"Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement, Pre-, & Post-Release Discussion Thread

[Kaboom]

Oh look, yet another parade of obvious inclusions from Z and color-swap garbage from Super, with of course "worst series' most overrated villain" coming along for the ride too. Only showing Gogeta's DBS-colors outfit and not his classic ZM12 version isn't a good sign either.

And of course, this big showcase of Fusion characters is distinctly missing the only one that could actually generate a tiny iota of interest in me to play this game. This would have been a prime opportunity to introduce GT versions of Goku and Vegeta, then show them both going SS4 and merging into best-Gogeta.

[Trouser]

Eh, I'm bored of kid versions of Trunks and Goten. Would it hurt them so much to include the EoZ versions (or GT) from the beginning? The absence of Gogeta (GT) is a disappointment too.

[goku the krump dancer]

The flash of Goku and Vegeta during the Final Kamehameha looks so laughable in comparison to FighterZ’s version but still everything looks just okay at the moment.

I tried to play the more recent anime brawlers to kinda get myself into the mindset of how this’ll play and I was bored within literal minutes. I don’t have high hopes for this game but I’m still gonna give it a shot.

[Koitsukai]

Awesome, more fusions, more DBS characters, this looks like fun. Couldn't care less about the missing fusions.

And did they just fix the hair bangs? they look gooood now.

[Jord]

The game just looks...bland to me. A lot of characters I don't care about and the animations still lack the dynamics of FighterZ. I also wonder how they'll balance unique character animation and moves with the large roster. This has always been my problem with the sparking games. They are fun dB simulators but lack the depth to play for a long time.

It doesn't look bad but it doesn't give me that wow-factor either. No GT characters thus far also doesn't help for me. I'm glad for the people that have waited for a sequel though.

[JulieYBM]

Kefla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Zamasu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm happy to see two of the most fun characters from Super in this game. I don't know if I'll be able to afford the pick the game up on release day, but I'd awesome to have more games to play these two in. I hope that there's some interesting story stuff for them to do, outside of just recreating the anime as-is.

Gotenks and Vegetto are so boring at this point. At least give us a Super Hero arc version of Goten and Trunks and Gotenks! >_<

[Kaboom]

Honestly, at this point I kinda hope that all the characters from the actually interesting and under-appreciated parts of the franchise like GT, the movies, pre-Raditz DB, and so forth are all just paid DLC packs. Because at least that way I could presumably buy and use them immediately, and not have to suffer through a DBS-heavy shitshow of a story mode to unlock any of them.

Shoot, if I'm lucky (I'm not though), then maybe a bunch of the DBS characters in the game would need to be manually unlocked via story missions instead, so by only playing up through the end of the Boo arc, my roster in the game could specifically exclude them.

[FPSSJ4_Goku]

Honestly, at this point I kinda hope that all the characters from the actually interesting and under-appreciated parts of the franchise like GT, the movies, pre-Raditz DB, and so forth are all just paid DLC packs. Because at least that way I could presumably buy and use them immediately, and not have to suffer through a DBS-heavy shitshow of a story mode to unlock any of them.

Shoot, if I'm lucky (I'm not though), then maybe a bunch of the DBS characters in the game would need to be manually unlocked via story missions instead, so by only playing up through the end of the Boo arc, my roster in the game could specifically exclude them.

Imagine how annoyed you'd be if it was like Budokai Tenkaichi 3, where 80% of the roster was unlocked from the get-go...

[Grimlock]

Oh look...

... Anyway, hopefully the PlayStation and the Silent Hill livestreams later today will reveal actual content and substance in the games. Been dying to get some exciting news.

[Cold Skin]

Good to see another DB game after Fighterz that knows where the priorities should be for the base game: the original main story and and Super.
Alternate reality GT and alternate reality Z movies are optional extra adventures, so it makes sense that they'd be treated as such in a game format, meaning DLC. So far, the devs seem to understand that, just like ArcSys did!

The actual continuity (and best content, meaning the original main story and Super) must be given priority and the weirdness that is the rest can wait for extra development, weeks, months and years after the initial release.

And with a roster than will span the largest range of main continuity ever in a regular game, the story mode doesn't need to do more than making us relive the events from the beginning of Z (though hopefully we could start at the beginning with Kid Goku, but we still haven't seen any proof that there is pre-Z content) to the Super Hero movie with a story mode like Budokai Tenkaichi 3. Include EoZ after Super Hero if you want.

They did pick the right, properly updated version of Gogeta, but again, the widow's peak is a bit too present and reminds us of the outdated movie 12 Gogeta that we don't need anymore (but might be there since his name is "Gogeta (Super)". But it's a small nitpick, it's still there with the right color for the clothes and the gorgeous Super Saiyan Blue form, of course!

[JulieYBM]

I shall actually die and rot away into the wind if there aren't cute Caulifal x Kale dialogue scenes. They're the best duo and fusion duo in the franchise, and if there isn't copious amounts of hand-holding I'm going to use my time machine to turn back time and alter history irrevocably. Also, please do more gay shit with Zamasu and Gokuu Black, Mr. John Bandai, thank you.

[Gt91]

So we dont' have ssj Caulifla/Kale but we have Kefla (base, ssj and ss2). That's good for me. We need more room for other characters

I hope to see Gogeta ss4 and adult Gotenks in the future.

[Kaboom]

The actual continuity (and best content, meaning the original main story and Super) must be given priority and the weirdness that is the rest can wait for extra development, weeks, months and years after the initial release.

This is the single most depressing and malignant sentence I've read on this forum in a very long time.

[danyq94]

Good to see another DB game after Fighterz that knows where the priorities should be for the base game: the original main story and and Super.
Alternate reality GT and alternate reality Z movies are optional extra adventures, so it makes sense that they'd be treated as such in a game format, meaning DLC. So far, the devs seem to understand that, just like ArcSys did!

The actual continuity (and best content, meaning the original main story and Super) must be given priority and the weirdness that is the rest can wait for extra development, weeks, months and years after the initial release.

And with a roster than will span the largest range of main continuity ever in a regular game, the story mode doesn't need to do more than making us relive the events from the beginning of Z (though hopefully we could start at the beginning with Kid Goku, but we still haven't seen any proof that there is pre-Z content) to the Super Hero movie with a story mode like Budokai Tenkaichi 3. Include EoZ after Super Hero if you want.

They did pick the right, properly updated version of Gogeta, but again, the widow's peak is a bit too present and reminds us of the outdated movie 12 Gogeta that we don't need anymore. But it's a small nitpick, it's still there with the right color for the clothes and the gorgeous Super Saiyan Blue form, of course!

It doesn't work that way, especially in Sparking.
Besides the fact that if we were to follow your logic we should have mainly ALL of the original DB (from Pilaf to Buu) and then Super, and not just Z and Super, Sparking has always prided itself on having a large roster but taking from all three animated series.
As of today we have 4 animated series, 5 at the end of the year, and so far the whole roster is based on two of them.
Sparking is the first video game series to heavily bring in the cast of GT and the Young Goku arc, this should not be underestimated or ignored.

[Michael_Takagawa]

Oh look, yet another parade of obvious inclusions from Z and color-swap garbage from Super, with of course "worst series' most overrated villain" coming along for the ride too.

And once again, Kaboom explodes in passionate disappointment over the simple inclusion of Z (a series staple) and Super characters. One thing I'm not disagreeing on is the inclusion of characters from original Dragon Ball and Grand Tour, but I don't how the concept of DBS characters being included in the roster, a first for a BT game, hampers your personal enjoyment that badly. As flawed as the series is, it doesn't mean it's 100% bad.

Plus, you seem to underestimate Zamasu's popularity by a lot. Who doesn't love a bombastic, energy blade-wielding God with a penchant for speech craft voiced by James Marsters?

[Kaboom]

It doesn't work that way, especially in Sparking.

Seriously. Kanzenshuu is one of the last noteworthy refuges from the virulent "nothing but Super matters" nonsense that plagues so much of the western online fandom nowadays. And as sad and misguided as it already is to take that approach for the manga/anime stories themselves, it's a little extra ludicrous to think that way about the video games, which are basically the last things that ever have to worry about what is or isn't part of the so-called "m A i N c O n T i N u I t Y."

Especially when it comes to the Sparking/Tenkaichi series, which rapidly evolved to become an all-inclusive celebration of the entire franchise, not just the most popular bits. We already had a healthy dose of DB, GT, and movie characters in BT2, and then BT3 not only had Arale in the roster, but also a Penguin Village stage along with her for crying out loud! Wanting this new entry to work the same way, and include characters and elements from all of Dragon Ball and not just whatever spinoff is the latest hotness lukewarmness, should almost be a given.

And once again, Kaboom explodes in passionate disappointment over the simple inclusion of Z (a series staple) and Super characters.

Let's not misconstrue things here... Of course I don't expect the game to not include DBS characters. I just don't want to see it be disproportionately overloaded with DBS characters, especially not at the expense of other parts of the franchise that are just as much and even more deserving of representation.

But so far, what relatively little "new" content they've shown off for the game has been... just Super characters. Which is not a good sign for the game having an actual varied and engaging roster.

[JulieYBM]

The actual continuity (and best content, meaning the original main story and Super) must be given priority and the weirdness that is the rest can wait for extra development, weeks, months and years after the initial release.

This is the single most depressing and malignant sentence I've read on this forum in a very long time.

You should read the Furuya thread. Or any number of the other threads where gross misogynistic and queerphobic behavior gets hand-waived by forum users who don't understand that perhaps those things should not be taken lightly.

Seriously, Kanzenshuu is one of the last noteworthy refuges from the virulent "nothing but Super matters" nonsense that plagues so much of the western online fandom nowadays. And as sad and misguided as it already is to take that approach for the manga/anime stories themselves, it's a little extra ludicrous to think that way about the video games, which are basically the last things that ever have to worry about what is or isn't part of the so-called "m A i N c O n T i N u I t Y."

Especially when it comes to the Sparking/Tenkaichi series, which by the third entry evolved to become an all-inclusive celebration of the entire franchise, not just the most popular bits. I mean, it had Arale in the roster, for crying out loud! Wanting this new entry to work the same way, and include characters from ALL of Dragon Ball and not just the latest hotness lukewarmness, should almost be a given.

Kaboom, come on. I know you don't actually care this much. It's just a video game. It's just a silly comic franchise. I'm getting on my hands and feet and begging you to stop taking whatever misery you're going through out on Dragon Ball Super, because it's not actually helping you. You're not mad about Super fans, you're not mad about fans stuffing you into a locker and stealing your lunch money because you like Dragon Ball GT, or Shuura from Dragon Ball, you're just focusing on this shit because it lets you feel some degree of control. I get it, I've been there. This isn't what you actually want to be doing. Making posts like you've been making for damned near ten years isn't what you want to be doing. If it was making you happier you wouldn't need to keep doing it. Just stop. It's okay! There's no therapy in making seventeen trillion posts a year about how "the Saiyans have blue hair and that's bad, and also everyone liking those forms are the problem because I can't just ignore them, I need to be angry at them." You're not making substantial criticisms, and when you might be somewhere close to maybe doing that you undercut your arguments with such blatant bitterness that it's clear something else is bothering you, and discussions just turn into pissing contests.

I don't even disagree with you on the principle of celebrating all parts of the franchise. I would love to have Si Xing Long, or San Xing Long or Redict or Big Daddy General Rilld in Sparking! ZERO to play against Zamasu, or Kefla, or Jiren. I would love to see those vibrant personalities clash in dialogue and on screen, and franchise video games are usually where that's easiest to do that.

Okay, there. I've used up a ton of spoons writing that, so I'm probably just going to not reply to this discussion anymore. Just think about what I've said.

[omegalucas]

Really cool trailer. Got super excited when "Saikyou no Fusion" started playing. But then it said "This background music is not included in the game."

[Jord]

It is pretty bad they spent time and money on Super jobbers instead of the more meaningful characters. I can see that they want the main hitters from Super but instead of spreading across all major releases (DB, Z, GT, Super and heck even Heroes) they spend a lot of effort on a series of which the anime has been dead for over 4 years. In the meantime, they did produce one movie but that's it. No other animation or anything. There's the manga, sure, but that's apparently not financially worthwhile enough to produce animation or merchandise for it.

With the next chapter being Daima, I'm more interested to see what we'll get from that series in the game.

[Kaboom]

With the next chapter being Daima, I'm more interested to see what we'll get from that series in the game.

Honestly? Me too, way more so than any of this tiresome DBS slop.

In fact, it'd be really freakin' cool if one of the next big character showcases was all three versions of Kid Goku — DB, GT, and Daima — being revealed together.