Dragonball Movie Update! What is UP with this?

Storm · Post by **Storm** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:25 pm

Really...was that Freeza scene necessary? I don't know if it was like that in the manga, but holy shit...I get queasy just thinking about it. The blood spilling on Vegeta doesn't help.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:28 pm

Storm wrote:Really...was that Freeza scene necessary? I don't know if it was like that in the manga, but holy shit...I get queasy just thinking about it. The blood spilling on Vegeta doesn't help.

Wow that's where you draw the line? Do yourself a favor and don't venture too far into these here interwebs.

Shenron · Post by **Shenron** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:35 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
Storm wrote:Really...was that Freeza scene necessary? I don't know if it was like that in the manga, but holy shit...I get queasy just thinking about it. The blood spilling on Vegeta doesn't help.
Wow that's where you draw the line? Do yourself a favor and don't venture too far into these here interwebs.

Yes, it's not that bad. I don't remember being traumatized by this, and I was 13 when it aired.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:37 pm

Storm wrote:Really...was that Freeza scene necessary? I don't know if it was like that in the manga, but holy shit...I get queasy just thinking about it. The blood spilling on Vegeta doesn't help.

It was in the manga, but it was waaaaaay more brief (just a few panels). Toei for some reason or another felt the need to.... add on to it.

As a lifelong, unapologetic, dyed in the wool gorehound though, I'm personally not complaining one bit (and this is coming from a huge Kuririn fan).

Oddly enough there's a wonderfully visceral moment later in the manga where Dr. Gero as #20 pulls some poor random sap out of his car and squeezes his neck until his head pops off like a Champaign cork. Toei cut this out of the anime, altering it instead into Gero breaking his neck.

Why they would up the brutality hardcore for one scene and scale it back for another is yet another of life's little mysteries.

EDIT: Found it.

It ain't Riki-oh or anything, but a far cry from PG territory just the same.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:38 pm

Shenron wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:
Storm wrote:Really...was that Freeza scene necessary? I don't know if it was like that in the manga, but holy shit...I get queasy just thinking about it. The blood spilling on Vegeta doesn't help.
Wow that's where you draw the line? Do yourself a favor and don't venture too far into these here interwebs.
Yes, it's not that bad. I don't remember being traumatized by this, and I was 13 when it aired.

My 7 year old cousin was actually yipping away with excitement when these scenes happened even though I had it in Japanese and he wasn't reading any of the subtitles (I assume). I'm glad good emotional scenes like these exist, they make the anime worth watching.

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:38 pm

Still, an accurate live action representation of that scene would not get a PG rating.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:42 pm

Storm wrote:Really...was that Freeza scene necessary? I don't know if it was like that in the manga, but holy shit...I get queasy just thinking about it. The blood spilling on Vegeta doesn't help.

Wasn't like that in the manga. Freeza speared him, laughed, then slung him away. It's about six panels.

djkalteraphine · Post by **djkalteraphine** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:43 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFdSGSal65k

I know it's offtopic, but I just amused myself by trying to read along with the subtitles.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:50 pm

djkalteraphine wrote:
Kunzait_83 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFdSGSal65k
I know it's offtopic, but I just amused myself by trying to read along with the subtitles.

Hey sue me, it was the best I could find on short notice.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:55 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:
Xyex wrote:
But when the fighting gets serious in its original serious form I really can't see it as PG
Well, as I was just recently corrected on, the anime itself was only TV-PG. So yeah. A PG rating would entail everything seen in the anime so there's no real reason to go higher.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A-A8p_r ... 73&index=0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFdSGSal65k

I know in Japan this is considered a kid's show... but you also have to factor in vast differences in cultural norms. I don't think I'm incorrect in stating that their definition of PG differs a touch from ours.

Unless we're just talking DB and not factoring in Z... but even then, DB has it's occaisional "icky" moments later on (and is BIIIIIIIG on the nudity and sexual humor, but I suppose that's safe to consider a non-factor in the live action flick).

OMG. I, I've heard of that scene before but I've never actually SEEN it. (The Kuririn one; I don't even think I've seen the uncut version of that Yamcha scene). That was....horrific, what he did to Kuririn.

Definitely PG-13.

