Is Goku & 18 vs Super 17 the only time a woman helped in finishing the main villain?

[Jord]

Not withstanding the spirit bomb of course.
I mean a main character helping dealing the finishing blow.
For all the crap the Super 17 saga got, I found it a nice touch how Goku needed 18 to finish Super 17 off.

[AliTheZombie13]

Pan helped defeat Lood and turn Goku into SSJ4. She also helped with defeating the Six Star Dragon. If it weren't for Pan forcing Goku and Trunks to stop by and help the planets' populations, the Universal Genki Dama probably wouldn't have worked.

Also, if it weren't for Bulma's Time Machine, the world would be fucked.

[DragonBallFoodie]

Can we count Pan for the fight against Cell Max?

[TechExpert2021]

Can we count Pan for the fight against Cell Max?

I don't think Pan served her role in helping Gohan defeat the ugly Cell Max.

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Bulma almost helped a lot in the Cell Saga. Time machine, offered to kill Gero early, told everyone the location of his lab, made the remote controls to deactivate the androids... It's just that the guys were too dumb to take action. I'm surprised she never had a key role in the early series, her being one of the MCs and all.

I think 18 helped Goten and Trunks defeat Bio Broly, but I must admit I never watched that movie

Pan helped defeat Lood and turn Goku into SSJ4. She also helped with defeating the Six Star Dragon. If it weren't for Pan forcing Goku and Trunks to stop by and help the planets' populations, the Universal Genki Dama probably wouldn't have worked.

Also, if it weren't for Bulma's Time Machine, the world would be fucked.

She was also part of the trio Kamehameha that killed General Rildo, though I doubt either of the hybrids were really needed. And if not for her, Goku might not have controlled his Oozaru form and turned into a SSJ4.

Can we count Pan for the fight against Cell Max?

You mean 18?

[Dragon ball master]

Does bulma Throwing the last dragon ball in King Gurumes count.

[Jord]

Pan helped defeat Lood and turn Goku into SSJ4. She also helped with defeating the Six Star Dragon. If it weren't for Pan forcing Goku and Trunks to stop by and help the planets' populations, the Universal Genki Dama probably wouldn't have worked.

Also, if it weren't for Bulma's Time Machine, the world would be fucked.

I actually meant dealing the finishing blow, and you are right about Lood. Completely forgot about him, even though I like it's design.

[BootyCheeksJohnson]

If you mean helping defeat the big bad of the arc then I think so.

[SupremeKai25]

No. Universe 2's Ribrianne was a main antagonist of the Tournament of Power saga and 18 took her out all by herself.

[MasenkoHA]

No. Universe 2's Ribrianne was a main antagonist of the Tournament of Power saga

No she wasn't. She's no more a main antagonist to that arc than Giran was to the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai arc or Man-Wolf was to the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai or Chi Chi to the 23rd

[SupremeKai25]

No. Universe 2's Ribrianne was a main antagonist of the Tournament of Power saga

No she wasn't. She's no more a main antagonist to that arc than Giran was to the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai arc or Man-Wolf was to the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai or Chi Chi to the 23rd

Wrong. Ribrianne was the leader of one of the strongest teams in the tournament and a recurring thorn in the side to the protagonists.

She is more of a main antagonist than Luud and the Six-Star Dragon.

[Jord]

The main antagonist of the Top, the main "villain", was Jiren imo.

[SupremeKai25]

The main antagonist of the Top, the main "villain", was Jiren imo.

Luud is the main antagonist of what saga?

[JulieYBM]

Damn, it sucks that Dragon Ball GT is the only time that this has really happened. I would love for another arc to feature a female character getting to defeat the main antagonist of an arc.

[Majin Buu]

While the example he brought up from the Universe Survival Saga doesn't hold up, SupremeKai25 bringing up that arc does call to mind something about it I noticed when I watched it that may or may not relate to this topic:

Universes 2 and 6 are the ones with the most prominent female fighters, but those female fighters are not the final fighters from those universes. Instead, less prominent male fighters end up being the final fighters of those two universes (With the Universe 2 males outright cosplaying as their female fighters to boot).

I thought that was a bit weird when I first noticed it. It's like making Kahseral, Cocotte, and Zoire the final fighters of Universe 11 instead of Dyspo, Toppo, and Jiren.

[SupremeKai25]

While the example he brought up from the Universe Survival Saga doesn't hold up

Why?

Why do Luud and Six-Star Dragon "hold up", but not Ribrianne?

[MasenkoHA]

While the example he brought up from the Universe Survival Saga doesn't hold up

Why?

Why do Luud and Six-Star Dragon "hold up", but not Ribrianne?

You and only you ever claimed those were the main antagonist.

[SupremeKai25]

While the example he brought up from the Universe Survival Saga doesn't hold up

Why?

Why do Luud and Six-Star Dragon "hold up", but not Ribrianne?

You and only you ever claimed those were the main antagonist.

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Pan helped defeat Lood and turn Goku into SSJ4. She also helped with defeating the Six Star Dragon. If it weren't for Pan forcing Goku and Trunks to stop by and help the planets' populations, the Universal Genki Dama probably wouldn't have worked.

Also, if it weren't for Bulma's Time Machine, the world would be fucked.

Pan helped defeat Lood and turn Goku into SSJ4. She also helped with defeating the Six Star Dragon. If it weren't for Pan forcing Goku and Trunks to stop by and help the planets' populations, the Universal Genki Dama probably wouldn't have worked.

Also, if it weren't for Bulma's Time Machine, the world would be fucked.

I actually meant dealing the finishing blow, and you are right about Lood. Completely forgot about him, even though I like it's design.

So I am asking you: why do you not take an issue with mentioning Luud or Six-Star Dragon, but you take an issue with me mentioning Ribrianne?

[Majin Buu]

Why?

Why do Luud and Six-Star Dragon "hold up", but not Ribrianne?

Because Ribrianne isn't a main villain (and for the record, I don't view Luud or The Six-Star Dragon as "main villains" either).

And I'd argue she isn't even a "villain" period, she's just someone fighting for her survival just like all the other fighters in that arc. The closest thing that arc has to "villains" IMO are Zeno, the Grand Priest, Freeza, and Jiren (anime version and only towards the end when he tries to kill Goku's friends).

[MasenkoHA]

Why?

Why do Luud and Six-Star Dragon "hold up", but not Ribrianne?

Because Ribrianne isn't a main villain (and for the record, I don't view Luud or The Six-Star Dragon as "main villains" either).

And I'd argue she isn't even a "villain" period, she's just someone fighting for her survival just like all the other fighters in that arc. The closest thing that arc has to "villains" IMO are Zeno, the Grand Priest, Freeza, and Jiren (anime version and only towards the end when he tries to kill Goku's friends).

Right this and I only really consider Zeno to be the main villain since he's the one threatening to wipe out Universe 7.

But it's not really a story arc to have a main villain. At any rate it's definitely not Ribrianne who gets the spotlight in a few episodes but isn't the main opposing force. She's as much a main villain as like Zarbon or Captain Ginyu