Is now the right time for a Dragon Ball Remake?

[tonysoprano300]

Personally Id love to see it, I guess in general I just feel like the original Dragon Ball kind of gets shafted in comparison to some of the later works. Even If you look at the games almost all of them decide to skip the early DB material.

So i guess the question is whether Toei has an appetite for it, the fact that we got a remaster of Z and nothing for DB has always kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

[JulieYBM]

A remake doesn't even need to drag its feet getting to the Saiyan arc and later on, so I don't see why we would need to fear "They're going to ignore the first half again!" or whatever. Even if a new animated retelling that told every story arc of the original 1984 comic series was produced it could cover arcs relatively quickly.

Assuming each episode is half and hour long, you could do the arcs very quickly because of how short they tend to be.

Hunt for the Dragon Balls: 6 episodes
Twenty-First Tenka-ichi Budoukai: 7 episodes
Red Ribbon Army: 11-13 episodes, depending on whether or not you wanted to alter the plot. Personally, I'd shorten some stuff to make the arc 8-9 episodes by re-writing the plot and removing more boring characters, like General White.
Uranai Baba: 4 episodes
Twenty-Second Tenka-ichi Budoukai: 5 episodes, maybe even 4 if you skip the Panputto bullshit
Piccolo Daimaou: 8 episodes
Twenty-Third Tenka-ichi Budoukai: 6-8 episodes

I do think that the story ought to just be played with the reduce the episode count and be more refined, though. There's really no point in just trying to animate every single panel as-is when you could make something better.

[Skar]

Sailor Moon Crystal comes to mind. But that one was because the 90s anime diverged so much from the manga after about halfway into the first arc. Dragon Ball's anime is a lot more of a rote adaptation

There's also the 97 Slump series which I assumed was a remake/update of the 80s anime?

What was the difference between the two Dr Slump animes? Was there anything left out of the manga in the original adaptation or was it just a retelling with new animation? I suppose it's possible to do that with DB if Toei has done that before for a different series.

[JulieYBM]

Sailor Moon Crystal comes to mind. But that one was because the 90s anime diverged so much from the manga after about halfway into the first arc. Dragon Ball's anime is a lot more of a rote adaptation

There's also the 97 Slump series which I assumed was a remake/update of the 80s anime?

What was the difference between the two Dr Slump animes? Was there anything left out of the manga in the original adaptation or was it just a retelling with new animation? I suppose it's possible to do that with DB if Toei has done that before for a different series.

The 1990s anime is series directed by Yama-uchi Shigeyasu—one of the most influential directors not just on Dragon Ball Z and it's films, but at Toei Animation in general. While Dragon Ball (1986) inherited the staff of Dr. Slump: Arale-chan, the 1990s Dr. Slump inherited the staff of Dragon Ball GT. You could say that it's a bit of a full-circle moment. The 1990s anime was shorter, of course, but the original anime adapted the entire comic, so I think the 1990s anime was chosen to be produced simply for the sake of "We need a new Toriyama anime in our timeslot! Let's go back to Dr. Slump!"

I assume that Toei Animation was trying to recreate the success of remaking GeGeGe no Kitarou once a decade.

[TechExpert2021]

Sailor Moon Crystal comes to mind. But that one was because the 90s anime diverged so much from the manga after about halfway into the first arc. Dragon Ball's anime is a lot more of a rote adaptation

There's also the 97 Slump series which I assumed was a remake/update of the 80s anime?

What was the difference between the two Dr Slump animes? Was there anything left out of the manga in the original adaptation or was it just a retelling with new animation? I suppose it's possible to do that with DB if Toei has done that before for a different series.

The 1990s anime is series directed by Yama-uchi Shigeyasu—one of the most influential directors not just on Dragon Ball Z and it's films, but at Toei Animation in general. While Dragon Ball (1986) inherited the staff of Dr. Slump: Arale-chan, the 1990s Dr. Slump inherited the staff of Dragon Ball GT. You could say that it's a bit of a full-circle moment. The 1990s anime was shorter, of course, but the original anime adapted the entire comic, so I think the 1990s anime was chosen to be produced simply for the sake of "We need a new Toriyama anime in our timeslot! Let's go back to Dr. Slump!"

I assume that Toei Animation was trying to recreate the success of remaking GeGeGe no Kitarou once a decade.

In comparison to the original Dr. Slump anime, does the 1997 remake/reboot retain most of the same inappropriate material of the original anime (like innocent nudity, perverted jokes, dirty magazines), or are they're entirely removed altogether? Because I thought that Japanese broadcast standards were slowly becoming strict since DBZ aired in 1989 and have become strict since the early 2000s.

[tonysoprano300]

A remake doesn't even need to drag its feet getting to the Saiyan arc and later on, so I don't see why we would need to fear "They're going to ignore the first half again!" or whatever. Even if a new animated retelling that told every story arc of the original 1984 comic series was produced it could cover arcs relatively quickly.

Assuming each episode is half and hour long, you could do the arcs very quickly because of how short they tend to be.

Hunt for the Dragon Balls: 6 episodes
Twenty-First Tenka-ichi Budoukai: 7 episodes
Red Ribbon Army: 11-13 episodes, depending on whether or not you wanted to alter the plot. Personally, I'd shorten some stuff to make the arc 8-9 episodes by re-writing the plot and removing more boring characters, like General White.
Uranai Baba: 4 episodes
Twenty-Second Tenka-ichi Budoukai: 5 episodes, maybe even 4 if you skip the Panputto bullshit
Piccolo Daimaou: 8 episodes
Twenty-Third Tenka-ichi Budoukai: 6-8 episodes

I do think that the story ought to just be played with the reduce the episode count and be more refined, though. There's really no point in just trying to animate every single panel as-is when you could make something better.

I think you could cut stuff in some areas an dadd stuff in others. I would appreciate them expanding on certain things. If its a half-hour an episode then that changes the calculus dramatically for sure. Are we talking about remastering all of DB including the "Z" portion?

[JulieYBM]

A remake doesn't even need to drag its feet getting to the Saiyan arc and later on, so I don't see why we would need to fear "They're going to ignore the first half again!" or whatever. Even if a new animated retelling that told every story arc of the original 1984 comic series was produced it could cover arcs relatively quickly.

Assuming each episode is half and hour long, you could do the arcs very quickly because of how short they tend to be.

Hunt for the Dragon Balls: 6 episodes
Twenty-First Tenka-ichi Budoukai: 7 episodes
Red Ribbon Army: 11-13 episodes, depending on whether or not you wanted to alter the plot. Personally, I'd shorten some stuff to make the arc 8-9 episodes by re-writing the plot and removing more boring characters, like General White.
Uranai Baba: 4 episodes
Twenty-Second Tenka-ichi Budoukai: 5 episodes, maybe even 4 if you skip the Panputto bullshit
Piccolo Daimaou: 8 episodes
Twenty-Third Tenka-ichi Budoukai: 6-8 episodes

I do think that the story ought to just be played with the reduce the episode count and be more refined, though. There's really no point in just trying to animate every single panel as-is when you could make something better.

I think you could cut stuff in some areas an dadd stuff in others. I would appreciate them expanding on certain things. If its a half-hour an episode then that changes the calculus dramatically for sure. Are we talking about remastering all of DB including the "Z" portion?

That was a quick and dirty post, but I would definitely assume adapting all story arcs (Hunt through Majin Buu) of the original 1984 comic into a single animated television series would be more than doable and plausible. I've thought it about it a lot over the years, but now I'm kind of curious about creating a story outline that can accomplish this in more depth than my previous post where I just assumed "adapt 4-5 chapters an episode" as a format.

I imagine that this would definitely be produced as a weekly, half-hour anime along the lines of Dragon Quest: Dai no Dai-Bouken (2020), though. Personally, if I had the power I would do it a series free from the constraints of a strict 23-minute runtime, but I can absolutely whip up a proposal for acommplishing such an adaption as traditional 'half-hour episodes' lol.

I definitely agree about expanding on some stuff, though. Like, I'd honestly want to change Gokuu's personality a bit to make him more of a well-rounded character, but that gets really into the weeds on writing and such, which people probably wouldn't want to read here anyway.

[tonysoprano300]

A remake doesn't even need to drag its feet getting to the Saiyan arc and later on, so I don't see why we would need to fear "They're going to ignore the first half again!" or whatever. Even if a new animated retelling that told every story arc of the original 1984 comic series was produced it could cover arcs relatively quickly.

Assuming each episode is half and hour long, you could do the arcs very quickly because of how short they tend to be.

Hunt for the Dragon Balls: 6 episodes
Twenty-First Tenka-ichi Budoukai: 7 episodes
Red Ribbon Army: 11-13 episodes, depending on whether or not you wanted to alter the plot. Personally, I'd shorten some stuff to make the arc 8-9 episodes by re-writing the plot and removing more boring characters, like General White.
Uranai Baba: 4 episodes
Twenty-Second Tenka-ichi Budoukai: 5 episodes, maybe even 4 if you skip the Panputto bullshit
Piccolo Daimaou: 8 episodes
Twenty-Third Tenka-ichi Budoukai: 6-8 episodes

I do think that the story ought to just be played with the reduce the episode count and be more refined, though. There's really no point in just trying to animate every single panel as-is when you could make something better.