Storm · Post by **Storm** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:55 pm

Obviously I'm not going to go and cry after watching that scene. But the thought of it...especially if it was done in live action. >_>

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:42 pm

Y'know, if Marsters does make a great Piccolo but the rest of everything does suck, maybe I'll be able to go see it and think "This isn't Dragonball. This is PiccoloWned: The Movie!"

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:07 pm

I'm willing to bet that this movie will get Marsters his own fan club, at least from the Dragonball community. His portrail of Piccolo will probably be my highlight of 2009.

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Storm wrote:Obviously I'm not going to go and cry after watching that scene. But the thought of it...especially if it was done in live action. >_>

I might...

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:26 pm

SSj_Rambo wrote:
Storm wrote:Obviously I'm not going to go and cry after watching that scene. But the thought of it...especially if it was done in live action. >_>
I might...

[quote="Jesse "Blain" Ventura"]"Hmph. Buncha slack-jawed faggots 'round here! This stuff'll make ya a goddamn sexual Tyrannosaurus! Just like me!"[/quote]

djkalteraphine · Post by **djkalteraphine** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:15 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:
djkalteraphine wrote:
Kunzait_83 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFdSGSal65k
I know it's offtopic, but I just amused myself by trying to read along with the subtitles.
Hey sue me, it was the best I could find on short notice.

Oh, I loved it, no worries. I don't want to sue, I want to give you a treat.

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:51 pm

Man, that clip made me feel so bad for Krillin. Especially the music. I forgot that I had only seen that scene in the edited dub.

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:51 pm

Shenron wrote: Yes, it's not that bad. I don't remember being traumatized by this, and I was 13 when it aired.

True, there's much worse out there, but while I wasn't traumatized I was pretty disturbed by the Krillian scene (particularly the licking the blood off his face- that squicked me out). The Yamcha scene just upsets me because I adore Yamcha, and I know how much what happened them messed him up.

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:56 pm

Big Momma wrote:Man, that clip made me feel so bad for Krillin. Especially the music. I forgot that I had only seen that scene in the edited dub.

I agree, the music is what does it. It also happens to be my favorite song out of all three anime series and all of the video games. Interestingly enough it was originally used as just an intro for the legion of Demons in the second DB movie but for the DBZ series they used it as a death theme, playing it when Piccolo was killed by Nappa, when Kuririn was stabbed by Freeza and when Freeza destroyed Planet Vegeta.

If that song made it into this live action movie it would be the greatest and the most unlikely thing to have ever happened!

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:13 pm

Could someone tell me the name of that BGM and which soundtrack its on?

Also, I came across this when looking at character bios. I don't know if its been posted or not:

Chow Yun-Fat - Master Roshi
Character Description - This older man is a good friend of Goku’s grandfather, Gohan, and Goku comes to enlist his help after his grandfather is killed. Although he looks like a beggar, Roshi is one of the worlds most fearsome fighters. Master Roshi begins Goku’s rigorous training to prepare him for the adventure of finding and fighting for the seven Dragon Balls to save the world from Piccolo’s destructive plan. A wise, somewhat wry man who knows as much about human nature as he does about martial arts, Master Roshi is impressed with Goku’s fighting but reminds him of his failings as well. Ultimately, Master Roshi sacrifices his own life in order to destroy Piccolo.

Did that happen in the original? I haven't seen much DB

djkalteraphine · Post by **djkalteraphine** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:14 pm

Big Momma wrote:
Chow Yun-Fat - Master Roshi
Character Description - This older man is a good friend of Goku’s grandfather, Gohan, and Goku comes to enlist his help after his grandfather is killed. Although he looks like a beggar, Roshi is one of the worlds most fearsome fighters. Master Roshi begins Goku’s rigorous training to prepare him for the adventure of finding and fighting for the seven Dragon Balls to save the world from Piccolo’s destructive plan. A wise, somewhat wry man who knows as much about human nature as he does about martial arts, Master Roshi is impressed with Goku’s fighting but reminds him of his failings as well. Ultimately, Master Roshi sacrifices his own life in order to destroy Piccolo.
Did that happen in the original? I haven't seen much DB

Yes.

Roshi's greatest scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJyEPrtMZUY