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Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 3:03 pm
Thank goodness Adult Swim started going into a more kid friendly thing and now airs old CN shows alongside hardcore Adult Cartoons like Rick and Morty. Because otherwise this would have not fit that block and I think they will want to air it.
AND THANK GOD TELEFUTURO AND LATELE AIR DRAGON BALL IN PARAGUAY. I am so happy about this.
Wait, but isn't this going to be a web series or was that just a rumor?
Goten and Trunks turning into literal babies after everyone groaned about them not growing up for so long is fucking perfect. God bless Akira Toriyama.
Modern DB story arc scores:
Spoiler:
Battle of Gods (2013 film): 9/10
Resurrection 'F' (2015 film): 7/10
Universe 6 (manga arc): 8/10
Future Trunks (manga arc): 7/10
Universe Survival (manga arc): 8.5/10
Broly (2018 film): 9.5/10
Galactic Patrol Prisoner (manga arc): 6/10
Granolah the Survivor (manga arc): 3/10
Super Hero (2022 film and manga arc): 7.5/10
Dragon Ball Daima (2024 anime): 9/10
Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 3:03 pm
Thank goodness Adult Swim started going into a more kid friendly thing and now airs old CN shows alongside hardcore Adult Cartoons like Rick and Morty. Because otherwise this would have not fit that block and I think they will want to air it.
AND THANK GOD TELEFUTURO AND LATELE AIR DRAGON BALL IN PARAGUAY. I am so happy about this.
Wait, but isn't this going to be a web series or was that just a rumor?
Dont ask me, I know as much as you do which is not much at all. I think will DEFINITELY air on TV. They would NOT make this big a deal about something that aired online only.
Also it's interesting to think that this could take place before or right after BoG, and that Kibitoshin not being a thing anymore is just part of the magic
After all, if we really take to count that they turned back into kids because the villain is around Kaioshin's power level, I think it's fair to unfuse Kibitoshin, as he's supposed to be SSJ2 level AFAIK?
And agreed with Xeogran, make it at least be post-Super Hero, just take us out of this 10 years hell already
Grimlock wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 3:54 pm
PURPLE HAIR IS BACK! I don't think Japan has the word "consistency" in their vocabulary/dictionary.
and what if the purple hair is again because only teen-adult Trunks can have blue hair, man I won't know what to do anymore
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I simply wouldn't want to imagine my life without Dragon Ball, thank you Akira Toriyama (1955-2024), you are now immortal ~☆
The character designs honestly make me wonder if this is just right after the battle with Beers, hence why there's not a ton of transformations flying around. Either way, I think it'll be a lot of fun.
Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 3:03 pm
Thank goodness Adult Swim started going into a more kid friendly thing and now airs old CN shows alongside hardcore Adult Cartoons like Rick and Morty. Because otherwise this would have not fit that block and I think they will want to air it.
AND THANK GOD TELEFUTURO AND LATELE AIR DRAGON BALL IN PARAGUAY. I am so happy about this.
Wait, but isn't this going to be a web series or was that just a rumor?
Dont ask me, I know as much as you do which is not much at all. I think will DEFINITELY air on TV. They would NOT make this big a deal about something that aired online only.
Sailor Moon Crystal (for the initial 26 episodes) and Digimon Tri were online only and they got a pretty big push by Toei.
Even if it aired on Japanese television it might still go straight to Crunchyroll for release outside of Japan or vice versa
JulieYBM wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:03 pm
The character designs honestly make me wonder if this is just right after the battle with Beers, hence why there's not a ton of transformations flying around. Either way, I think it'll be a lot of fun.
Honestly, I think that'd kill most of my interest. The new anime is supposed to make Super move forward, not back...
Speaking of Super not progressing, I really wish we knew why they did this instead of adapting Moro or even the Broly movie. There was 70 minutes worth of cut content I would have loved to seen animated.