I think you could cut stuff in some areas an dadd stuff in others. I would appreciate them expanding on certain things. If its a half-hour an episode then that changes the calculus dramatically for sure. Are we talking about remastering all of DB including the "Z" portion?

I definitely agree about expanding on some stuff, though. Like, I'd honestly want to change Gokuu's personality a bit to make him more of a well-rounded character, but that gets really into the weeds on writing and such, which people probably wouldn't want to read here anyway.

I would lol, Certainly to at least make him more consistent across the series. But I'm guessing majority of the fandom would not be happy about it, my hope is that if Daima proves to be extremely well received and successful then it may empower Toei to reevaluate some things at least.

[Hellspawn28]

I would like a remake in a decade now for the 50th anniversary. Not right now.

[GokuHater]

I think you could cut stuff in some areas an dadd stuff in others. I would appreciate them expanding on certain things. If its a half-hour an episode then that changes the calculus dramatically for sure. Are we talking about remastering all of DB including the "Z" portion?

I definitely agree about expanding on some stuff, though. Like, I'd honestly want to change Gokuu's personality a bit to make him more of a well-rounded character, but that gets really into the weeds on writing and such, which people probably wouldn't want to read here anyway.

I would lol, Certainly to at least make him more consistent across the series. But I'm guessing majority of the fandom would not be happy about it, my hope is that if Daima proves to be extremely well received and successful then it may empower Toei to reevaluate some things at least.

Noooo
The only thing Toei would do with that is make Goku more similar to his portrayal in Super.
To which I can say no, thanks!

[JulieYBM]

I would lol, Certainly to at least make him more consistent across the series. But I'm guessing majority of the fandom would not be happy about it, my hope is that if Daima proves to be extremely well received and successful then it may empower Toei to reevaluate some things at least.

Okay, so, I took this post a little literally and toyed around with a few idea before my ADHD kicked in and I got distracted by something else lol.

Noooo
The only thing Toei would do with that is make Goku more similar to his portrayal in Super.
To which I can say no, thanks!

In this hypothetical situation there would be no Toriyama or producer encouraging the freelance writers that Toei Animation hires to write their cartoons to create a flanderized and overly flawed portrayal of Son Gokuu.

[Peach]

I could go for a GT Remake. Just cut out the fluff, change things, and fit it into the Dragon Ball Super continuity like Broly. Maybe do it as a 3 or 4 part film series.

I could also go for a Path of Power style movie remake of the Saiyan saga for Dragon Ball Z. A few movies that condense the story of Z down would be incredible. The whole Z series could be done in 3 films.

If an American comic studio like IDW ever got the rights to Dragon Ball, I'd love an American comic reboot too.

[TechExpert2021]

If an American comic studio like IDW ever got the rights to Dragon Ball, I'd love an American comic reboot too.

I would love it as long as it remains faithful to the original Japanese manga and isn't based on FUNimation's dubs of OG DB and DBZ. It won't likely happen, though.

[tonysoprano300]

I would lol, Certainly to at least make him more consistent across the series. But I'm guessing majority of the fandom would not be happy about it, my hope is that if Daima proves to be extremely well received and successful then it may empower Toei to reevaluate some things at least.

Okay, so, I took this post a little literally and toyed around with a few idea before my ADHD kicked in and I got distracted by something else lol.

Noooo
The only thing Toei would do with that is make Goku more similar to his portrayal in Super.
To which I can say no, thanks!

In this hypothetical situation there would be no Toriyama or producer encouraging the freelance writers that Toei Animation hires to write their cartoons to create a flanderized and overly flawed portrayal of Son Gokuu.

Lol wow, was not expecting that but certainly happy to read it when I get a chance.

[Saiya6Cit]

My definite answer is: Sure, why not.

I have said this many times... it would be nice to have a clean version of OG DB. And I am not talking about nudity nor violence. I mean what I call the "Roshi parts". It is a bit hard to explain to a young child why Roshi has a box of those magazines and why Krillin offered some in exchage of training in adition to the maid costumes for Krillin and Goku. I am not against it, for a 16 year old plus person, I respect the original job from Toriyama-san and his peculiar humor, but I would love to be able to share DB with my young relatives, without being critized or interrogated by their parents
DBZ is fine, DBGT has some questionable parts as well...

Children can watch Disney cartoons... they should be able to watch DB as well. Then, then should get a release of uncesored DB for us, the adults, the original fans. Also the manga should be available uncensored, for people over 18.

A remake without the previously mentioned parts would be something I would totally support. I am supporting Daima. I want for Dragon Ball to transcend many generations to come. Sheng Long, grant my wish.


PS. Apologies to the ones who get headaches by the way I spell DB character names. I watched DB in mexican dub. Same goes for my misspelling, English is not my native language.

[FortuneSSJ]

From Daima episode 1: