Dragon Ball Daima trailer, October release date announced

[CashmanX]

I hope we get some form explanation as to why Dabura never crossed over to this part of U7. He would've overthrown Freeza immediately, and
of all the people post-Freeza, he's the only one that was able to show up but it's unclear why he never did. He wasn't imprisoned like Moro or Buu, nor a weakling like Gas or Granola.
Was it because they cannot cross over? or because there was no need due to having such a good thing going on that side? is this realm like hell for people that are alive?

Dabura eventually crossed over with Babidi, perhaps he was able to do that only through magic, or maybe he wasn't that strong without the M.

I always saw it as a combination of him having a good thing going on as the ruler of an entire realm and him being smart enough not to go all in with his chips when Beerus is a factor in the mortal universe.

He was Bobbidi's right hand man and advisor for a reason I think.

[super michael]

I hope we get some form explanation as to why Dabura never crossed over to this part of U7. He would've overthrown Freeza immediately, and
of all the people post-Freeza, he's the only one that was able to show up but it's unclear why he never did. He wasn't imprisoned like Moro or Buu, nor a weakling like Gas or Granola.
Was it because they cannot cross over? or because there was no need due to having such a good thing going on that side? is this realm like hell for people that are alive?

Dabura eventually crossed over with Babidi, perhaps he was able to do that only through magic, or maybe he wasn't that strong without the M.

Maybe Dabura stayed in Demon World, so that is why they crossed path with each other. As for why they never crossed path in Hell, Dabura got sent to Heaven, since he would enjoy Hell too much.

Freeza has no reason to go to the Demon World.

[BootyCheeksJohnson]

There's been speculation that this show takes place before Battle of Gods, hence no Beerus or god transformations in the promotional material. Obviously that's speculation but that would make sense to me. So if you're not a fan of Super Saiyan Blue then this show's for you.

[Hellspawn28]

The Kibitoshin fusion got defuse from the wish, or Toriyama pretend it never happen. He likes to retcon stuff like most western comic book authors do.

[BootyCheeksJohnson]

The Kibitoshin fusion got defuse from the wish, or Toriyama pretend it never happen. He likes to retcon stuff like most western comic book authors do.

As long as Shin didn't pull a "One More Day" to de-fuse he should be fine.

[Hellspawn28]

I have a feeling people will be like "no one ever talked about Daima" afterwards in Super if its set before Super. At this rate, I think its easier to view things in their own continuity bubble than trying to link everything in one timeline.

[JulieYBM]

Yeah, because Daima didn't exist yet. Dropping in breadcrumbs for future stories is not the only valid way of making new stories sit in older points in time.

[MasenkoHA]

I hope Daima trolls the continuity nerds and makes it impossible to figure out if it fits before, during, or after Super

[JulieYBM]

I hope Daima trolls the continuity nerds and makes it impossible to figure out if it fits before, during, or after Super

Dragon Ball Daima hate crimed me and stole my lunch money because I can't tell if Steamed Carrots comes with yellow or blue leafy stuff at the top.

[WittyUsername]

I think trying to make sense of continuity in Dragon Ball has officially been a fool’s errand for the past decade or so. It was easy in the pre-Super era to simply view the manga as its own continuity and the original anime trilogy as another, but things have gotten significantly more complicated ever since we got three different versions of BoG.

[BootyCheeksJohnson]

I think trying to make sense of continuity in Dragon Ball has officially been a fool’s errand for the past decade or so. It was easy in the pre-Super era to simply view the manga as its own continuity and the original anime trilogy as another, but things have gotten significantly more complicated ever since we got three different versions of BoG.

It gets weirder when we remember that Broly never got a manga adaptation, but Super Hero did (still is? I haven't kept up).
At this point everyone should just make up their own rules.

[JulieYBM]

Everything happens where everything happens. Why would—why should—there be silly cross-medium and cross-decade continuity? The first three Dragon Ball series and their films themselves have never tried to maintain a consistent continuity, so why should animated projects made by mostly different staff in different decades in basically different animation industries try to keep continuity with one another?

Everything happens where everything happens.

[BootyCheeksJohnson]

Everything happens where everything happens. Why would—why should—there be silly cross-medium and cross-decade continuity? The first three Dragon Ball series and their films themselves have never tried to maintain a consistent continuity, so why should animated projects made by mostly different staff in different decades in basically different animation industries try to keep continuity with one another?

Everything happens where everything happens.

If you really wanna poke fun at continuity the "10 years of peace" between Boo and Oob is looking pretty silly right now.

[JulieYBM]

Everything happens where everything happens. Why would—why should—there be silly cross-medium and cross-decade continuity? The first three Dragon Ball series and their films themselves have never tried to maintain a consistent continuity, so why should animated projects made by mostly different staff in different decades in basically different animation industries try to keep continuity with one another?

Everything happens where everything happens.

If you really wanna poke fun at continuity the "10 years of peace" between Boo and Oob is looking pretty silly right now.

Well yeah, but also it was dumb to specify that anyway.

Just tell stories that are fun to tell! If ignoring something means you can tell a fun story that you're going to have fun telling, then just do it!

[Mister_Popo]

The promotional material was a bit misleading regarding the power levels. In the first trailers, we saw Goku not using Ki and performing many actions with the pole stick. That's why some people initially thought we would see little to no transformations in the first part of Daima. However, the latest trailer gives a completely different picture. If we're already seeing SSJ1 and SSJ2, I don't expect them to save those transformations for the second part of the series. Still a high chance we might see some special unique transformation (something to with the magic of the Demon Realm?) at the end. Goku and Supreme Kai's opponents in the Demon Realm will likely become stronger quickly. So, I expect that the pole stick will only be used in the first episode(s), with power blasts and transformations following soon after.

Logically, the story might take place right after the Buu arc, but we don't know for sure as there is no official confirmation yet. There's talk of SSJ3 Vegeta (which might present a continuity issue?), and there's also speculation about the defusion of Kibito and Old Kai. Even then, there could be a twist: Kibito could revert to his original form once the spell is undone, and Vegeta might decide not to use SSJ3 anymore because that form is less efficient for him than SSJ2. Whatever happens, they'll find a way to make it fit or simply retcon. But at this point, it's difficult for us to continue speculating without confirmed details. They might also keep us in the dark for a while and then introduce the God forms as a 'surprise.'

I think this trailer gives the best idea of what the animation will look like. It's exactly what Super should have been. The combat is very fluid, with many frames. A lot of work has gone into this, and I suspect that given the long production time, the quality will remain consistent until the end. The 3D animation of Super Hero couldn't convince me that it was the future of Dragon Ball—this is what Dragon Ball should always look like.

[JulieYBM]

The likelihood of this series not involving transformations or ki techniques was always going to be really low. There's definitely going to be more hand-to-hand combat, but I think that that was evident from the beginning when we learned that the series would have a stronger production schedule and more staff to work with. Hand-to-hand combat is a lot more complicated to do right, after all.

[BootyCheeksJohnson]

Everything happens where everything happens. Why would—why should—there be silly cross-medium and cross-decade continuity? The first three Dragon Ball series and their films themselves have never tried to maintain a consistent continuity, so why should animated projects made by mostly different staff in different decades in basically different animation industries try to keep continuity with one another?

Everything happens where everything happens.

If you really wanna poke fun at continuity the "10 years of peace" between Boo and Oob is looking pretty silly right now.

Well yeah, but also it was dumb to specify that anyway.

Just tell stories that are fun to tell! If ignoring something means you can tell a fun story that you're going to have fun telling, then just do it!

I'm just poking fun. The continuity isn't sacred to me. And, you're right that Toriyama never needed to specify that. All that really mattered to the end of the manga was that time had passed, and that Goku was looking for a new hobby, basically.

[JulieYBM]

If you really wanna poke fun at continuity the "10 years of peace" between Boo and Oob is looking pretty silly right now.

Well yeah, but also it was dumb to specify that anyway.

Just tell stories that are fun to tell! If ignoring something means you can tell a fun story that you're going to have fun telling, then just do it!

I'm just poking fun. The continuity isn't sacred to me. And, you're right that Toriyama never needed to specify that. All that really mattered to the end of the manga was that time had passed, and that Goku was looking for a new hobby, basically.

Oh, I'm sorry if that read as me thinking that you were trying to make that point, I understand that you weren't or whatever. I just wanted to make a point based off of that as a springboard.

[BootyCheeksJohnson]

Well yeah, but also it was dumb to specify that anyway.

Just tell stories that are fun to tell! If ignoring something means you can tell a fun story that you're going to have fun telling, then just do it!

I'm just poking fun. The continuity isn't sacred to me. And, you're right that Toriyama never needed to specify that. All that really mattered to the end of the manga was that time had passed, and that Goku was looking for a new hobby, basically.

Oh, I'm sorry if that read as me thinking that you were trying to make that point, I understand that you weren't or whatever. I just wanted to make a point based off of that as a springboard.

It's okay. It's difficult to read emotions over text.

[supershonen]

to me it looks like they realized what a mess DB super has created and are now trying to not touch that stuff at all. They are clicking the undo button furiously, IMO.