Wait, but isn't this going to be a web series or was that just a rumor?
Dont ask me, I know as much as you do which is not much at all. I think will DEFINITELY air on TV. They would NOT make this big a deal about something that aired online only.
Sailor Moon Crystal (for the initial 26 episodes) and Digimon Tri were online only and they got a pretty big push by Toei.
Even if it aired on Japanese television it might still go straight to Crunchyroll for release outside of Japan or vice versa
Digimon Tri was on Movie Theaters in Japan (My argument being that this WILL air on TV in Japan, and if that happens it will also happen elsewhere) and you got me good with Crystal... but I remember what a horrible experience that was for everyone involved including Toei so I doubt they will try that again.
However I might be wrong and I admit that but otherwise stick to my guns in theorizing what will happen.
Wait, but isn't this going to be a web series or was that just a rumor?
Dont ask me, I know as much as you do which is not much at all. I think will DEFINITELY air on TV. They would NOT make this big a deal about something that aired online only.
Sailor Moon Crystal (for the initial 26 episodes) and Digimon Tri were online only and they got a pretty big push by Toei.
Even if it aired on Japanese television it might still go straight to Crunchyroll for release outside of Japan or vice versa
Or they could do what they are currently doing with One Piece, broadcast it on TV in Japan and simulcast it on Crunchyroll in the rest of the world. And have the dubs air on TV first.
This is a weird choice indeed, but eh, by reading Jump I noticed that Japanese people and I have completely different tastes sometimes [e.g. they cancel mangas I like (such as super smartphone or time paradox ghostwriter) while they keep other mangas I don't get the point of (such as the ichinose family's deadly sins, seriously, wtf is that)], so I don't really know what to think at this point, they're literally unpredictable in their choices.
If this is a chibi-fying spell instead of an age spell, I think it's safe to say this takes place before Super Hero.
Goten & Trunks in Super Hero are the same size as other characters, so if they were to shrink then Goten would be about the same size as Chibi Goku.
Goten & Trunks must've been not as tall so that's why they look like babies, though that doesn't explain their getup. I doubt they were dressed up like babies
The only way to build up on this, in my honest opinion, is for them to take things into the Demon Realm; I'm not saying that should be the very first place that they visit, but this mysterious new world? Surely, there should be places that eventually lead to the Demon Realm.
Magic is a heavy concept in the Demon Realm according to Toriyama (correct me if I'm mistaken), so this is the only conclusion that I can come to. Perhaps we see something even greater than that of Dabura. We have no idea how time flows in the Demon Realm, so by now there must be a new Demon Lord running amok from within that has long surpassed the likes of Dabura's powers and potentially even Babidi's magic.
Only time will tell, but it's about damn time we get to explore the Demon Realm.
Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:16 pm
Digimon Tri was on Movie Theaters in Japan (My argument being that this WILL air on TV in Japan, and if that happens it will also happen elsewhere) and you got me good with Crystal... but I remember what a horrible experience that was for everyone involved including Toei so I doubt they will try that again.
However I might be wrong and I admit that but otherwise stick to my guns in theorizing what will happen.
Toei tried ONAs like Sailor Moon Crystal with Saint Seiya Soul of Gold. Both look pretty bad.
However, Sailor Moon Crystal wasn't really a big thing for Toei. I'm pretty sure Crystal S1/S2 were ONAs, because it was cheaper.
Regarding Dragon Ball Daima, it seems they have invested on this anime. So, I'm pretty sure it will be a TV show.
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I do have to wonder what's going to happen to the Dragon Ball Super manga. Does it just continue as its own separate entity? Or does Toyotaro get to do one more major arc before wrapping up the manga and adapting Daima?
I mean, if the reports are true and that the show has been in production for more than two years (going into three years now) and at least 12 episodes have already been prepared and staff is getting even more time to work on the show, I think this show may be around for the long haul and will outright replace Super as the new long-running project.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.