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Post by Dbzfan94 » Thu Sep 19, 2024 5:56 pm

The amount of stages (or lack thereof) is a bit of a letdown, but the roster more than makes up for it. theres still a few odd omissions, Shin, Pikkon, and Super 17 especially, but I'm sure theyll be DLC. Shame that original Dragon Ball got shafted, but I'm laughing looking back at the people who were sure we were getting random ToP fodder over the Z movie villains.

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Post by Super Saiyan Zach » Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:56 pm

Does the 182 characters include Goku (Daima)? So it's 181 + Daima? Just wondering. Either way, I am so excited to play!

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Post by Bardock God of Time » Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:59 pm

Super Saiyan Zach wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:56 pm Does the 182 characters include Goku (Daima)? So it's 181 + Daima? Just wondering. Either way, I am so excited to play!
It's 182 + Daima so Daima makes 183

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Post by Scsigs » Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:05 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 5:50 pm And oh god, that OG DB 'roster' is a joke. I get it's very unpopular series compared to even GT, but they should've added King Piccolo at the very least. Showing kid Goku use great ape fist on Piccolo Jr. was sad.
I'd say it's not actually that unpopular. To compare fan reception of OG DB to GT is an insult to it. I'd say GT's still far less popular than it. It's mainly just not in the spotlight, especially as the companies involved mainly focus on Z, Super, & the more recent stuff they've been doing.

As for the roster, yeah, I'm also surprised Super 17 isn't in the base roster considering Baby & Syn/Omega Shenron are. Usually if you have those 2, the game tends to have 17 with them since he's the 3rd main villain of the show. Others I hope they add with DLC would be Ledgic, Rilldo, GT Trunks, GT Goten, as well as give a GT variant to Gohan & Videl.

The fact that they don't have at least King Piccolo in the base roster for OG DB rep as well is odd. A few others that I hope they add with the DLCs are Mercenary Tao, a Jackie Chun variant for Roshi, Nam, a few early-DB variants for Yamcha, maybe kid Krillin, 8er, 23rd World Tournament variants of Goku & Chichi, Devilman, Arale, Grandpa Gohan, Pilaf, Shu, & Mai in their mech suit, Master Shen, & 21st World Tournament variants for Tien & Chaiotzu

And now that I think about it, they could easily add in more Super rep, with a bunch of the secondary characters from the Tournament of Power arc that aren't already in the base roster. They may be planning on this, but I'm actually surprised at some of the characters they left out from that arc. They mainly focused on the highlights & important characters to add in.

Imagine if they were to add in a Battle Royale mode centered around the TOP for online multiplayer at some point. Having more characters would definitely help vary it up over time.
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:24 pm

King Piccolo and S17 should have dropped in. Intreasting when looking at the roster those are the two omissions.

Honestly those two and Oozaru should be patched in imo.

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Post by sunsetshimmer » Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:01 pm

Scsigs wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:05 pm I'd say it's not actually that unpopular. To compare fan reception of OG DB to GT is an insult to it. I'd say GT's still far less popular than it. It's mainly just not in the spotlight, especially as the companies involved mainly focus on Z, Super, & the more recent stuff they've been doing.
Okay let me put it in different way - GT has worse reception from fans. But i believe more people have watched it, more people talk about it (bad or good, no matter), more people want GT characters in games, compared to OG series. That's what i meant by saying OG is less popular. Just like u said - not in spotlight. Nor by companies involved, nor by fans. Considered better, but ignored.
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Post by Super Saiyan Zach » Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:05 pm

Bardock God of Time wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:59 pm
Super Saiyan Zach wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:56 pm Does the 182 characters include Goku (Daima)? So it's 181 + Daima? Just wondering. Either way, I am so excited to play!
It's 182 + Daima so Daima makes 183
But then how come some websites reported 181 characters? Which one are they missing?

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Post by Almighty Majin » Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:09 pm

It's so odd that Goku Black and Jiren are main story perspectives. I wonder how that will pan out? They're stories are relegated to just one arc each. I guess maybe we'll get something crazy like Goku Black in the ToP? Maybe Jiren's story can lead to Jiren vs Broly? With how expansive the story mode what-ifs will be, I wonder if the movie and GT characters will pop up in the story mode branches.

I am fine with the full roster and while I wish the pre-order character was someone else other than Daima Goku, I still look forward to playing as him.

We're still missing many characters:
We'll likely get DLC packs based on the missing characters going by series and maybe they'll sprinkle in some new ones hopefully.

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Post by Rinsankajugin » Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:20 pm

Scsigs wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:05 pm
sunsetshimmer wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 5:50 pm And oh god, that OG DB 'roster' is a joke. I get it's very unpopular series compared to even GT, but they should've added King Piccolo at the very least. Showing kid Goku use great ape fist on Piccolo Jr. was sad.
I'd say it's not actually that unpopular. To compare fan reception of OG DB to GT is an insult to it. I'd say GT's still far less popular than it. It's mainly just not in the spotlight, especially as the companies involved mainly focus on Z, Super, & the more recent stuff they've been doing.
OG isn't unpopular at all, it's aired on TV in plenty of countries, it's mostly just the US that kind of skipped over it, which has unfortunately skewed a lot of western fans minds. Even in the recent Goku Best Bouts poll, Jackie Chun vs Goku was the number 1 voted fight, and this was a world-wide poll. While it is unfortunate that there isn't much OG representation in the base game, I'm pretty sure we're going to get plenty of DLC. Kakarot got OG DLC not too long ago.

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Post by DBFanGuy » Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:46 pm

Man I’m so pumped for this. Wish we got some Jiren gameplay.

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Post by Tian » Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:18 pm

Yuji wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 10:00 am Kid Goku is just snuck in there as an afterthought in-between the two montages and they used regular Piccolo for the opponent. :lol:
This reminds me of when BT2 used the end of Z versions of Goku and Vegeta for the GT saga. :lol:

Although, I was already expecting for the story mode to cover less content than the previous game because it happened with BT3, whose story mode was more "battle ready" and less cinematic than BT2.
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Post by Scsigs » Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:43 am

Turns out, Jackie Chun Roshi exists as a skin for him on the game! That's 1 more OG DB rep checked off the list.
https://x.com/NeoTaku5/status/1836863523630317955

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Also, OG DB Yamcha!
https://x.com/NeoTaku5/status/1836773152598159439
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Post by omegalucas » Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:50 am

sunsetshimmer wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:01 pm
Scsigs wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:05 pm I'd say it's not actually that unpopular. To compare fan reception of OG DB to GT is an insult to it. I'd say GT's still far less popular than it. It's mainly just not in the spotlight, especially as the companies involved mainly focus on Z, Super, & the more recent stuff they've been doing.
Okay let me put it in different way - GT has worse reception from fans. But i believe more people have watched it, more people talk about it (bad or good, no matter), more people want GT characters in games, compared to OG series. That's what i meant by saying OG is less popular. Just like u said - not in spotlight. Nor by companies involved, nor by fans. Considered better, but ignored.
GT might have an iffy reception but has striking character designs which is why people may prefer GT characters over Super characters.

It's also closer to Z in terms of fighting choreography with an emphasis on Ki and flight while the OG is more hand-to-hand grounded fights, a style that usually doesn't lend itself to a Tenkaichi-style gameplay that well.
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Post by GTx10 » Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:58 am

Maybe if enough talk is generated then the devs will add more Og DB characters? In this social media filled world I suppose anything is possible. I have my doubts but I'm hoping Piccolo Jr. at least has a King Piccolo costume...

How are folks getting leaks anyway? Is it a demo or did some people get a super early copy of the game?
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Post by Rinsankajugin » Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:00 am

omegalucas wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:50 am GT might have an iffy reception but has striking character designs which is why people may prefer GT characters over Super characters.

It's also closer to Z in terms of fighting choreography with an emphasis on Ki and flight while the OG is more hand-to-hand grounded fights, a style that usually doesn't lend itself to a Tenkaichi-style gameplay that well.
To be fair, the fact that we actually have the option for grounded combat now (thanks to the tournament mode) might make things feel more smoother for OG characters when they eventually return.

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Post by Jord » Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:00 am

Super 17 is a big omission, especially when you have a ton of ToP jobbers in there. That being said, the roster is incredibly large, which makes me feel that 90% of the characters will play the same, just with some different animations.
To me, this gets boring fast. I'd rather have a more focused roster in which characters feel unique.

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Post by Grimlock » Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:15 am

So both Cabba and Kafla have base, Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 but somehow Caulifla skips over Super Saiyan? Can anyone, in their most sane state, please explain to me the thought process, the logic that went behind this decision?

It is also unfortunate that Dragon Ball Super Trunks only has Super Saiyan, if only his Majin Buu saga had been adapted in a series by now, there would have had a chance for his Super Saiyan 2 form to be playable too...

Anyway, I found a very short Bardock gameplay. His moves are clean and gorgeous as hell. The Final Revenge looking cool like it was in Budokai Tenkaichi 3 and his ultimate move is indeed Final Spirit Cannon. I saw that Dragon Ball Legends named it first, but I was hoping for another name to separate it from the giant ball he throws at Freeza. Guess there are two versions of this technique then. They are really going to make me wait until the game is released to know if he has Super Saiyan, aren't they? Although seeing other characters' forms being announced but not his may not be a good sign... Hopefully Spike doesn't disappoint in that regard.

Poor Goku... :( :lol:

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Post by Rafa Fast » Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:59 am

Very good character roster, though some personal disappointments are expected, months ago I thought that for Original DB they would at least make Kid Goku and Piccolo Daimao, wasn't expecting for Tao Pai Pai or anyone else, but not even Piccolo Daimao made into the game, sad first series representation :(

And the absence of characters like Super 17 smells like lack of time in development to me, and not a decision made in purpose, and I don't really know why they made the Freeza Soldier as part of Super, that bearded guy was in Z, also, why not put Appule? He's the most popular Freeza Soldier I think, unless he's a alternate skin? For Super could've been Shisami or Tagoma.

Anyway, this is still a fantastic work and I hope they had the time to develop all these characters properly, really liked the movie characters, Garlic Jr. and Dr. Wheelo made me smile.

The other game modes seem to be very interesting, though I really don't get the decision of making Jiren and Goku Black for that other story mode, they only appear in one arc, I don't know...

Also, wtf? Where's SSJ Blue Evolution Vegeta? Isn't he in the game's cover art???? I'm confused
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Post by Yuji » Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:03 am

Rafa Fast wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:59 am
Also, wtf? Where's SSJ Blue Evolution Vegeta? Isn't he in the game's cover art???? I'm confused
He's a powerup, like Kaioken.

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Post by Rafa Fast » Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:29 am

Yuji wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:03 am
Rafa Fast wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:59 am
Also, wtf? Where's SSJ Blue Evolution Vegeta? Isn't he in the game's cover art???? I'm confused
He's a powerup, like Kaioken.
I know, I'm talking about the actual transformation/unique character, with different model and everything, as I said, it's literally in the game's cover art, but in the actual game there's literally nothing, just the final explosion
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