Dragon Ball Daima trailer, October release date announced

[UpFromTheSkies]

Glad to see them using SS instead of SSB, the yellow hair looks so much more iconic.

It's a few shots from a series that is going to run for six months, there's plenty of time to use Super Saiyan Blue, especially considering that Super used both forms numerous times.

Yeah, I'm sure we'll see it at some point in the series unless Goku and Vegeta are supposed to be nerfed from using it. It seems that SSB has become the standard form Goku and Vegeta end up using though, and it's used so much in promotional material and merch, it's nice to see yellow again.

[Soba Mask]

Biggest question if this is before BoG... Will Vegeta finally reach SSJ3 on this?

[JulieYBM]

Dragon Ball Super begins, what, five or six years after the Majin Buu arc? For all we know this series could take place a week after the Gokuu uses the Genki-dama to destroy Majin Buu, so I'm kind of curious if this is actually pre-Beers now.

[kemuri07]

Glad to see them using SS instead of SSB, the yellow hair looks so much more iconic.

It's a few shots from a series that is going to run for six months, there's plenty of time to use Super Saiyan Blue, especially considering that Super used both forms numerous times.

Sure. But I think if SSB were on the cards, we would have seen it in a preview already. We would have seen anything showing that this is indeed taking place during Super's timeline. I've said this since the beginning, but I view Whis and Beerus to be the official mascots of the DBS era of Dragon Ball. The fact that they've been noticeably absent, paired with each trailer showing imagery straight from the Buu arc tells me that this isn't just another arc in DBS. Either we're in for time traveling shenanigans, or this is an alt-universe story.

Either way..If Goku and Vegeta could just power up to SSB, then what is even the point of having them Chibi-sized? I mean why even make such a big deal about a new show if it's just going to be business as usual?

[Koitsukai]

Doesn't Shin's presence as just Shin and not Kibito-Shin imply this is after they got defused (which happened after BoG)? Although, maybe the wish defused Kibito-Shin, and whenever they return to normal, they get fused again.

If it's a low-stakes series, then it should be prior to the whole godly powers thing from DBS.

[JulieYBM]

Glad to see them using SS instead of SSB, the yellow hair looks so much more iconic.

It's a few shots from a series that is going to run for six months, there's plenty of time to use Super Saiyan Blue, especially considering that Super used both forms numerous times.

Sure. But I think if SSB were on the cards, we would have seen it in a preview already. We would have seen anything showing that this is indeed taking place during Super's timeline. I've said this since the beginning, but I view Whis and Beerus to be the official mascots of the DBS era of Dragon Ball. The fact that they've been noticeably absent, paired with each trailer showing imagery straight from the Buu arc tells me that this isn't just another arc in DBS. Either we're in for time traveling shenanigans, or this is an alt-universe story.

Either way..If Goku and Vegeta could just power up to SSB, then what is even the point of having them Chibi-sized? I mean why even make such a big deal about a new show if it's just going to be business as usual?

I never expect the miniturization of the characters to seriously affect their combat abilities. Heck, in this trailer alone we're still seeing big ki stuff happening.

That said, I'm not even married to this being set during or sometimes in the events of Dragon Ball Super. My hunch is that this is actually before Dragon Ball Super, going based off of the focus on the Majin Buu arc and the designs of the characters.

[yugidmx5]

Does anyone know the lyrics/translaton of the opening that was played in the trailer?

[Yuji]

Doesn't Shin's presence as just Shin and not Kibito-Shin imply this is after they got defused (which happened after BoG)? Although, maybe the wish defused Kibito-Shin, and whenever they return to normal, they get fused again.

If it's a low-stakes series, then it should be prior to the whole godly powers thing from DBS.

Geekdom said that the story is pre-BoG and the wish reverted the fusion, so presumably they go back to normal once the series is over or Toriyama just retcons the defusion to be done here rather than through Namekian dragon balls and we forget that moment during U6 never happened. Of course this means you have to take Geekdom's word, which isn't always the most reliable.

[M16U3L2015]

I think it's pre-BoG, since you don't see Beerus, Whiss, Pan and Bra in any of the trailers, plus Trunks and Goten should have become children instead of babies if it was after Super Hero.

[GTx10]

Doesn't Shin's presence as just Shin and not Kibito-Shin imply this is after they got defused (which happened after BoG)? Although, maybe the wish defused Kibito-Shin, and whenever they return to normal, they get fused again.

If it's a low-stakes series, then it should be prior to the whole godly powers thing from DBS.

Geekdom said that the story is pre-BoG and the wish reverted the fusion, so presumably they go back to normal once the series is over or Toriyama just retcons the defusion to be done here rather than through Namekian dragon balls and we forget that moment during U6 never happened. Of course this means you have to take Geekdom's word, which isn't always the most reliable.

Well Kibito isn't a god/Kai so wouldn't Kibito Kai and by extension the Old Kai's fusion last only an hour anyway? Maybe this Tiny Kai is a youthful Old Kai? Maybe?

[super michael]

Doesn't Shin's presence as just Shin and not Kibito-Shin imply this is after they got defused (which happened after BoG)? Although, maybe the wish defused Kibito-Shin, and whenever they return to normal, they get fused again.

If it's a low-stakes series, then it should be prior to the whole godly powers thing from DBS.

Geekdom said that the story is pre-BoG and the wish reverted the fusion, so presumably they go back to normal once the series is over or Toriyama just retcons the defusion to be done here rather than through Namekian dragon balls and we forget that moment during U6 never happened. Of course this means you have to take Geekdom's word, which isn't always the most reliable.

How come the wish to turn them into kids only reverted the fusion of Kibito and Kaioshin, but not Piccolo, Nails and Kami? They are both supposed to be permanent, unless they used a wish to cancel their fusion or FSF.

[kemuri07]

Doesn't Shin's presence as just Shin and not Kibito-Shin imply this is after they got defused (which happened after BoG)? Although, maybe the wish defused Kibito-Shin, and whenever they return to normal, they get fused again.

If it's a low-stakes series, then it should be prior to the whole godly powers thing from DBS.

Geekdom said that the story is pre-BoG and the wish reverted the fusion, so presumably they go back to normal once the series is over or Toriyama just retcons the defusion to be done here rather than through Namekian dragon balls and we forget that moment during U6 never happened. Of course this means you have to take Geekdom's word, which isn't always the most reliable.

How come the wish to turn them into kids only reverted the fusion of Kibito and Kaioshin, but not Piccolo, Nails and Kami? They are both supposed to be permanent, unless they used a wish to cancel their fusion or FSF.

Well the reason why is….





Don’t think too hard about it.

[Hellspawn28]

I feel like every DB piece of media takes place in their own timeline. It's easier to view things as their own thing than trying to fit everything into one.

[JulieYBM]

Everything happens where everything happens. There was never going to be consistency among shifting staff across different decades. Things change, nothing is ever the same forever.

[Grimlock]

Biggest question if this is before BoG... Will Vegeta finally reach SSJ3 on this?

If it weren't for Kaioshin of East and Kibito defusing, I would be completely sure that this is set between Majin Buu saga and Movie 14, especially after the latest trailer.

But Vegeta transforming into Super Saiyan 3 and the aforementioned detail above would kind of create some issues. Will Kaioshin of East and Kibito fuse again by the end of the series? And if Vegeta transformed into it, why didn't he use Super Saiyan 3 against Beerus?

All I know is that if they mention Tarble for the third time without even showing him, screams will be heard worldwide.

[LoganForkHands73]

How come the wish to turn them into kids only reverted the fusion of Kibito and Kaioshin, but not Piccolo, Nails and Kami? They are both supposed to be permanent, unless they used a wish to cancel their fusion or FSF.

If I remember rightly, there's a brief shot in the very first trailer of an old Namekian's eye. Could that be Kami, perhaps shortly before reverting to mini form? If Shin and Kibito defuse, it's not outside the realm of possibility that the wish defused Piccolo too. Although he doesn't seem to be part of Goku's main entourage this time, Piccolo is pretty prominent in the marketing (which, granted, is par for the course for any project). His connection to Kami was a key plot point in Super Hero, and in the Super manga, Vegeta mockingly threatened to use his Forced Spirit Fission technique to release Kami and Nail. It's far from a forgotten detail.

I like the idea that while Goku, Shin and these colourful new weirdos are traversing the Demon Realm to find a way to reverse the spell, Piccolo has his own subplot dealing with the dilemma of losing Kami and Nail. There'd be so much to explore there: would Piccolo feel happy that he's finally free to carve his own path without being tied down by his duality with Kami, or would he feel that a piece of himself is missing? And what about poor Nail, who was only ever a convenient power boost, a stopgap on the way to Piccolo's full reunion with his other half. I'd like to imagine that if this kind of story were to take place, Piccolo would merge back with Kami but might let Nail return to Namek where he belongs. This may all sound too dramatic for a Toriyama story, but Piccolo was always one character Toriyama afforded a degree of depth and pathos to.

[FortuneSSJ]

Great trailer. And finally some voice acting!

- It's obvious the visuals will win a lot of people over, who are not satisfied with the premise. Daima looks stunning. We've come a long way since DBS rough start. DBS Broly , Super Hero and now Daima have the high quality that a big franchise like Dragon Ball deserves.

- We're about to be blessed with another immaculate recap by Kubota. Man is just too powerful. Can't pick between him and Takahashi anymore. I just love both.

- I'm glad Goku didn't lose his powers. Martial arts choreography is always welcome, but I don't want Goku back to level 1. And yes, its like GT. Almost. They didn't forget SSJ2 this time. Maybe we will have Toriyama SSJ4 too with Nakatsuru on board..

- Until they prove otherwise, I'm expecting this to take place between Buu arc and BOG. Kibito/Kaioshin either defused when becoming kids or Toriyama just retconned that from the start.

- Still no Gohan or Videl. I don't know if if they are hiding something or just ignoring them.

- Just like Super Hero we have blood again. If we have to change the time slot to have blood on TV, so be it.

- Old sound effects are back. And until they create better ones, they shouldn't have ever been replaced.

- Didn't know Zedd, but I like what I heard. It can't be worse than DBS first Opening. They should have Kageyama join the party and sing something too.

- Still don't know who is the composer. Would love to see Naoki Sato outside of the Super Hero genre. If not him, then someone else other than Sumitomo. He already had Super. Daima composer should be someone else.

[TechExpert2021]

Great trailer. And finally some voice acting!

- It's obvious the visuals will win a lot of people over, who are not satisfied with the premise. Daima looks stunning. We've come a long way since DBS rough start. DBS Broly , Super Hero and now Daima have the high quality that a big franchise like Dragon Ball deserves.

- We're about to be blessed with another immaculate recap by Kubota. Man is just too powerful. Can't pick between him and Takahashi anymore. I just love both.

- I'm glad Goku didn't lose his powers. Martial arts choreography is always welcome, but I don't want Goku back to level 1. And yes, its like GT. Almost. They didn't forget SSJ2 this time. Maybe we will have Toriyama SSJ4 too with Nakatsuru on board..

- Until they prove otherwise, I'm expecting this to take place between Buu arc and BOG. Kibito/Kaioshin either defused when becoming kids or Toriyama just retconned that from the start.

- Still no Gohan or Videl. I don't know if if they are hiding something or just ignoring them.

- Just like Super Hero we have blood again. If we have to change the time slot to have blood on TV, so be it.

- Old sound effects are back. And until they create better ones, they shouldn't have ever been replaced.

- Didn't know Zedd, but I like what I heard. It can't be worse than DBS first Opening. They should have Kageyama join the party and sing something too.

- Still don't know who is the composer. Would love to see Naoki Sato outside of the Super Hero genre. If not him, then someone else other than Sumitomo. He already had Super. Daima composer should be someone else.

There is something I would like to add that I mentioned in this thread earlier: how the international distribution of DB Daima outside Japan will be handled. It might get simulcasted like how Crunchyroll and Daisuki simulcasted DB Super with English subs back in 2015 before Funimation dubbed the series into English in 2017. And since Crunchyroll now has the DB license in North America thanks to the merger with Funimation two years ago, they might do a simuldub of DB Daima (or maybe not, I think).

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

For anyone wanting more of a taste of 'Jaka Jaan', the instrumental is lifted directly from Zedd's recent song, 'Out of Time'. Strange that the Daima theme has essentially just been sitting out there in the open for a couple of months now.

I do get a bit wistful listening to this. We've had plenty of Dragon Ball products with little to no involvement from Toriyama in the past, but this does feel like goodbye.

[Koitsukai]

I hope we get some form explanation as to why Dabura never crossed over to this part of U7. He would've overthrown Freeza immediately, and
of all the people post-Freeza, he's the only one that was able to show up but it's unclear why he never did. He wasn't imprisoned like Moro or Buu, nor a weakling like Gas or Granola.
Was it because they cannot cross over? or because there was no need due to having such a good thing going on that side? is this realm like hell for people that are alive?

Dabura eventually crossed over with Babidi, perhaps he was able to do that only through magic, or maybe he wasn't that strong without the M.