes: Victory Mission, and that one was received pretty positively.
Sometimes we get tidbits, like how Toriyama meticulously re-wrote a gag in the manga or which Hakaishin were designed by whom.
Still not enough to pain the picture; the biggest disruptor, the invisible suits input, is never fully clear.
Absolutely not. Through the manga serialization for several years his art has somewhat improved, but he still hasn't met most of the basic criteria of a professional manga artist. His paneling especially is still quite bad. Also, he seems to fail to understand what truly makes Toriyama's creations special, and keeps recreating a little bit sophisticated version of fifth graders' dream battle manga, which would be amusing to a certain extent as a fan creation, but obviously not as something official that's supposed to be supervised by multiple adults.
I'm not really interested in Toyotaro Dragon Ball. No shade to the guy. He's done some great things on DBS, but looking at his original Dragon Ball doujin and his contributions to the plot of DBS - I don't find what he writes to be compelling.
Maybe my thoughts will change in a few years. He has improved quite a bit IMO and its often difficult to tell where Toriyama's ideas stop and Toyotaro's ideas start
Big fan of the characters of Dragon Ball, all of them, especially formerly prominent sub-characters. -__-
I'm not a fan of the Dragon Ball Super manga's writing, so I would not. As stated already in this thread, Toei isn't that much better, but I still believe that the Super anime turned out better than the manga did.
Hell no. While his artwork has gained a level of consistency, his storytelling still leaves a lot to be desired. But I think he would benefit greatly from having a more active and involved editor to bounce ideas off of or re-work ongoing narrative concepts. I mean, Toyotarou's last original arc was a fucking stinker that I couldn't help but feel would have been better than the sum of its parts if he had an editor to properly support him.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.