Was Yamcha ever stronger than Kuririn?

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Was Yamcha ever stronger than Kuririn?

Post by Yuji » Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:24 am

Kuririn vs Tenshinhan is a pretty heated debate but before the Saiyan arc, Kuririn clearly had no argument for being the strongest human. One could argue before battle powers were introduced that the story implied Yamcha was closer to Tenshinhan. I'd say by the 23rd Budokai, Kuririn edges Yamcha out due to their respective performances against Piccolo and God, but before then, could Yamcha have been stronger?

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Re: Was Yamcha ever stronger than Kuririn?

Post by LightBing » Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:53 am

I'll say he was stronger until Kuririn was trained by Muten Roshi. Then he was always behind.

Kuririn got ahead and never let go of the advantage.

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Re: Was Yamcha ever stronger than Kuririn?

Post by Koitsukai » Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:24 pm

Not likely, Krilin has been training with Roshi for longer than Yamcha, and he even had Goku as a training partner. One could say Yamcha started stronger than Krilin, because he "beat" Goku, but he beat a guy who was starving and tired, so take that with a grain of salt.

In any case, Krilin trained for longer with Roshi than Yamcha, so there's no reason for him to be weaker than a guy who never even trained with Goku.

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Re: Was Yamcha ever stronger than Kuririn?

Post by theherodjl » Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:47 pm

Not sure about the manga, but in the anime, Yamcha became stronger than Krillin after training on Kaio-Sama's planet for some time, as evidenced by Yamcha defeating Recoome in a fight. However, by the Android arc, Krillin evidently jumped back up ahead of Yamcha once more, likely due to his potential unlock from Saichoro boosting his strength gains as well as possibly doing some occasional sparring with Goku, Piccolo, and Gohan.
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Re: Was Yamcha ever stronger than Kuririn?

Post by nickzambuto » Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:03 pm

I think Yamcha was slightly stronger than Krillin during the 22nd. I think Tenshinhan had a closer fight with Yamcha, then Krillin did with Goku.

Yamcha could have been stronger in the saiyans arc too. They all knew each other's levels, but Yamcha wanted to protect Krillin. Yamcha and Krillin both seemed to think Yamcha was stronger which is why he fought the Saibaman.

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Re: Was Yamcha ever stronger than Kuririn?

Post by Yuji » Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:10 pm

nickzambuto wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:03 pm I think Yamcha was slightly stronger than Krillin during the 22nd. I think Tenshinhan had a closer fight with Yamcha, then Krillin did with Goku.

Yamcha could have been stronger in the saiyans arc too. They all knew each other's levels, but Yamcha wanted to protect Krillin. Yamcha and Krillin both seemed to think Yamcha was stronger which is why he fought the Saibaman.
Discounting Daizenshuu BPs, official battle powers in the manga point to Yamcha pre-Raditz being weaker. I suppose he could have leapfrogged Kuririn for the Saibaman fight, but they both went through the same training and Kuririn was substantially stronger already (206 > 177).

Yamcha went first because Kuririn had already died and couldn't be revived, whereas Yamcha could take the risk. Kuririn one shots three Saibamen right after the fight.

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Re: Was Yamcha ever stronger than Kuririn?

Post by Almighty Majin » Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:19 pm

Desert Bandit Yamcha was definitely stronger than pre-Roshi training Krillin. After that, Krillin pretty much stayed ahead of Yamcha.

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Re: Was Yamcha ever stronger than Kuririn?

Post by ZombieVito » Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:42 pm

Only on their first appearances.
theherodjl wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:47 pm Not sure about the manga, but in the anime, Yamcha became stronger than Krillin after training on Kaio-Sama's planet for some time, as evidenced by Yamcha defeating Recoome in a fight. However, by the Android arc, Krillin evidently jumped back up ahead of Yamcha once more, likely due to his potential unlock from Saichoro boosting his strength gains as well as possibly doing some occasional sparring with Goku, Piccolo, and Gohan.
Krillin was already at 75,000 at the time.

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Re: Was Yamcha ever stronger than Kuririn?

Post by theherodjl » Thu Aug 08, 2024 12:44 am

ZombieVito wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:42 pmKrillin was already at 75,000 at the time.
I don't really think so. That number is sourced from V-Jump, whose figures are questionable if not directly taken from the Daizenshuu. The manga doesn't exactly insinuate that Krillin had raised his power since the Ginyu fight, there's just Vegeta's line about the powers of the earthlings growing. That can mean a number of things though.
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Re: Was Yamcha ever stronger than Kuririn?

Post by nickzambuto » Mon Aug 12, 2024 11:32 pm

Yuji wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:10 pm
nickzambuto wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:03 pm I think Yamcha was slightly stronger than Krillin during the 22nd. I think Tenshinhan had a closer fight with Yamcha, then Krillin did with Goku.

Yamcha could have been stronger in the saiyans arc too. They all knew each other's levels, but Yamcha wanted to protect Krillin. Yamcha and Krillin both seemed to think Yamcha was stronger which is why he fought the Saibaman.
Discounting Daizenshuu BPs, official battle powers in the manga point to Yamcha pre-Raditz being weaker. I suppose he could have leapfrogged Kuririn for the Saibaman fight, but they both went through the same training and Kuririn was substantially stronger already (206 > 177).

Yamcha went first because Kuririn had already died and couldn't be revived, whereas Yamcha could take the risk. Kuririn one shots three Saibamen right after the fight.
You're right. I just try and give Yamcha credit whenever possible.

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