Brian Drummond Saban-era Vegeta

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:03 pm

bkev wrote: I like Sabat's "The Saiyan Prince will not fall again!", but the "I did it on a lie" line belongs to Drummond. Easy.

I think it's one of Sabat's better moments, but it falls short of Drummond in the delivery "The Saiyan prince will not fall again!...YAAAAH!" kinda sounded weird to me.

I really, really want a copy of this dub, too bad the only option would be to download it.

is it just me, or in that one scene did the Megaman music sound better than Faulconer's score?

Anyway, even though I only heard it for the first time today that "I did it on a lie" line by Drummond is now one of my favorites.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:05 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:This video sort of explains my point
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xz9s0hqo0 ... re=related

The only thing I got out of that was an odd fusion of Goku's and the strange notion that I could actually tolerate Ocean's Stage 2 Cell.

THis isn't Saban era, but http://youtube.com/watch?v=UtfzsOYuZOE
Y'know how Rocketman talking about Sabat's more Horikawa-esqu delivery for over 9000, whereas Drummond was hamming it up? THis is an example of the reverse. Sabat was adding extra exclamation points to almost every line, and Drummond played this smooth. Too bad 19 sucks so royally here (not that I'm a huge fan of the old busted radio effect he got with FUNi either).

As for Ocean era- am I the only one who liekd it when he ripped on Gurd?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GxsiDXaHAHc at 0:34.
And here does it again http://youtube.com/watch?v=gf74wu1Dfik&feature=related at 4:13. Man so many memories. McNeil's "Jeice," the edit for "Guldo's" death, and "FEEL THE FORCE OF GINYU!!"

djkalteraphine wrote:Check this out, folks:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XGPEZ0DGhSU
It's not Saban-era, so it's a tad off topic, but Drummond is a beast in this scene.

Heh, I read that chapter of the manga not too long ago. I love that part where Vegeta's all pissed about his fight with Goku.
"Super Saiyan 3!? You disgust me!"

I actually do think Sabat's delivery of "The Saiyan Prince will not fall again" was pretty good, but his yell after kinda took away from it. Drummond gets my point there.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:19 pm

Onikage725 wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:This video sort of explains my point
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xz9s0hqo0 ... re=related
The only thing I got out of that was an odd fusion of Goku's and the strange notion that I could actually tolerate Ocean's Stage 2 Cell.

THis isn't Saban era, but http://youtube.com/watch?v=UtfzsOYuZOE
Y'know how Rocketman talking about Sabat's more Horikawa-esqu delivery for over 9000, whereas Drummond was hamming it up? THis is an example of the reverse. Sabat was adding extra exclamation points to almost every line, and Drummond played this smooth. Too bad 19 sucks so royally here (not that I'm a huge fan of the old busted radio effect he got with FUNi either).

As for Ocean era- am I the only one who liekd it when he ripped on Gurd?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GxsiDXaHAHc at 0:34.
And here does it again http://youtube.com/watch?v=gf74wu1Dfik&feature=related at 4:13. Man so many memories. McNeil's "Jeice," the edit for "Guldo's" death, and "FEEL THE FORCE OF GINYU!!"

djkalteraphine wrote:Check this out, folks:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XGPEZ0DGhSU
It's not Saban-era, so it's a tad off topic, but Drummond is a beast in this scene.
Heh, I read that chapter of the manga not too long ago. I love that part where Vegeta's all pissed about his fight with Goku.
"Super Saiyan 3!? You disgust me!"

I actually do think Sabat's delivery of "The Saiyan Prince will not fall again" was pretty good, but his yell after kinda took away from it. Drummond gets my point there.

It's really badly edited when Guldo gets decapitated, the place where they put his head back on is all wavy and it just looks wrong.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:26 pm

Oh it's so obvious! That big shadow that ought to be his neck, for instance.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:29 pm

Onikage725 wrote:Oh it's so obvious! That big shadow that ought to be his neck, for instance.

Also, I'm not sure if he does in the uncut version as well, but Guldo screams when Vegeta blasts him "into the next dimension

" even though he should have no head to scream from.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:51 pm

He blew up his head in the uncut version and in the filler scenes, his headless corpse is still on the ground. And I just checked, in both the redub and Japanese, he does not scream as he is blown up. Though the dub makes a "Bwah?" sound before the blast is fired, where in Japanese his mouth moves but no sound utters.

Also looking at that old clip, anyone else have the image of Recoome saying, "Recoome, TERRORIZE!" in their heads now?

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:56 pm

Onikage725 wrote:THis isn't Saban era, but http://youtube.com/watch?v=UtfzsOYuZOE
Y'know how Rocketman talking about Sabat's more Horikawa-esqu delivery for over 9000, whereas Drummond was hamming it up?

I was actually referring to the line in the manga. I dunno what the scene sounds like in the JPN version.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:53 am

Super Sonic wrote: Also looking at that old clip, anyone else have the image of Recoome saying, "Recoome, TERRORIZE!" in their heads now?

Oh shit! I completely forgot he was David Kaye! I was too busy listening to Jeice and hearing Rattrap with an Aussie accent.

Rocketman wrote: I was actually referring to the line in the manga. I dunno what the scene sounds like in the JPN version.

Ah. Well, he was pissed, but he didn't shout it at the top of his lungs.

EDIT: Found a clip, if you want to see http://youtube.com/watch?v=1ZHU-ZAcu78

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:04 am

Onikage725 wrote:
Super Sonic wrote: Also looking at that old clip, anyone else have the image of Recoome saying, "Recoome, TERRORIZE!" in their heads now?
Oh shit! I completely forgot he was David Kaye! I was too busy listening to Jeice and hearing Rattrap with an Aussie accent.
Ah. Well, he was pissed, but he didn't shout it at the top of his lungs.

Holy crap!, I never made that connection, and I'm a huge David Kaye fan (his Megatron is second only to Frank Welker)

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:04 am

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:01 pm

... Recoom was voiced by the guy who did Megs? Holy shit man. The more Beast Wars comparisons I hear to the old dub, the more it makes me love them. I always knew it was Ocean for both, but somehow I didn't click in who all the side characters were. Though, I probably would have been happier not realizing that was Airrazor coming out of Freezer. DBZ is my greatest love, but Beast Wars is definitely second right after it.

These old Ocean clips are such a nostalgia trip, it's awesome. I really, really need to find out where I can acquire the UK dub after Ocean was dropped here, just for Scott and Brian and other little people I remember from so much of my childhood.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:20 am

I think David Kaye could have done a great Freeza, He's got a great vocal range, and it would have been neat to see his take on the "sophisticated" and haughty side to Freeza.

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:22 am

...... I can't believe I never thought of that before. He would have been amazing.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:23 am

I really want to grab some audio from my Beast Wars dvd and put it up with some video of Freeza.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:18 pm

djkalteraphine wrote:Check this out, folks:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XGPEZ0DGhSU
It's not Saban-era, so it's a tad off topic, but Drummond is a beast in this scene.

That is definitely the best Buu saga Brian Drummond Vegeta I have seen and I am a huge defender of Sabat. But Chris just didn't have it in this scene. I think it might actually be better than Funi's dub, even the music is slightly better, which is weird because normally the music is HORRID. Also Kirby Marrow's Goku isn't bad either, normally it's too "generic hero type".

Also I hate how Toei completely forgot about SSJ2, this fight is entirely filler, yet neither Vegeta nor Goku go SSJ2. There is no way they could have fought Super Buu as Regular SSJ's.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:32 pm

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:05 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:
djkalteraphine wrote:Check this out, folks:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XGPEZ0DGhSU
It's not Saban-era, so it's a tad off topic, but Drummond is a beast in this scene.
Holy shit! I've always liked Drummond for the most part, but that was easily some of his best Vegeta delivery ever!

I've never really heard Kirby Marrow's Goku before... but if this scene's anything to go on, he's worlds better than Schemmel (who tries WAY too hard normally, and more times than not falls in lockstep with the FUNi dub mold of everybody having forced, unnatural "cartoon character" voices).

Stick the Japanese BGM over that generic shit they replaced it with, and this is perfectly listenable. Replace the FUNi script with an actual translation of the Japanese dialogue, and you got yourself a genuinely well made DBZ dub.

I actually like Schemmel, his SSJ3 transformation scene is one of my favorites, but my all time favorite Goku is and always will be Ian Corlett, he even says kaioken right.

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:08 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:
bkev wrote:
mAcChaos wrote:I actually like Sabat more in this one. He manages to convey the hurt better, I think.
Anyone got a clip of the FUNi version?
edit - found one. http://youtube.com/watch?v=6ItdUd4webY . I like Sabat's "The Saiyan Prince will not fall again!", but the "I did it on a lie" line belongs to Drummond. Easy.
Agreed, Sabat totally nailed the "Saiyan prince will not fall again" line.

I have to disagree, though. Sabat did well, but I thought Drummond totally hit it better.

On another note, I have to say, I love the Ocean voice for "Super Buu" heaps more than FUNi's in-house guy.

Captain Awesome wrote:I think David Kaye could have done a great Freeza, He's got a great vocal range, and it would have been neat to see his take on the "sophisticated" and haughty side to Freeza.

I honestly think Corey Burton would have made a great Freeza. He can convey that proper calm voice so well.

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:11 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:I actually like Schemmel, his SSJ3 transformation scene is one of my favorites, but my all time favorite Goku is and always will be Ian Corlett, he even says kaioken right.

That was Peter Kelamis, actually.

Corlett said "Kay-oh-ken".

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:13 pm