In my fan experiences outside of this forum, strength discussions have always been the reason canon mattered. When you're bickering about whether or not Vegeta had reached Super Saiyan 2 before the Majin charm, what is and isn't in the source material gets hyper-scrutinized because someone just has to be right.JulieYBM wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:09 pm I'm kind of repeating myself here, but I really don't see the point in placing some kind of 'canon' on a pedastool, when it completely ignores whether a work of art is good. I think it's important that we keep that in mind, because it isn't some nebulous idea of 'canon' that is the connective tissue from the humanity of the creative staff to the humanity of the person experiencing that art. What does that is everthing else: the story, the characters, the visuals, the themes, etc.
Honestly, the canon talk just reminds me of the obsession with battle powers as a form of distilling art into math, rather than capturing the humanity of those involved with it.
Art is about feeling, not being right.
Let me answer that question with my approach with that franchise.Grimlock wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:34 am In this particular, very specific case, while people are entitled to ignore whatever that doesn't come from the original author/creator, I am entitled to have an opinion on that approach (oh, and I'm not calling people "stupid", I'm calling the way they prefer to treat this matter "stupid". You may want to rephrase that). Dragon Ball is a beautiful franchise, so why would someone simply want to ignore everything else is beyond me. And, using your previously mentioned Star Wars as another example, while I don't know about it, I'm willing to bet there are good non-George Lucas works that those people who elect to ignore them are missing, all because of some kind of ridiculous "prejudice" or whatever it is.
I've only ever cared about the main movies, I've never been interested in the expanded universe. Not out of any "prejudice" against anything not made by Lucas, but because I just don't have the energy to follow all of that other stuff. It's just too daunting. Fact is, some people just want to stick with the source material and simply aren't interested in exploring anything beyond that, be it because they don't have the time or energy, lack the desire to do, etc. Fans aren't obligated to seek out every single work a franchise puts out.
With Dragon Ball it's different, and I think it's simply because I'm more into Dragon Ball than Star Wars so I'm more willing to go outside of the source material.
You see something similar with One Piece, where it's massive length is a barrier to entry for many due to the time commitment in spite of the praise it gets.