"Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement, Pre-, & Post-Release Discussion Thread

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Post by JulieYBM » Sun Jun 02, 2024 2:31 pm

I need more Gokuu faces, to be honest. It's like Saber from the Fate franchise: the more the merrier!

Someone give Tullece his own unique Super Saiyan form ala Broli, Kale, and friends.
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Post by Bardock God of Time » Sun Jun 02, 2024 3:29 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 2:31 pm I need more Gokuu faces, to be honest. It's like Saber from the Fate franchise: the more the merrier!

Someone give Tullece his own unique Super Saiyan form ala Broli, Kale, and friends.
I do think eventually with DLC, hopefully we start getting DB Heroes content....I don't know why Xenoverse 2 never tapped into that but give me all the What If forms like SSJ4 Bardock and LSSJ4 Broly

They can have small What If Stories to go alongside the DLC

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Post by Nickolaidas » Sun Jun 02, 2024 3:43 pm

Rinsankajugin wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:14 pm
They still have yet to reveal Buu Saga Gohan's other forms (Super Saiyan, SS2, Ultimate, Great Saiyaman), and there's the sneaking chance Gohan (Super) could be his own character with his own forms (Super Saiyan, Ultimate, Beast). Also, if the old Sonny Strait instagram post is any indication, Bardock is very likely for the roster. Whether or not they add his Oozaru, Super Saiyan form or any of his crewmates is a toss-up. And there's always a chance they might add the Daima and Xeno versions of Goku as DLC. Also Goku Black and Baby Vegeta.
Awesome. So we get 30 more Saiyans at the least.

Way this is going, the roster will be like, 120 saiyans (who are variations of eight characters) and 60 other characters.

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Post by Grimlock » Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:21 pm

Zephyr wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 10:15 amI thought it was pretty obvious I was talking about the broad sequence of events like "Super Saiyan God Goku fights Beerus -> Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku fights Golden Freeza -> Goku fights Hit -> etc." Those are now going to be regarded as "the things that happen next after Boo" within the franchise. There are now more major fights, and, accordingly, a game like Sparking ought to account for that in its base roster. This should not be difficult to grasp.
My previous post wasn't an indirect at you.
Zephyr wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 10:15 amI get that hearing this sort of stuff strikes a really weird nerve for you guys, but you truly don't have to feign ignorance about this stuff for a bizarre performative victim complex. (...) You do not need to fall into survival mode and make the most disingenuous replies you can muster because your very honor and sense of human dignity are on the line, whenever someone suggests that "thing you like" isn't the main attraction.
It doesn't. My issues so far are the poor handling of the marketing and the lack of anything resembling surprise. You can have your obvious selection of Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball Super characters announcements, just give me something I am not expecting too. I am not going to get excited over a(some) character(s) that I know it's coming. It was probably not their intention, but Nickolaidas just made the situation worse by bringing up exactly and making very clear what has been the problem since the announcement of this game over a year ago.

Whether you accept it or not, it is an extremely shitty situation that we still don't know anything about this game yet. If you (somehow) can get excited over the very little that has been announced so far, good for you, I cannot. I want to see something new. It is high time for that.

Poor marketing has been a thing ever since the announcement of Dragon Ball Super Super Hero, so instead of wasting time defending these weird corporate decisions, you should join me in complaining about this nonsense that has been plaguing Dragon Ball for years now (and don't get me started on the fact that we are already in the middle of the year, and nothing on Dragon Ball Daima. I don't think I need to remind you it's the fortieth Dragon Ball anniversary...).

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Post by Gt91 » Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:54 pm

Bardock God of Time wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 3:29 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 2:31 pm I need more Gokuu faces, to be honest. It's like Saber from the Fate franchise: the more the merrier!

Someone give Tullece his own unique Super Saiyan form ala Broli, Kale, and friends.
I do think eventually with DLC, hopefully we start getting DB Heroes content....I don't know why Xenoverse 2 never tapped into that but give me all the What If forms like SSJ4 Bardock and LSSJ4 Broly

They can have small What If Stories to go alongside the DLC
I would love it too!
Xeno Bardock (ssj, ssj3 and ss4) and Broly (Lssj, ss4 e limit breaker would be great as DLCs :D

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Post by Zephyr » Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:59 pm

Hugo Boss wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 12:57 pmWith all due respect, while Dragon Ball Super and other spin-offs like GT bring in new elements and characters, they are expansions rather than the "central continuity" of the original work. And I actually agree with the users above who mentioned that Dragon Ball Super doesn't have a well-defined continuity either. So, using that as an argument for its extensive representation in the game doesn't really hold up for me.

The main reason I believe “Super” has such a significant presence is probably because it's the TV series most familiar to younger fans, which makes sense from a marketing perspective.

I also get that the early phases of Dragon Ball haven't seen much representation in fighting games, mostly because the battle mechanics are different—they don't fly around or shoot ki blasts as much. But these elements could be balanced to create a fresh, "zero" experience, as the game's name suggests. This would give players a chance to engage with the foundational parts of the series in a new (and exciting) way.

So, when we're talking about which characters to include in a game that aims to capture the essence of the Dragon Ball universe, it would make sense to focus first on the timeline and characters from "Pilaf to Boo." This is the sequence that resonates most with long-time fans and stays true to the original material.
I mean, no, Super is obviously not a part of the original work. But this whole 'revival era' batch of material has been clearly presented as basically being "Dragon Ball 2", for good or for ill. And, yeah, it's obviously no secret that it doesn't exist as a single work with a single adaptation. But in terms of what pieces of that batch of material the games care about, it's much more straightforward than the continuity nerds insist upon: it's the TV anime for the most part. This ain't difficult to grasp.

And yeah, there's the fact that Z and Super are the most popular and well-known parts of the series, something people also probably somehow need a reality check on. I don't say this as a fanboy or anything, either; my favorite character is Tao Pai Pai and my favorite stretch of the series is from Tenshinhan to Freeza, so the consistent pre-Raditz snubbing annoys me as well.

But yeah, I'd love to see battle mechanics reworked so that the flight and ki blast heavy stuff could build off of earlier forms of combat, rather than being the central point of the gameplay. But at that point you might as well get a different team to make a different sort of game. This is something I would love to see, but it's the very last thing I would expect to see from a Sparking game.

Kaboom wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 12:54 pmI dunno, maybe I'm just not impressionable enough to buy into the notion that a shoddy 20-years-removed spinoff with an identity crisis should be considered the "main" anything at the expense of other much better material, even the original core story itself, just because it had like 10% more phoned-in Toriyama involvement than usual.
I'm not talking about what "should" be considered the main continuity, I'm trying to help folks understand why maybe "Super", exaggerated identity crisis or not, is being treated the way it is in video games and the like. But I should stop, because there's clearly something bigger going on here that isn't really my place to get involved with, nor would it be kind to snark at. I wish you well.

Grimlock wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:21 pmMy previous post wasn't an indirect at you.
Fair enough, I apologize for getting spicy.

Grimlock wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:21 pmMy issues so far are the poor handling of the marketing and the lack of anything resembling surprise. You can have your obvious selection of Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball Super characters announcements, just give me something I am not expecting too. I am not going to get excited over a(some) character(s) that I know it's coming. It was probably not their intention, but Nickolaidas just made the situation worse by bringing up exactly and making very clear what has been the problem since the announcement of this game over a year ago.

Whether you accept it or not, it is an extremely shitty situation that we still don't know anything about this game yet. If you (somehow) can get excited over the very little that has been announced so far, good for you, I cannot. I want to see something new. It is high time for that.

Poor marketing has been a thing ever since the announcement of Dragon Ball Super Super Hero, so instead of wasting time defending these weird corporate decisions, you should join me in complaining about this nonsense that has been plaguing Dragon Ball for years now (and don't get me started on the fact that we are already in the middle of the year, and nothing on Dragon Ball Daima. I don't think I need to remind you it's the fortieth Dragon Ball anniversary...).
I mean, honestly, I'm not bothered by the marketing. I won't say it's good marketing, but this is the kind of thing where we don't really need them to spell very much out. This is very much the kind of thing where we pretty much know what we're gonna get. It's a Sparking game. We've had several of these before. Tell me "new Sparking game but with characters from more recent material". Okay, cool, gotcha. Frankly I can just wait till the game's out without seeing anything else.

I will agree though that some unexpected stuff would be nice to see. My main curiosity is how much old stuff is going to be left out of the base game, and how much of it will be in as DLC. Will all of it come back, at least as DLC, or will there be some completely left by the wayside once this game's life cycle is complete? Will there be some out there picks, like Baby Janemba or Kuriza? I'm excited to find out, but I know I won't get answers to all of these questions for a long time, probably several years. And that's fine! I've got other games I can play in the meantime, and other non-gaming related things to do as well.

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Post by Xeogran » Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:15 am

Zephyr wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:59 pm This is very much the kind of thing where we pretty much know what we're gonna get. It's a Sparking game. We've had several of these before. Tell me "new Sparking game but with characters from more recent material". Okay, cool, gotcha.
The thing is, the last Sparking game was on PS2, and we're now halfway into the PS5 era. The technology jump is insane, and there is so much more they could switch and improve, so many new possible battle mechanics to add. Raging Blast brought quite a few new fresh options, but it seems they're reverting them back there due to Sparking nostalgia which is a weird choice. For all intents and purposes, this game should be much more advanced to the PS2 series and I still hope it will turn out that way.

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Post by Rinsankajugin » Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:38 am

Xeogran wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:15 am The thing is, the last Sparking game was on PS2, and we're now halfway into the PS5 era. The technology jump is insane, and there is so much more they could switch and improve, so many new possible battle mechanics to add. Raging Blast brought quite a few new fresh options, but it seems they're reverting them back there due to Sparking nostalgia which is a weird choice. For all intents and purposes, this game should be much more advanced to the PS2 series and I still hope it will turn out that way.
To be fair, whether or not the devs would like to admit it, Sparking Zero is as much a reboot as it is a sequel, as contradictory as that sounds. Returning to the old Tenkaichi gameplay style is good for both nostalgia AND technical reasons. While Raging Blast had good concepts like cancelling combos into other combos, the way they did it felt kinda clunky, and Raging Blast 2 just felt VERY slow for some reason. Using Tenkaichi 3 as a basis point and expanding on that is a pretty good way to refine the game. And even then, it's not like they forgot about Raging Blast stuff, they did bring over beam deflections, Goku (Super) does seemingly have one of his cancel combos from Raging Blast, and I think Vegetto even has his multi-input Complete Shot rush attack.

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Post by Bardock God of Time » Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:48 pm

https://x.com/billbil_kun/status/1797968974560518366

If we're getting an Ultimate Edition announcement, we can expect the release date this Friday alongside the game's cover

We know the cover has UI Goku on it from the Steam Icon that accidently went up too early

I'm going to assume we'll see UI Goku this Friday and whoever is also on the cover

This is going to be a big trailer, I think they'll announce a lot of heavy hitters since there'll be lots of eyes on SGF.

Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo if they're in the game, SSJ4 Gogeta, Goku Black Rose, maybe some OG Dragon Ball characters if they're in the game

Story Mode trailer? Closed Beta test announcement too?

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Post by Nickolaidas » Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:30 pm

Bardock God of Time wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:48 pm https://x.com/billbil_kun/status/1797968974560518366

If we're getting an Ultimate Edition announcement, we can expect the release date this Friday alongside the game's cover
So, based on the 40-50 extra bucks price, I think it's safe to assume we're getting a season pass. It can't be just OST and digital artbooks and whatnot.

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Post by miguelnuva1 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:28 pm

GT, OG, movies and Daima are probably going to he Dlc packs since their is an ultimate edition coming.

A lot of people are going to hate it but at the same time you can sell a Dragonball game on Z and Super and save the rest of the series for Dlc.

People will buy a GT pack headlined by SS4 a movie pack with OG Broly, Cooler. Bardock and OG Gogeta and Daima will be the new Dragonball series so it will sell.

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Post by omegalucas » Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:55 pm

Nickolaidas wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:30 pm
Bardock God of Time wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:48 pm https://x.com/billbil_kun/status/1797968974560518366

If we're getting an Ultimate Edition announcement, we can expect the release date this Friday alongside the game's cover
So, based on the 40-50 extra bucks price, I think it's safe to assume we're getting a season pass. It can't be just OST and digital artbooks and whatnot.
Probably a figure if we go by previous games.
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Post by shadd21 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:30 pm

Link to the document: https://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer?c ... x=0&page=1



So yeah, At this point the game is all but confirmed to be releasing this year.

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shadd21 wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:30 pm
Link to the document: https://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer?c ... x=0&page=1



So yeah, At this point the game is all but confirmed to be releasing this year.
All but confirmed means it's not confirmed. Are you confirming it's not?

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Post by Bardock God of Time » Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:53 am

Playstation store updated the Offline players from 1 to 1-2

So Local play is in

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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:48 pm

I'm glad local play is confirmed.

I can't wait to see how the story mode is implemented.
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sangofe wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:28 am All but confirmed means it's not confirmed. Are you confirming it's not?
Not a native English speaker, but I always thought the 'all but' basically means 99% of the next word being affirmed.

'At this point it's all but certain that Goku and Vegeta are fighting each other in the finals.'


Ah, there it is. Apparently it can mean BOTH.
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(everything or everyone except for):

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They checked the samples and rejected all but two.
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The school was originally built in 1950, and all but the foundation was rebuilt in 1995.
Let's face it, all but the most insanely optimistic are tired of pretending that things are getting better.




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The game was all but over by the time we arrived.
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Bardock God of Time wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:53 am Playstation store updated the Offline players from 1 to 1-2

So Local play is in
If ture hype is being restored. The no local multiplier reason from that interview was always wired to me.

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Post by shadd21 » Wed Jun 05, 2024 4:40 pm

sangofe wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:28 am
shadd21 wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:30 pm
Link to the document: https://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer?c ... x=0&page=1



So yeah, At this point the game is all but confirmed to be releasing this year.
All but confirmed means it's not confirmed. Are you confirming it's not?
I meant it's confirmed, but not officially, basically like a leak

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Post by super michael » Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:00 am

JulieYBM wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 2:31 pm I need more Gokuu faces, to be honest. It's like Saber from the Fate franchise: the more the merrier!

Someone give Tullece his own unique Super Saiyan form ala Broli, Kale, and friends.
I like Fate, I watched Fate/Stay Night, Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Work and Fate/Zero.
I need to watch all the Fate/Stay Night Heaven's Feel.

I like Saber and Archer (Rin Tohsaka partner).



I am going to get this game for sure, the game looks impressive. It has tag team and even fusion in the game. The fights looks fast and good.

miguelnuva1 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 3:18 pm
Bardock God of Time wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:53 am Playstation store updated the Offline players from 1 to 1-2

So Local play is in
If ture hype is being restored. The no local multiplier reason from that interview was always wired to me.
In this link it says 1 player only. 2 players is only for online.
https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10007902/

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