SSJ2bardock wrote:
You're clearly being biased here though, you say the dub is poorly scripted and has terrible music, but that is an opinoin and not a fact common to all dragonball fans. Believe it or not some people may actually like the "poor scripts" and "terrible music". I can understand them being frustrated that a show they had been watching previously was changed, but in my opinoin you shouldn't hate something only because it's different from what your familiar with.
You're speaking in hindsight, my friend. Let's go back to when the dub first came out.
First off, anime being butchered on TV was nothing new. The market is very different today to what it was 12 years ago.
Keep in mind, I started with the dub (have seen all of it actually). I got into the Japanese version during the hiatus after Saban pulled out.
Maybe you don't know this, but entire episodes were missing. The script was dumbed down. Gohan's age was altered because they thought he was too young. Death was downplayed, and poorly at that (like when Nappa blew up a city that was clearly inhabited, then insinuated that everyone had gotten away- they regularly insulted our intelligence). Nappa and Reacoome were portrayed as retards (basically big guy stereotypes, when they aren't that cut and dry in the original). Random stuff like Bardock being a scientist and Vegeta having killed Grandpa Gohan was added to the script for no fucking reason what so ever.
How is it biased to point out that people who had been watching the show in its original format would have nothing to gain from this adaptation other than cheap amusement?
And for the record, I've been in this fandom for a long time and I have never met a legit fan of the Shuki Levy score. It wasn't exactly John Williams stuff. Meaning it was basically just background noise. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't meant to be compelling either.
Now let's jump to the in-house dub. The voices were basically poor imitations of the old cast. I'm not bashing any current preference for the dub or FUNi's group of VA's. Back then, everyone was fairly under experienced. The edits were much tamer now, but the script writing wasn't much different, and Faulconer's score was in the same line as the Levy score. He just had a few pieces that actually stood out (some annoyingly so and some in a good way). The story lacked consistency, especially in flashbacks (I'm especially looking at any flashback from the Cell Saga). Basically, until the Buu Saga (which is basically the ass end of the series), the whole production felt like every other shitty dub from the 90's (and were there plenty).
So it's kind of short sighted to say that people dislike the dub just because it's different.
To put it another way- I assume you prefer the dub. How would you feel if, say, 4Kids were to get their hands on it, and suddenly you had edits out the ass (ranging from general content to whole episodes to pieces of clothing to expressions on faces), all of the music you were familiar with replaced, and the script kiddified and dumbed down. Would you honestly say "well, thats just their version?" Or would you say "what the hell are they smoking?"
To show my appreciation, I'll only beat them half to death.