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Re: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread

Post by WittyUsername » Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:34 am

I’m guessing the reason Shin isn’t in the base roster is because they plan to save him for a Daima related DLC, but that still doesn’t explain why they couldn’t include Super 17 and Piccolo Daimao. Also, it makes no sense that Caulifla’s Super Saiyan form would randomly get skipped over, while Cabba has both his Super Saiyan forms.

In general, while this game has more characters than BT3, the roster isn’t as complete, which is kind of a disappointment for a Sparking game.
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Post by FiReFTW » Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:49 am

Grimlock wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:15 am Poor Goku... :( :lol:
What website is that? And yeah.. that is indeed sad.

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Post by Koitsukai » Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:25 pm

I’m glad they are being faithful to Golden Freeza’s attacks, unlike XV2 that came up with a fake ass Ultimate that was never seen anywhere. The 10-finger red ki blasts is real and great.
And boy, do I need Black Freeza in this mother. And UE Vegeta. And Granola. And Gas. Fucking manga, being excluded all the time.

I remember Toyo's editor or was it Toyo himself? saying that soon enough we were going to be having the new manga characters in videogames... :evil:

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Post by omegalucas » Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:28 pm

According to IGN's preview, special what-if cutscenes that are triggered by doing certain actions and open alternate routes ("Sparking Episodes") won't be available if you lower the difficulty. That... plainly sucks, honestly. Why would you lock up content based on difficulty, just let people have fun.
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Post by FiReFTW » Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:46 pm

omegalucas wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:28 pm According to IGN's preview, special what-if cutscenes that are triggered by doing certain actions and open alternate routes ("Sparking Episodes") won't be available if you lower the difficulty. That... plainly sucks, honestly. Why would you lock up content based on difficulty, just let people have fun.
If true thats absolutely horrible!!!

Some other things I dislike about tournament mode:

1. You can't pick the CPU opponents its randomly selected... why??? What if I want a tournament specifically with Goku, Krillin, Piccolo, Tien, Roshi, Gohan, Trunks, Vegeta ... for example... well.. I can't... da f*ck??
2. You can't watch CPU matches, they just automatically advance to the next round, what??? Thats crazy.... brah...
3. No unlimited time limit for matches, why???

Some of these decisions are mind boggling. Theres absolutely no reason for them apart from restricting the player for no reason

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Post by Yuji » Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:01 pm

DLC hopes:

Superhero:

1. Gohan
2. Gohan (Super Saiyan)
3. Gohan (Ultimate)
4. Gohan (Beast)
5. Piccolo
6. Piccolo (Ultimate)
7. Piccolo (Orange)
8. Gamma 1
9. Gamma 2
10. Pan
11. Cell Max
12. Teen Goten
13. Teen Trunks
14. Fat Gotenks

Dragon Ball:

1. Piccolo Daimao (old)
2. Piccolo Daimao (young)
3. Grandpa Gohan
4. Tao Pai Pai
5. Cyborg Tao
6. Chi Chi
7. Akkuman
8. Pilaf Mech
9. Arale
10. General Blue
11. Tambourine
12. Android 8
13. Kami/Shen
14. Mr. Popo

GT:

1. Super 17
2. Nuova Shenlong
3. Eis Shenlong
4. Ledgic
5. Luud
6. Rildo
7. Hyper Meta Rildo
8. Meta Rildo
9. Haze Shenlong
10. Rage Shenlong
11. Oceanus Shenlong
12. Naturon Shenlong
13. GT Trunks
14. GT Trunks (Super Saiyan)

Movies:

1. Salza
2. Neiz
3. Dore
4. Android 14
5. Android 15
6. Paragus
7. Zangya
8. Bio Broly
9. Tarble
10. Abo
11. Kado
12. Abokado
13. Lucifer
14. Paikuhan

Super:

1. Shin
2. Kibito
3. Kibitoshin
4. Champa
5. Vados
6. Magetta
7. Botamo
8. Belmod
9. Ganos
10. Maji Kayo
11. Tagoma
12. Basil
13. Basil (steroids)
14. Lavender

Misc:

1. Android 21
2. Android 21 (Majin)
3. Ozotto
4. Shallot
5. Shallot (Super Saiyan God)
6. Towa
7. Mira
8. Demigra
9. Sealas
10. Time Patrol Trunks
11. Time Patrol Trunks (Super Saiyan)
12. Chronoa
13. Bonyu
14. Fu

Missing Forms (free DLC?):

1. GT Vegeta
2. GT Vegeta (Super Saiyan)
3. Broly (Super) (base)
4. Garlick Jr
5. Caulifla (Super Saiyan)
6. Goku Z Mid (Super Saiyan Grade 2)
7. Goku Z Mid (Super Saiyan Grade 3)
8. Future Trunks (Super) (Super Saiyan 2)
9. Frost (1st form)
10. Frost (assault form)
11. Teen Goku (Oozaru)

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Post by Rinsankajugin » Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:14 pm

FiReFTW wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:46 pm Some other things I dislike about tournament mode:

1. You can't pick the CPU opponents its randomly selected... why??? What if I want a tournament specifically with Goku, Krillin, Piccolo, Tien, Roshi, Gohan, Trunks, Vegeta ... for example... well.. I can't... da f*ck??
2. You can't watch CPU matches, they just automatically advance to the next round, what??? Thats crazy.... brah...
3. No unlimited time limit for matches, why???

Some of these decisions are mind boggling. Theres absolutely no reason for them apart from restricting the player for no reason
I'm pretty sure that's how single-player tournament mode worked in older games, so it's not really surprise.

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Post by FiReFTW » Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:55 pm

Rinsankajugin wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:14 pm
FiReFTW wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:46 pm Some other things I dislike about tournament mode:

1. You can't pick the CPU opponents its randomly selected... why??? What if I want a tournament specifically with Goku, Krillin, Piccolo, Tien, Roshi, Gohan, Trunks, Vegeta ... for example... well.. I can't... da f*ck??
2. You can't watch CPU matches, they just automatically advance to the next round, what??? Thats crazy.... brah...
3. No unlimited time limit for matches, why???

Some of these decisions are mind boggling. Theres absolutely no reason for them apart from restricting the player for no reason
I'm pretty sure that's how single-player tournament mode worked in older games, so it's not really surprise.
It did but why not improve it?

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Post by Yuji » Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:57 pm

Disappointed we won't be able to equip UI Goku with the Whis Gi.

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Post by Grimlock » Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:03 pm

Vegeta looks cool as Super Saiyan God wearing his Movie 15 outfit. All the more reason they should have stayed with those clothes... But of course they wouldn't. :roll:

Why so many Ultra Instincts and Gogetas videos? I'd very much like to see some other characters.
FiReFTW wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:49 amWhat website is that? And yeah.. that is indeed sad.
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Post by MisteryOne » Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:21 pm

Very late to the party, but it's amazing how a game that it's basically Tenkaichi 3 but better has managed to somehow disappoint me. There are so many weird roster decisions and I still don't get why Super Hero is not on the base game.

On the flip side, at least I no longer feel bad about not having a PS5...
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Post by FiReFTW » Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:40 pm

These are the number of characters in game filtered by which Dragonball/series:

DBZ : 93
Super : 46
Movies : 26
GT : 15
OG DB : 1


Movies = Almost perfect (Maybe garlic jr. normal missing, but very few others)
DBZ = Awesome (Covers pretty much almost everything apart from very few like Shin, Pikkon..)
Super = Decent (Very big roster, lots represented, but there is a chunk of characters that could still be added)
GT = Decent (Most main characters represented, but chunk of them missing and could be added)
OG = Trash roster, why even bother adding Goku "Teen" at this point its just an insult, and he doesn't even have the right outfit from OG DB

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Post by Koitsukai » Fri Sep 20, 2024 4:16 pm

Season Pass (DLC 1, 2 and 3) will include +20 characters. So around 7 characters per DLC.

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Post by Tian » Fri Sep 20, 2024 4:21 pm

Koitsukai wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 4:16 pm Season Pass (DLC 1, 2 and 3) will include +20 characters. So around 7 characters per DLC.
Nice. I hope we get iconic and important characters like Farmer With Shotgun, Freeza Soldier #2749 and Yardrat Alien.
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Post by sunsetshimmer » Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:51 pm

Rafa Fast wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:29 am I know, I'm talking about the actual transformation/unique character, with different model and everything, as I said, it's literally in the game's cover art, but in the actual game there's literally nothing, just the final explosion
If you ask me, adult Goku and adult Vegeta (except Scouter and Majin) should be single characters with all the forms. I never liked that "Goku (Mid)" bullshit. And we add Super versions for no reason. GT Goku obviously has to be different character and even hypothetical GT Vegeta. But i see no reason to have 4 "base adult Goku in orange gi" characters.

But it seems they are limiting every character to have 4 forms at once maximum, including base. I say at once, cause Z Frieza has 5, but he can only transform one by one. Which is why Super versions of Goku and Vegeta have base, SSJ, God, Blue. And it's also why UI Sign Goku is separate character that turns into UI. Well, thank god UI Goku doesn't have base form at least :lol: So if they added Blue Evolution as separate form, he would have to be separate character which would be kinda dumb and since this form is not really important (and is anime only) they decided to not give it actual character slot i suppose.

I hate a fact we have Super version of Frieza as separate character. That's a waste of slot. If the really didn't want to give Golden form to Z Frieza why on earth not just create Golden Frieza character and call it a day? Like Mecha Frieza is different character, or Majin Vegeta.

Also, why the hell Super Perfect Cell or whatever you'll call it is separate character? I mean having two versions of Perfect Cell was always unnecesary choice for me. But if you keep him why separate him? In BT3 you could transform into all forms.
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Post by Bardock God of Time » Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:26 pm

Tian wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 4:21 pm
Koitsukai wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 4:16 pm Season Pass (DLC 1, 2 and 3) will include +20 characters. So around 7 characters per DLC.
Nice. I hope we get iconic and important characters like Farmer With Shotgun, Freeza Soldier #2749 and Yardrat Alien.
It would be kinda cool if we ended up getting this guy:

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Post by Kaywayk » Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:32 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:51 pm
Rafa Fast wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:29 am I know, I'm talking about the actual transformation/unique character, with different model and everything, as I said, it's literally in the game's cover art, but in the actual game there's literally nothing, just the final explosion
If you ask me, adult Goku and adult Vegeta (except Scouter and Majin) should be single characters with all the forms. I never liked that "Goku (Mid)" bullshit. And we add Super versions for no reason. GT Goku obviously has to be different character and even hypothetical GT Vegeta. But i see no reason to have 4 "base adult Goku in orange gi" characters.

But it seems they are limiting every character to have 4 forms at once maximum, including base. I say at once, cause Z Frieza has 5, but he can only transform one by one. Which is why Super versions of Goku and Vegeta have base, SSJ, God, Blue. And it's also why UI Sign Goku is separate character that turns into UI. Well, thank god UI Goku doesn't have base form at least :lol: So if they added Blue Evolution as separate form, he would have to be separate character which would be kinda dumb and since this form is not really important (and is anime only) they decided to not give it actual character slot i suppose.

I hate a fact we have Super version of Frieza as separate character. That's a waste of slot. If the really didn't want to give Golden form to Z Frieza why on earth not just create Golden Frieza character and call it a day? Like Mecha Frieza is different character, or Majin Vegeta.

Also, why the hell Super Perfect Cell or whatever you'll call it is separate character? I mean having two versions of Perfect Cell was always unnecesary choice for me. But if you keep him why separate him? In BT3 you could transform into all forms.
I always felt like the Tenkaichi series desperately needed some kind of moveset customization like the budokai games had. Not only did it solve the problem of needing 4 different versions of the same character, it also gave us some really cool stuff like seeing Majin Vegeta in his Saiyan arc armour.

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Post by nato25 » Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:49 pm

Yuji wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:01 pm DLC hopes:

Superhero:

1. Gohan
2. Gohan (Super Saiyan)
3. Gohan (Ultimate)
4. Gohan (Beast)
5. Piccolo
6. Piccolo (Ultimate)
7. Piccolo (Orange)
8. Gamma 1
9. Gamma 2
10. Pan
11. Cell Max
12. Teen Goten
13. Teen Trunks
14. Fat Gotenks

Dragon Ball:

1. Piccolo Daimao (old)
2. Piccolo Daimao (young)
3. Grandpa Gohan
4. Tao Pai Pai
5. Cyborg Tao
6. Chi Chi
7. Akkuman
8. Pilaf Mech
9. Arale
10. General Blue
11. Tambourine
12. Android 8
13. Kami/Shen
14. Mr. Popo

GT:

1. Super 17
2. Nuova Shenlong
3. Eis Shenlong
4. Ledgic
5. Luud
6. Rildo
7. Hyper Meta Rildo
8. Meta Rildo
9. Haze Shenlong
10. Rage Shenlong
11. Oceanus Shenlong
12. Naturon Shenlong
13. GT Trunks
14. GT Trunks (Super Saiyan)

Movies:

1. Salza
2. Neiz
3. Dore
4. Android 14
5. Android 15
6. Paragus
7. Zangya
8. Bio Broly
9. Tarble
10. Abo
11. Kado
12. Abokado
13. Lucifer
14. Paikuhan

Super:

1. Shin
2. Kibito
3. Kibitoshin
4. Champa
5. Vados
6. Magetta
7. Botamo
8. Belmod
9. Ganos
10. Maji Kayo
11. Tagoma
12. Basil
13. Basil (steroids)
14. Lavender

Misc:

1. Android 21
2. Android 21 (Majin)
3. Ozotto
4. Shallot
5. Shallot (Super Saiyan God)
6. Towa
7. Mira
8. Demigra
9. Sealas
10. Time Patrol Trunks
11. Time Patrol Trunks (Super Saiyan)
12. Chronoa
13. Bonyu
14. Fu

Missing Forms (free DLC?):

1. GT Vegeta
2. GT Vegeta (Super Saiyan)
3. Broly (Super) (base)
4. Garlick Jr
5. Caulifla (Super Saiyan)
6. Goku Z Mid (Super Saiyan Grade 2)
7. Goku Z Mid (Super Saiyan Grade 3)
8. Future Trunks (Super) (Super Saiyan 2)
9. Frost (1st form)
10. Frost (assault form)
11. Teen Goku (Oozaru)
Wow we really are far from a complete roster still lol

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Post by WittyUsername » Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:06 pm

Kaywayk wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:32 pm
sunsetshimmer wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:51 pm
Rafa Fast wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:29 am I know, I'm talking about the actual transformation/unique character, with different model and everything, as I said, it's literally in the game's cover art, but in the actual game there's literally nothing, just the final explosion
If you ask me, adult Goku and adult Vegeta (except Scouter and Majin) should be single characters with all the forms. I never liked that "Goku (Mid)" bullshit. And we add Super versions for no reason. GT Goku obviously has to be different character and even hypothetical GT Vegeta. But i see no reason to have 4 "base adult Goku in orange gi" characters.

But it seems they are limiting every character to have 4 forms at once maximum, including base. I say at once, cause Z Frieza has 5, but he can only transform one by one. Which is why Super versions of Goku and Vegeta have base, SSJ, God, Blue. And it's also why UI Sign Goku is separate character that turns into UI. Well, thank god UI Goku doesn't have base form at least :lol: So if they added Blue Evolution as separate form, he would have to be separate character which would be kinda dumb and since this form is not really important (and is anime only) they decided to not give it actual character slot i suppose.

I hate a fact we have Super version of Frieza as separate character. That's a waste of slot. If the really didn't want to give Golden form to Z Frieza why on earth not just create Golden Frieza character and call it a day? Like Mecha Frieza is different character, or Majin Vegeta.

Also, why the hell Super Perfect Cell or whatever you'll call it is separate character? I mean having two versions of Perfect Cell was always unnecesary choice for me. But if you keep him why separate him? In BT3 you could transform into all forms.
I always felt like the Tenkaichi series desperately needed some kind of moveset customization like the budokai games had. Not only did it solve the problem of needing 4 different versions of the same character, it also gave us some really cool stuff like seeing Majin Vegeta in his Saiyan arc armour.
That’s what the Raging Blast games did, but they never managed to catch on like the Tenkaichi series.

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Post by MisteryOne » Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:30 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:51 pm
Rafa Fast wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:29 am I know, I'm talking about the actual transformation/unique character, with different model and everything, as I said, it's literally in the game's cover art, but in the actual game there's literally nothing, just the final explosion
If you ask me, adult Goku and adult Vegeta (except Scouter and Majin) should be single characters with all the forms. I never liked that "Goku (Mid)" bullshit. And we add Super versions for no reason. GT Goku obviously has to be different character and even hypothetical GT Vegeta. But i see no reason to have 4 "base adult Goku in orange gi" characters.

But it seems they are limiting every character to have 4 forms at once maximum, including base. I say at once, cause Z Frieza has 5, but he can only transform one by one. Which is why Super versions of Goku and Vegeta have base, SSJ, God, Blue. And it's also why UI Sign Goku is separate character that turns into UI. Well, thank god UI Goku doesn't have base form at least :lol: So if they added Blue Evolution as separate form, he would have to be separate character which would be kinda dumb and since this form is not really important (and is anime only) they decided to not give it actual character slot i suppose.

I hate a fact we have Super version of Frieza as separate character. That's a waste of slot. If the really didn't want to give Golden form to Z Frieza why on earth not just create Golden Frieza character and call it a day? Like Mecha Frieza is different character, or Majin Vegeta.

Also, why the hell Super Perfect Cell or whatever you'll call it is separate character? I mean having two versions of Perfect Cell was always unnecesary choice for me. But if you keep him why separate him? In BT3 you could transform into all forms.
Most of those weird decisions are pretty much excuses to inflate the rosterand be failhtfull to Tenkaichi 3. And hey, it's working on moat fans who are hyped up about thr number of characters.
Meanwhile, DBS Trunks doesn't have Rage...or SS2..Just a weird mix of the three forms.
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